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So, if US ships can be disabled completely then everyone and their auntie knows.
I guess the thing about publically saying that this in an act of war carries with it too many problems....and of course from then on the public would expect a response.....
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NOT just ships, anything electrical
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Khibiny or Magrav technology--same on the disabled USS Cook.
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
Sounds like "Someone" has the ability to render The US Navy Totally Helpless whenever they want and plow a boat into any vessel they choose to neutralize.

The implications are terrifying for Naval Warfare.

What if it works on planes too?
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That has already been experimented with a long time ago
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maybe we should just surrender now
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I found out about this technology about 3 years ago, before the USS Donald Cook fiasco. The Russians had it at that time because they sponsored and then paid for it from the inventor. I have no knowledge about Chinese involvement in this, but obviously they now have it too. Both the Fitzgerald and this ship were victims of advanced electromagnetic tech. When I first discovered it, it was then advertised as capable of stopping a Thermonuclear ICBM, causing it to be "inert!" Supposedly, it was available to the US then as well as China. Back then it was reported that both refused to buy on to it. The origin was an Iranian scientist. By the way, not only was the USS Donald Cook stopped dead in the water in the Black Sea in 2005, but the same US Naval ship was also stopped dead in Feb 2016 in the Baltic sea. During that encounter the media reported that a Russian aircraft buzzed the ship and the Media asked why the Navy didn't shoot it down. The reply was that the plane was presenting no threat, just flying low sending a signal. They NEVER reported or admitted that once again the Cook was "dead in the water" which one could easily see on Media video. When they panned across the stern while following the aircraft there was NO WAKE! The Cook was obviously not moving and therefore was likely incapable of defending itself or firing on the Russia A/C. My concern is not that Russia and maybe China have this tech, but why did the US allow TWO SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS ON THE USS COOK AND NOW ON TWO MORE DESTROYERS OF THE SAME CLASS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GLOBE! INSANE! If I could find out about this new tech, anybody could. Oh! maybe not the Navy!
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
Sounds like "Someone" has the ability to render The US Navy Totally Helpless whenever they want and plow a boat into any vessel they choose to neutralize.

The implications are terrifying for Naval Warfare.

What if it works on planes too?
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That has already been experimented with a long time ago
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maybe we should just surrender now
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The big question is to whom? To Kim, Xi or Putin?
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if we surrender to Putin we get to see how Putin deals with fake news and antifa

of course women will just want to see him with shirt off
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payback?

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Russian intel vessel sunk after collision with livestock vessel
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I smell a rat
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This is war. Secret war with China. Somehow, they have the tech to scramble or disarm the electronics on a Navy ship. Same thing happened to the Fitzgerald. This is war with China folks, nothing less.
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Somehow? They probably built and installed all the chips!!
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Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson is expected to order a rare operational pause across the entire US Navy, a US defense official told CNN.
CNN has obtained an advance copy of a statement expected to be released by Richardson Monday, in which he says: "I have directed fleet commanders to immediately conduct an operational pause with commands and leaders across the fleet, to ensure we are taking all appropriate immediate measures to enhance the Navy's safe and effective operation around the world."
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Cease operations and withdraw WORLDWIDE
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
Sounds like "Someone" has the ability to render The US Navy Totally Helpless whenever they want and plow a boat into any vessel they choose to neutralize.

The implications are terrifying for Naval Warfare.

What if it works on planes too?
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That has already been experimented with a long time ago
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maybe we should just surrender now
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I found out about this technology about 3 years ago, before the USS Donald Cook fiasco. The Russians had it at that time because they sponsored and then paid for it from the inventor. I have no knowledge about Chinese involvement in this, but obviously they now have it too. Both the Fitzgerald and this ship were victims of advanced electromagnetic tech. When I first discovered it, it was then advertised as capable of stopping a Thermonuclear ICBM, causing it to be "inert!" Supposedly, it was available to the US then as well as China. Back then it was reported that both refused to buy on to it. The origin was an Iranian scientist. By the way, not only was the USS Donald Cook stopped dead in the water in the Black Sea in 2005, but the same US Naval ship was also stopped dead in Feb 2016 in the Baltic sea. During that encounter the media reported that a Russian aircraft buzzed the ship and the Media asked why the Navy didn't shoot it down. The reply was that the plane was presenting no threat, just flying low sending a signal. They NEVER reported or admitted that once again the Cook was "dead in the water" which one could easily see on Media video. When they panned across the stern while following the aircraft there was NO WAKE! The Cook was obviously not moving and therefore was likely incapable of defending itself or firing on the Russia A/C. My concern is not that Russia and maybe China have this tech, but why did the US allow TWO SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS ON THE USS COOK AND NOW ON TWO MORE DESTROYERS OF THE SAME CLASS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GLOBE! INSANE! If I could find out about this new tech, anybody could. Oh! maybe not the Navy!
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Buddy, this has been used already in WW2
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They signaled the Fitzgerald for 10 minutes with no response.

