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North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide

 
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North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide

12.08.2017 Author: Seth Ferris

North Korea has become the latest country to be threatened by an assumption. Following its declaration that it will bomb the waters near Guam with missiles which will be “ready within days”, the US has responded by saying that “going to war with America is suicide” Where have we head this threat before?

If you ask most people anywhere if they would rather live in America or North Korea, you know what the clear answer will be. We also want to believe that the things we want are stronger than the things we don’t. We know that the US is the one remaining major superpower, at least in its ability to bring about destruction of the world as we know it. Moreover, it has a vast network of allies around the globe, some very well resourced. Thus, we all assume, because we want to, that if you take on the US you will lose hands down.

Wag the Dog

Perhaps you could tell that to Bashar al-Assad. Or to those who remember Ho Chi Minh, or the Ayatollah Khomeini. The US is threatening strikes against North Korea precisely because it wants to avoid getting involved in long drawn out wars, as it has in Syria and many other places. It wants to avoid such wars because it can’t win them. If this keeps happening, people will start to think that the US isn’t the power it thinks it is, and start looking around for other friends, even those whose values they don’t like.

North Korea, on the other hand, has nothing to lose. It is often remarked that Kim Jong-un has allegdly assassinated or jailed most of the people who surrounded him when he first became leader. If it’s true, one can describe it as an act of necessity: people who have been in government for a time always think they know more about it than newcomers, and in a non-democratic state the only resource either side must get their way by direct action.

North Korea has survived against all reality for a very long time. Now the US is becoming increasingly like North Korea, it understands the threat it poses. Once the DPRK had ideological friends who could bankroll it, but now the world has moved on. Sooner or later it will be targeted simply because it is an anomaly, even if it gives up its weapons.

North Korea exists as the reflection of the Kim dynasty. It is incapable of being pluralist even if it wants to, as the entire state mechanism relies on unchanging central control and unchanging policy. If the dynasty goes, the country collapses. What would you do in his place: sit back and watch your demise justDoing one on latest NK developments. happen, being remembered as a wimpish charlatan, or go out in a blaze of glory, your country destroyed by the enemy, your people determined to unite behind your memory, and the good you have done, to right this wrong?

Taking on a superpower and losing will guarantee the Kim family the mythological status they have long sought and projected to their population. Taking on a superpower and winning, even in part, will ensure their ongoing control of the country and regain them public and institutional trust. So who is committing suicide by entering into this conflict: North Korea or the United States?

Losers and losers

If Kim Jong-un was likely to listen to US threats we would not have got to this point. To maintain Kim family control, he has to believe in the eventual triumph of his system and his power to defeat all enemies. He has to genuinely believe that he can destroy America with ICBMs, and be prepared to show the world that this is so.

The North Korean people have to believe in their country too. Unlike Kim, they can’t change anything if it isn’t working. It was widely believed in the West that Soviet Communism would never fall because the system was so tightly controlled, just like North Korea. Those who were part of that system knew in their hearts that it was not working, and not desirable, but could do nothing about it until the leaders themselves recognised the fact. They had to believe in their country to go about their everyday lives, and no matter how much power he nominally has, Kim has to keep things the same way.

The threat to strike Guam suggests that North Korea doesn’t yet have weapons which can reach Alaska, as previously claimed. But can anyone really be sure? His tests are a fact of life, and so are a number of weapons identified by monitoring devices.

If Kim possesses such weapons he is not going to give the enemy all the details, or allow their locations to be revealed. If North Korea can and does strike Guam, destroying US military facilities in the process, he will send a country down a road his people have to trust will lead them to victory. Even if the US strikes back, the images of burning planes and fleeing soldiers will convince any doubters that North Korea means what it says and is telling the truth – and at this point, this is the most powerful message it could send.

North Koreans are used to trusting in their leaders, and are obliged to idolise them, whatever their private feelings. But do Americans trust in, or idolise, Donald Trump? Do they believe what he says, or take much notice of it? In an actual conflict, who will suffer the most from any comparison: the evil dictator who is showing he can do what he said, or the man who has built his life on con and bluster?

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The target is not N Korea. Trump's target is China. Read bullshit neo con journals and you get bullshit neo con propaganda.

Listen to some Steve Pieczenik.
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TG;DR
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Re: North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
True. He's gonna kill a lot of people, but he totally loses endgame.
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Re: North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
Trump has good generals in charge advising him./


Personally I think trump should do nothing until

North Korea blows California and Washington off the map

but that is just my personal opinion
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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What a load of crap.

OP stop it
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Re: North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
Trump has good generals in charge advising him./


Personally I think trump should do nothing until

North Korea blows California and Washington off the map

but that is just my personal opinion
 Quoting: jake


hesright
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Re: North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
Fake drama.

Trump is a tare.

His generals are tares.

Do you know about the wheat and the tares?
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Re: North Korea Nuclear Standoff: Trump is the One Committing Suicide
Trump has good generals in charge advising him./


Personally I think trump should do nothing until

North Korea blows California and Washington off the map

but that is just my personal opinion
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Perhaps Trump should say "oh no, please do not nuke California." And once lil kim does it he says "okay, that one is on me, but I bet you will not strike Washington!"

Everybody wins.





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