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ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.

 
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ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
Are they retarded or just plain treasonous?

The Constitution is for AMERICA AND AMERICANS, so how the hell can it apply to NON-AMERICANS who shouldn't even be here????
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I keep throwing my styrofoam brick at the T.V. every time these loons say this!!!
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Anyone who says illegals have Constitutional rights is, ipso facto, working for the complete dismantling of the notion of citizenship,and thus the concept of the nation-state and the end of America, and needs to be arrested as a NWO TRAITOR!
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Take names, and keep your notes.
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THIS IS CLEARLY TREASON.

Any federal (or other judge) supporting such a ludicrous idea needs to be arrested, posthaste.
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HEY...Can I at least get an "amen" here??
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HEY...Can I at least get an "amen" here??
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I'm an atheist but I'll give you an AMEN
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wth!?!
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they got the right to GTFO.

may all DC politicians hang for treason after a proper trial.
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they got the right to GTFO.

may all DC politicians hang for treason after a proper trial.
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My sentiments, exactly.
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
You're completely wrong, of course. James Madison said: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory." But it was really settled long before in the late 19th century cases of Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) and Wong Win v. United States (1896).

[link to thehill.com]
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
Are they retarded or just plain treasonous?

The Constitution is for AMERICA AND AMERICANS, so how the hell can it apply to NON-AMERICANS who shouldn't even be here????
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the deliberate corruption of OUR 14th A
brought us to this point
and the contrast BETWEEN THEIR RIGHTS AND OUR RIGHTS
REMAINS GROUNDS FOR REVOLUTION
in my humble OPINION.

WHEN YOU understand THEY have enhanced rights, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS,you will get the justified rage.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS.
they DO.
YOU HAVE NO ADVOCACY GROUPS COMPLETE WITH A STABLE OF LAWYERS
they DO
on and on it goes and where it stops,
we sure as hell know.
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uuuh Montysano-
madison was NOT clarifying a position DEALING WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS.

THIS DELIBERATE CORRUPTION of the 14th came about recently LEADING TO FULL WELFARE entitlements etc.

as they already BROKE existing and established federal law,
they are entitled to NOTHING BEYOND A HEARING AND DEPORTATION.
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You're completely wrong, of course. James Madison said: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory." But it was really settled long before in the late 19th century cases of Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) and Wong Win v. United States (1896).

[link to thehill.com]
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Listen, Monsanto, you traitorous piece of trash. You took Jefferson's quote completely out of context. AND...no liberal court can over-rule either the Constitution, Common Law or common sense. A Constitution is put in place FOR A COUNTRY AND ITS OWN CITIZENS. Only a total moron would argue it applies to non-citizens.

You left out the first half of Jefferson's quote, and you did so to INTENTIONALLY DECEIVE. He said..."Aliens are no more parties to the laws than they are parties to the Constitution; yet it will not be disputed that...(and the append your quote, BUT LEAVE BACK OUT THE BOGUS WORDS YOU ADDED.) Clearly, he is saying they are NOT covered by the Constitution, but should be treated humanely...but you already knew that.

Zadvydas v. Davis is also widely recognized by Constitutional lawyers as being a gross overstep, and they will soon be over-ruled now that a saner court is in session:

"The dissenters also noted that the dangerousness of the alien and the risks he or she poses to society “do not diminish just because the alien cannot be deported within some foreseeable time.”21 Clearly, the dangerousness of an alien and the decision about whether to release him or her is a political question — a question that should be left up to politically accountable actors who can be taken to task for making a faulty decision. By creating an arbitrary deadline for release, the ruling in Zadvydas arguably eliminates the type of accountability that can be corrected through elections: If a dangerous alien is released as a result of Zadvydas, executive branch officers can shrug their shoulders and point to the judiciary’s demands, while lower court judges can shrug their shoulders noting that they have to abide by the Supreme Court’s ruling."

You and your kind are on a very slippery slope, Monsanto. If you people keep paying more attention (and more political capital) to non-Americans than you do Americans, you and your kind will be finished off... politically, if not worse.

Enough is enough, and the vast majority of Americans know it. You are stretching their good will to the breaking point, and it won't be pretty when/if it breaks.
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
You're completely wrong, of course. James Madison said: "that as they [aliens], owe, on the one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled, in return, to their [constitutional] protection and advantage."

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory." But it was really settled long before in the late 19th century cases of Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) and Wong Win v. United States (1896).

[link to thehill.com]
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Listen, Monsanto, you traitorous piece of trash. You took Jefferson's quote completely out of context. AND...no liberal court can over-rule either the Constitution, Common Law or common sense. A Constitution is put in place FOR A COUNTRY AND ITS OWN CITIZENS. Only a total moron would argue it applies to non-citizens.

You left out the first half of Jefferson's quote, and you did so to INTENTIONALLY DECEIVE. He said..."Aliens are no more parties to the laws than they are parties to the Constitution; yet it will not be disputed that...(and the append your quote, BUT LEAVE BACK OUT THE BOGUS WORDS YOU ADDED.) Clearly, he is saying they are NOT covered by the Constitution, but should be treated humanely...but you already knew that.

