ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!! I can't believe how many lefty whiners keep saying they do.

LOL. Well put!

I was dismissed from jury duty because I asked if the defendant was a legal resident. I told them I didn't feel that the system was to be used for non residents.

our founding fathers at least a good portion of them were immigrants also, i often wonder what they would say in response to these veiws my freind,???? i doubt you would be convincing them of anything other than the fact that your not awake to the fact , that we are still human we all all share this planet together and i doubt their are any walls or fences around gods house. so why should we waste our time and money doing that ??? what are you afraid of ??? people who are hurting , people woman children who are starving and being murderd , try some compassion my freind , god bless you who ever you are he is a loving mercifull god not, and i repeat , a NOT A VINDICTIVE JUDGMENTAL GOD.

Anyone and everyone with their feet on US soil is protected and covered by the US Constitution.
That is why GITMO was and is so valuable because it is NOT US soil.
Same goes for the Black prison sites that the US ran in countries like Poland before they were closed.

If your feet are on US soil, the US Constitution applies to YOU.

OP you are 100% wrong, legally and morally.

You're free to believe that the SCOTUS rulings are incorrect, but at this moment they exist and are settled law.

BTW, I'm not arguing that illegal aliens should get welfare or vote. They shouldn't. But OP's original post that they "HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!" is simply incorrect.

Saul, it ain't going to work.

You can keep repeating that a Constitution written for the citizen's of a country applies to illegal invaders, but no one but your twisted liberal traitors in the Democrat (and RINO) Parties are going to buy that crap. You and Maxine Waters and the other loons in the Democrat Party are sealing their fate, daily.

WE KNOW THE AGENDA IS TO SWAMP AMERICANS WITH FOREIGNERS WHO HAVE NO APPRECIATION OR UNDERSTANDING OF OUR INSTITUTIONS AND LAWS, SO THAT AMERICA CAN BE DESTROYED AND ROLLED INTO YOUR DREAM OF A TOTALITARIAN WORLD GOVERNMENT.

The 14th covers slaves, you fucking idiot, not illegal aliens.

I think they should have some implied rights, but never all - as they not legal citizen.

They should never have a right as a matter of fact on any social services, SSN, should only have a right for a ALJ review on deportation. Phony miranda rights should be applicable to them, some religious rights, etc.

Not deportation, not SSN, not education, not welfare, etc.

This isn't about Beast or some Satanic animal instinct thing.


Seriously the comments.


For some of us they could happily live in a world without borders, with national governments and international governments, but there would have to be some changes:


1. All fundamental elements in religion and all criminal elements, such as murder, rape of children, burka's, stoning, etc, all forms of Theocracy, sharia, and any other religious governance, including the fundamental and religious Hebrew laws, all the harsh things would have to be made illegal, fined, not allowed to collect followers.

So religions would have to be divorced from politics and from courts and old testament and primitive dark age stuff removed.


2. You'd have to tackle fascist governments, communism, dictatorships, and all mafia run, or criminal run pseudo banana democracies.


3. You'd have to have a high standard of living for all, and take out high clean technology, so it would have to be more akin to Venus Project, and lots of schooling and training and retraining for people who want to develop other lines of part time work.


4. Health Care, not US style all, Norway style, the best in the world, Dental, good programs.







In a world like this, you wouldn't need official borders of any kind.

All radicals would be locked up and the migrations or globe trotters, different races moving around, would only be minimum.

Some may want to come way up north, but not likely too many.

Alot of us may want to be in warmer climates.


In fact people may move around seasonally a bit or see the world.

But, it wouldn't be like this.




This is about protecting our Constitutions and Higher Mind laws, and not having our countries, basically our homes, stolen by people.

This is about ensuring We have decent nations to pass on to our children.

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The SCOTUS rulings are not only not "correct" in the sense you mean them (because you are misapplying even the intent of these errant rulings) but they are ipso facto null and void. No ruling (like the so-called "individual mandate" in Obamacare) can clearly violate the Constitution, if the people KNOW THEIR RIGHTS and decline to accept such woefully self-evident violations of the Constitution. We just haven't impeached the traitors yet...