They have already shit canned two commanders and several other officers over that citing negligence and failure to post watch.

And now we have the GLP fag shill team at it again misdirecting from this new case of incompetence and negligence.
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That right there (highlighted) should tell any critical thinking person the whole story.

10 minutes ? Think about that for I don't know.............a couple of seconds...............................IMHO !
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Why did they hit it then, 10 Minutes is enough not too.
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That's why this is bullshit. Also if they had visual so did we which is more than enough time to call all hands to deck manually. It is bullshit.
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
Someone asked if this Tech will work on Airplanes.

Short answer, YES!
In 2015 There was an F16 flying maneuvers over Arizona/New Mexico and it crashed. Insiders reported that they have no idea why it crashed "it just fell out of the air!".
It was speculated that some form of weapon was tested on it.

F16's are completely Electronic Fly-by-Wire- Aircraft.
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Khibiny or Magrav technology--same on the disabled the USA Cook.
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AND the Fitz.

This makes 3 (that we know of).
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Repercussions of this are horrifying. It means that our enemies can literally disarm us without firing a shot. Without Amrica (no matter how bad our government is from time to time) the world is truly doomed.
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AND THIS IS HOW IT IS BEING DONE...Obama allowed this; inventor of the technology offered to share it but OBAMA refused to hear and banned its use by the US. This is OBAMA's fault!

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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
From that pic you can tell the McCain was dead in the water. There is no shear damage from a ship under power. It was a direct hit ! The McCain would have been under full power to get out of the way of a ship that was 4 times it's size. It was also full daylight as far as I know. No shear no power. Look at where the "V" shaped part of the haul hit the war ship. Not one inch of shear.

Look at the photo:

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Maybe the Deep State has plants in the USN who are intentionally trying to embarrass Trump.

Or perhaps the USN has been Stuxnet'd.

To have two identical collisions in such a short span of time is very strange.
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payback?
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Russian intel vessel sunk after collision with livestock vessel
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I smell a rat
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More like VULTURE. Whose ships have not been affected? HEY MOE!!!

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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
From that pic you can tell the McCain was dead in the water. There is no shear damage from a ship under power. It was a direct hit ! The McCain would have been under full power to get out of the way of a ship that was 4 times it's size. It was also full daylight as far as I know. No shear no power. Look at where the "V" shaped part of the haul hit the war ship. Not one inch of shear.

Look at the photo:

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Watch the radar equipment

starts at 3.43

any ship or plan or u-boat would be detected





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I dont' know why we are even discussing military radars and secret navy stuff. I've been at sea for last 30 years, crossed Singapore straits many times, there is always visual watch on both bridge wings, any ship getting too close to your vessel is contacted at once on radio,any strange manouver is reported to Singapore Traffic, and so on...To hit a Navy ship from the side , by an oil tanker moving at 10-12 knots , that is extremely hard to imagine.
Investigation would show very clear by both ship bridge data recorders, what has actually happened( ship course, speed,etc)-except if it is too embarrassing for US Navy in this case.
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
From that pic you can tell the McCain was dead in the water. There is no shear damage from a ship under power. It was a direct hit ! The McCain would have been under full power to get out of the way of a ship that was 4 times it's size. It was also full daylight as far as I know. No shear no power. Look at where the "V" shaped part of the haul hit the war ship. Not one inch of shear.

