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Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study
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Jesus Christ is our Savior "To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord..." [2 Pet.1,2] Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture Jehovah God is The I AM "And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” [Exod.3:14]
Jesus Christ is The I AM "Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” [John 8:58] Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture
God the Father can NOT show his face to ANY human. Exodus 33... 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.And Jesus comment about "I am" is merely stating the He existed BEFORE Abraham.Jesus Christ is Lord of lords "These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords..." [Rev.17:14] Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture
How can God the Father Himself be the Lamb, when it's clear in Revelation 4 that the Father is sitting on the throne?
The Lamb is Jesus, not the Father!Although all these passages reveal to us that Jesus Christ and Jehovah are One and the same Divine Person there are other passages that make a distintion between them. It's important to remember that Jesus changed between His birth and His resurrection. During His life on earth Jesus was tempted. And because He wasn't yet glorified, He had to enter into His glory by degrees. He also "increased in wisdom and stature." [Luke 2:52]
Before the resurrection, the union of Jehovah and Jesus was not yet complete, this is why Jesus said, "I am going to My Father, for My Father is greater than I." [John 14:28; 16:16] Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture
Jesus states in J17 that He had glory previously.John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.It was only after this work was finished that He could say, "All power has been given to Me in heaven and earth." [Matthew 28:18] It was not until then that He was completely and fully God. Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture The passages that make a disinction between the Father and Son don't describe a relationship that exists between two Persons. It's the kind of relationship that exists between soul and body. This is why the Lord said "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works." [John 14:10]
John said, "No one has seen God at any time. The only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has revealed Him." [John 1:18] The Divine Soul is invisible [like a human soul]. "You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form." [John 5:37; 6:46] Quoting: JJASO2017Rapture 22:69 Hereafter* shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.Acts 7...55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.The Father wouldn't sit at His own right hand. It's clear that Jesus sits on the right hand side of the Father. This makes Jesus a separate being from the Father.
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