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USS Ronald Reagan joining the USS Carl Vinson off the Korean Coast, it looks like go time! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59113928  United States08/04/2017 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52154903 United States08/04/2017 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are WAY too early!! 2 carriers aren't enough firepower to go after NK's hardened bunkers. Each may have 65-80 planes but once you subtract out those needed to protect the carrier, the refuelers, the early warning picket planes, and the assorted supply planes the number of combat planes available for attacking targets on each carrier is probably less than 30 per carrier, could be as low as 20. Minimum of 4 carriers ... and the military would like it to be 8. Also we haven't done a large movement of ground based planes into that region yet. Going into both Golf Wars we moved HUNDREDS of planes into the region. You are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of firepower needed to try to neutralize 6,000-10,000 pieces of artillery aimed at South Korea within a 6 to 10 hours window and keep the 1/2 of Seoul that is within range of those guns from being destroyed. Even 200 planes aren't enough to do the job. |
luke sc  User ID: 2630534 United States08/05/2017 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes... that is why the US ban on citizens going to NK does NOT take effect until Sept 1 ... and Trump left for a 17 day vacation today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52154903 You are WAY too early!! 2 carriers aren't enough firepower to go after NK's hardened bunkers. Each may have 65-80 planes but once you subtract out those needed to protect the carrier, the refuelers, the early warning picket planes, and the assorted supply planes the number of combat planes available for attacking targets on each carrier is probably less than 30 per carrier, could be as low as 20. Minimum of 4 carriers ... and the military would like it to be 8. Also we haven't done a large movement of ground based planes into that region yet. Going into both Golf Wars we moved HUNDREDS of planes into the region. You are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of firepower needed to try to neutralize 6,000-10,000 pieces of artillery aimed at South Korea within a 6 to 10 hours window and keep the 1/2 of Seoul that is within range of those guns from being destroyed. Even 200 planes aren't enough to do the job. so basically it has to happen this year or never ? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75335422  Romania08/05/2017 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes... that is why the US ban on citizens going to NK does NOT take effect until Sept 1 ... and Trump left for a 17 day vacation today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52154903 You are WAY too early!! 2 carriers aren't enough firepower to go after NK's hardened bunkers. Each may have 65-80 planes but once you subtract out those needed to protect the carrier, the refuelers, the early warning picket planes, and the assorted supply planes the number of combat planes available for attacking targets on each carrier is probably less than 30 per carrier, could be as low as 20. Minimum of 4 carriers ... and the military would like it to be 8. Also we haven't done a large movement of ground based planes into that region yet. Going into both Golf Wars we moved HUNDREDS of planes into the region. You are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of firepower needed to try to neutralize 6,000-10,000 pieces of artillery aimed at South Korea within a 6 to 10 hours window and keep the 1/2 of Seoul that is within range of those guns from being destroyed. Even 200 planes aren't enough to do the job.  The war against Iraq, in the desert, was a piece of cake compared to a war in Korea. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75335422 Romania08/05/2017 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes... that is why the US ban on citizens going to NK does NOT take effect until Sept 1 ... and Trump left for a 17 day vacation today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52154903 You are WAY too early!! 2 carriers aren't enough firepower to go after NK's hardened bunkers. Each may have 65-80 planes but once you subtract out those needed to protect the carrier, the refuelers, the early warning picket planes, and the assorted supply planes the number of combat planes available for attacking targets on each carrier is probably less than 30 per carrier, could be as low as 20. Minimum of 4 carriers ... and the military would like it to be 8. Also we haven't done a large movement of ground based planes into that region yet. Going into both Golf Wars we moved HUNDREDS of planes into the region. You are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of firepower needed to try to neutralize 6,000-10,000 pieces of artillery aimed at South Korea within a 6 to 10 hours window and keep the 1/2 of Seoul that is within range of those guns from being destroyed. Even 200 planes aren't enough to do the job. so basically it has to happen this year or never ? US can cripple NK, but can't conquer it and the price will be huge for both SK and Japan. |
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| Big Duke6 User ID: 75245305  Canada08/05/2017 11:55 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | two carriers can put close to 200 fixed wing attack aircraft in the sky over NK, and that's not even counting the bombers that take off from the Marshall Islands I believe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59113928 Guam, Japan, S. Korea (next best to some lol), all of Japan, S. Korea's air assets, and the stuff that stages from that Indian Sea base and Louisiana. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74859792 United States08/05/2017 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.japantimes.co.jp] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59113928 U.S. may deploy two carriers to Korean Peninsula KYODO AUG 3, 2017 ARTICLE HISTORY PRINT SHARE SEOUL – The United States is considering deployment of two aircraft carriers in waters around the Korean Peninsula by mid-August in response to North Korea’s latest provocations, South Korean media reported Wednesday. Yonhap News Agency quoted an unidentified South Korean government official as saying the nuclear-powered carriers considered for deployment are the Ronald Reagan and Carl Vinson. They were similarly deployed in the Sea of Japan between May and June amid heightened tensions following North Korean ballistic missile tests. According to Yonhap’s report, Washington and Seoul had earlier considered deploying the carriers around the time of the start of the “Ulchi Freedom Guardian,” an annual joint military exercise scheduled to begin on Aug. 21. But they are now thinking of moving forward the deployment schedule, considering North Korea’s two tests last month of an intercontinental ballistic missiles and the possibility it make carry out its sixth nuclear test sometime soon, the report says. South Korean broadcaster KBS quoted a government official as saying North Korea could take issue with the combined exercise by staging another provocation then. The official said it is unusual for U.S. strategic assets to be deployed for the Ulchi-Freedom Guardian as it is a command post exercise, mostly involving computer simulations. wow I was waiting to hear this we are sure ? :44rrrfff: |
| Big Duke6 User ID: 75245305 Canada08/05/2017 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes... that is why the US ban on citizens going to NK does NOT take effect until Sept 1 ... and Trump left for a 17 day vacation today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52154903 You are WAY too early!! 2 carriers aren't enough firepower to go after NK's hardened bunkers. Each may have 65-80 planes but once you subtract out those needed to protect the carrier, the refuelers, the early warning picket planes, and the assorted supply planes the number of combat planes available for attacking targets on each carrier is probably less than 30 per carrier, could be as low as 20. Minimum of 4 carriers ... and the military would like it to be 8. Also we haven't done a large movement of ground based planes into that region yet. Going into both Golf Wars we moved HUNDREDS of planes into the region. You are SEVERELY underestimating the amount of firepower needed to try to neutralize 6,000-10,000 pieces of artillery aimed at South Korea within a 6 to 10 hours window and keep the 1/2 of Seoul that is within range of those guns from being destroyed. Even 200 planes aren't enough to do the job. so basically it has to happen this year or never ?jj US can cripple NK, but can't conquer it and the price will be huge for both SK and Japan. Just need to weaken the snake ...the people of north korea, with their rakes, hoes and pitch forks will know what to do. |
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