AGAIN...these "rights" that libtards want to assign to illegal foreigners are NOT THEIR RIGHTS, BUT OURS. We have a right to treat them with compassion and due process, and we have a right not to have a South American police state that would treat foreigners with absolute abandon..i.e. shooting them on sight. Even that may change though, if the libtards keep trying to swamp us with people who hate us and our institutions. TO REPEAT, rights that libtards seek to assign to non-citizens, are not theirs, but Americans' and America's.

They seem to be confusing constitutional rights with human rights.

Public schools ought to be teaching the difference.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is a constitutional right that isn't respected as a principle by every nation, but it should be considered a human right and a general principle of natural law.

I would object if we didn't accord that "right" to everyone, including illegal aliens.

But of course, other constitutional rights like the right to vote clearly don't belong to illegal aliens.

I don't care how many VPN's you have to use but Get my flag off your name! You don't deserve to fly it. You traitor!

1) You suck as a legal analyst
2) Your interpretation of SCOTUS findings sucks
3) SCOTUS often fails to find correctly on original intent
4) You suck as a human being

It has been fully litigated all the way to the Supreme Court.
That you don't like it is immaterial.

FYI Libtards,

Even SCOTUS rulings can not violate the clear original intent. PERIOD.

Tick. Tick.

The old libtards on the court are getting older.....

There is no interpretation of Supreme Court rulings.
They are the final verdict and they are law.

Lots of good sense here.

We CHOOSE to assign some limited CRIMINAL PROCEDURE to illegals, but they are not GUARANTEED TO THEM BY OUR CONSTITUTION.

That you misapply rulings and twist meanings is also immaterial.

LEGAL PRECEDENT CAN NEVER TRUMP THE CONSTITUTION even if a thousand liberal judges say so.

maybe they desire an influx of third worlders into the first world because they want it to act as a catalyst, for the next stage in our social evolution.
Will there be blood? I sincerely hope not. but since this is the real world, real people will die. But let's just hope we can all see it throu without ww3 breaking out.
ww3 would mean the end of our hopes for reaching the stars. for plenty of generations anyway. maybe its already happened before here, and on Mars

I mean think about it. socially speaking, we've been stagnant for almost 6000 years. our social values haven't evolved much . we're still more likely to be dicks to other humans instead of being helpful, living in harmony etc.
The upcoming end of the world as we know it events will involve bloodshed and death, maybe in millions.
but
the next generations will have a much more evolved social awareness. and maybe we can grow up, as a species . I hope.

and as has been mentioned before, the us itself was originally a British colony who took over the land from the native Americans . lol.
it's just land . and they're just people. some bad, some good, mostly dumb

They only have 1 constitutional right and that is the right to .......

life is already too short, and sadly, all too cheap these days. Put aside your differences. We're all part of the human family. yes some relatives are terrorists, and yes they should be stopped . their kids should be given to cps and they can be raised with our more evolved American values, whatever you consider them to be.

i was considering immigrating to America, but since I'm a Pakistani, my chances of getting a visa are nil, with the current political environment being what it is. i was a Trump supporter btw, but I can understand why it wouldn't make sense for me try to live in some small rural town in the Us.
i had high hopes for moving and settling in some European country as well. but now those countries are being overrun with the same jerks I deal with in my own country.
programmed humans are everywhere.
i guess i could try for any kind of job in the Caribbean, or someplace else tropical and near an ocean. just as long as I finally leave this country for any greener pastures

I don't know why it shows the US as my country. it should show Pakistan

Yeah get this ...they are a PROTECTED CLASS OF PEOPLE. which means discrimination is very easy to lrove civilly. However a Homeless USA citizen is. Not a civilly protected class of people. Yes they have a stable of lawyers willing and ready to seek gold.

They are not illegal immigrants.

They are illegal Aliens!

Do not get brainwashed op.

I agree they have no rights except they can legally vote under current laws.

they do have rights, the right to be deported and their Country of origin should be made to reimburse us the tax payers. my opinions on this matter