Zadvydas v. Davis is also widely recognized by Constitutional lawyers as being a gross overstep, and they will soon be over-ruled now that a saner court is in session:

"The dissenters also noted that the dangerousness of the alien and the risks he or she poses to society “do not diminish just because the alien cannot be deported within some foreseeable time.”21 Clearly, the dangerousness of an alien and the decision about whether to release him or her is a political question — a question that should be left up to politically accountable actors who can be taken to task for making a faulty decision. By creating an arbitrary deadline for release, the ruling in Zadvydas arguably eliminates the type of accountability that can be corrected through elections: If a dangerous alien is released as a result of Zadvydas, executive branch officers can shrug their shoulders and point to the judiciary’s demands, while lower court judges can shrug their shoulders noting that they have to abide by the Supreme Court’s ruling."

You and your kind are on a very slippery slope, Monsanto. If you people keep paying more attention (and more political capital) to non-Americans than you do Americans, you and your kind will be finished off... politically, if not worse.

Enough is enough, and the vast majority of Americans know it. You are stretching their good will to the breaking point, and it won't be pretty when/if it breaks.
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*Madison*
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Are they retarded or just plain treasonous?

The Constitution is for AMERICA AND AMERICANS, so how the hell can it apply to NON-AMERICANS who shouldn't even be here????
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the deliberate corruption of OUR 14th A
brought us to this point
and the contrast BETWEEN THEIR RIGHTS AND OUR RIGHTS
REMAINS GROUNDS FOR REVOLUTION
in my humble OPINION.

WHEN YOU understand THEY have enhanced rights, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS,you will get the justified rage.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS.
they DO.
YOU HAVE NO ADVOCACY GROUPS COMPLETE WITH A STABLE OF LAWYERS
they DO
on and on it goes and where it stops,
we sure as hell know.
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I couldn't agree more. YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

Time for the RESTORATION. Actually, well past time.
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.

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They do not for a good and important reason.
We see today's immigrant invasions that came following the more subtle and useful to some invasion by a lesser threatening species.
With that blind eyed turn of the corrupt ones to the lesser invader came also to future destructive, lethal and toxic ones.
Gotta get them in there one way or another, so play like you are a sleep at the wheel, was the very way these set for that very exploitation, one to turn into the downfall of the nation they carried it out in.
When one greedy and corrupt idiot served their selves off the illegal immigrant trough in time the one who is malicious takes over what they established and it becomes their weapon against that nation the prior fool was in and over.
There has been a hijacking of what long ago was allowed to remain.
These new hijacking ones are full fledged enemies unto that nation it is being carried out on and have merged with even worse the enemy within who watched the successful damage the fool effects caused and it was like a drop of blood to the tongue of a hog for that one.
Bad brew, bad breed.
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I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.
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You are so very wrong. But then people who try to alter history always are. You are embarrassing yourself.
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I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.
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As soon as they land on US soil via illegal means, they are criminals and should be treated as such.

The constitution allows them a fair trial, but they are still criminals and should not just be allowed to leech welfare and push out babies - they should be sent back and told to come through the LEGAL channels!
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Are they retarded or just plain treasonous?

The Constitution is for AMERICA AND AMERICANS, so how the hell can it apply to NON-AMERICANS who shouldn't even be here????
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Animals defend their territory aggressively and mindlessly against other tribes of the same animal.

Clearly our simian roots are not so far away.

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I keep throwing my styrofoam brick at the T.V. every time these loons say this!!!
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I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.
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You are so very wrong. But then people who try to alter history always are. You are embarrassing yourself.
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I'm embarrassing myself by quoting three examples of SCOTUS cases that speak directly to this issue. Got it.

Personally, I blame those treasonous cuck/libtard Founders.
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.
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You are so very wrong. But then people who try to alter history always are. You are embarrassing yourself.
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Bravo!

Liberals have absolutely nothing to stand on when they claim criminal non-Americans have some right to Constitutional protections. They have ONE right...the right to go to prison and be treated humanely until deported.

We will soon be adding other "rights" for multiple offenders, like the right to be executed.

Any moran knows you do not have a right to any country's laws and citizens' protections if you sneak in illegally and are a NON-CITIZEN! This has been true since the Greek city-states, and confirmed under Roman Law, and the laws of every civilized society ever since. You can not have national sovereignty at all if non-citizens can invade, without pause, and "out vote" the citizens. Liberals know this, and that is why they are promoting illegal immigration AND ILLEGAL VOTING so vociferously!

They truly are a treasonous Fifth Column and need to be rooted out, soul and branch.
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Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.
I understand how badly you want this to be true, but it's just not. The 19th century Supreme Court cases spoke directly to this issue. Madison's statement is clear: if you're on this soil, you have basic constitutional protections. This is just settled law/history.

ETA: but thanks for the veiled threat of physical harm.
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You are so very wrong. But then people who try to alter history always are. You are embarrassing yourself.
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I'm embarrassing myself by quoting three examples of SCOTUS cases that speak directly to this issue. Got it.

Personally, I blame those treasonous cuck/libtard Founders.
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Liberal/left/Marxist/globalist lawyers would be proud of your twisted logic.

Patriots aren't fooled.
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They keep saying it over and over as it is an accepted technique of radicals and tyrants.

If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
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Saul Alinsky's rules of power tactics.....
The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

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Yes, they have human rights, meaning we shouldn't kill them or torture them if they come here, but otherwise they need to be taken back HOME.
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Thanks for the pine, whoever needs thanking...
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Yes, they have human rights, meaning we shouldn't kill them or torture them if they come here, but otherwise they need to be taken back HOME.
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THIS ^ ^ ^

That is what Madison was talking about.
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They keep saying it over and over as it is an accepted technique of radicals and tyrants.

If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
Joseph Goebbels

Saul Alinsky's rules of power tactics.....
The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.
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BINGO!

Excellent.





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