Look at the photo:

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Watch the radar equipment

starts at 3.43

any ship or plan or u-boat would be detected





[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75418136

I dont' know why we are even discussing military radars and secret navy stuff. I've been at sea for last 30 years, crossed Singapore straits many times, there is always visual watch on both bridge wings, any ship getting too close to your vessel is contacted at once on radio,any strange manouver is reported to Singapore Traffic, and so on...To hit a Navy ship from the side , by an oil tanker moving at 10-12 knots , that is extremely hard to imagine.
Investigation would show very clear by both ship bridge data recorders, what has actually happened( ship course, speed,etc)-except if it is too embarrassing for US Navy in this case.
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It is too embarrassing for US Navy. They here watching the show.


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Even the perfect conical shape of were the bulbous front of the oil tanker went into the base of the ship shows not one inch of shear, as it is perfectly symmetrical. Look at it closely.
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Reminds me of the round hole punched into the Pentagon by an "airplane".
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
Typical of this generation to read and believe anything put out on social media or the msm.

Let me put it in terms that a child can understand, the USS Cook's radar and operating systems were not shut down by the Russian SU-24. Any article reporting it is LYING!!!!!

I knew someone on that ship during that incident who happened to be in the CIC at the time. Nothing happened, except the captain had orders to passively lock weapons onto the aircraft. As to this Khibiny radar Russia claims to have, it would need to be the size of three aircraft and still would not affect the US ship. And this so called "Khibiny," as Russia claims, is only on SU34 and Su-30. So all lies to go around.

As to the people on board claiming to resign, never happened. There were fleet transfers and rotational units as all ships have. Once again, the "27" resignations are a lie!!!!!!!

The USS Fitzgerald was incompetence from both captains. Yet, it doesn't explain why the cargo ship made 3 circle turns before the accident. If it was an accident.

I'll reserve judgement on the the USS McCain until the truth surfaces.

Unlike most of you morons on here, I use my brain and search for the truth instead of believing the crap put out by the left, rinos, and hate groups.
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A wannabe CNN reporter right there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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If you think even more the total shutdown of the ship makes sense. Why were people still in the birthing area when a ship was going to hit the destroyer ? Because the could not make an open call on the com system ?


Another question for the former navy guys here.
Are the cam systems on a ship electronic ?

Bet they are.
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Did Trump make the navy bigger and better and huger than ever before? FAIL!
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This is war. Secret war with China. Somehow, they have the tech to scramble or disarm the electronics on a Navy ship. Same thing happened to the Fitzgerald. This is war with China folks, nothing less.
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Are we sure it's China? I know we're generally opposing Russia on things and suspect Russia is helping NK. This may have been meant to cripple us before we could attack NK, and I'd suspect Russia more than China on that.
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
From that pic you can tell the McCain was dead in the water. There is no shear damage from a ship under power. It was a direct hit ! The McCain would have been under full power to get out of the way of a ship that was 4 times it's size. It was also full daylight as far as I know. No shear no power. Look at where the "V" shaped part of the haul hit the war ship. Not one inch of shear.

Look at the photo:

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Hes Right!

Unplug the navigation computers, and go manual, same has to be done for weapons systems, the most powerfull military in the world is a dead duck sitting in the water.
Must be Chinese action, im sure it will be investigated and then evidence destroyed.
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Here's a Theory.
The boat was disabled on purpose (Foreign or Domestic) when crosssing another ships route resulting in said collision.
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So, if US ships can be disabled completely then everyone and their auntie knows.
I guess the thing about publically saying that this in an act of war carries with it too many problems....and of course from then on the public would expect a response.....
 Quoting: Pedro 1775961


NOT just ships, anything electrical
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Neither ships or anything electrical, but all the military personnel!

This is from 5 years ago:

Mind-bending ‘psychotronic’ guns that can effectively turn people into zombies have been given the go-ahead by Russian president Vladimir Putin.
Mr Putin added: ‘Such high-tech weapons systems will be comparable in effect to nuclear weapons, but will be more acceptable in terms of political and military ideology.’
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During the last three months you've seen the crews of two US navy destroyers and two merchant ships being mentally manipulated to produce the collisions of their ships.
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So, if US ships can be disabled completely then everyone and their auntie knows.
I guess the thing about publically saying that this in an act of war carries with it too many problems....and of course from then on the public would expect a response.....
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NOT just ships, anything electrical
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troubling


I was in the Navy long ago - you never went to sea without the redundant power system - all Navy vessels are built with dual power or twin screws - they had one class at one time of 6 DE's that only had one shaft but still had dual power systems

:44rrrfff:

carriers have 4 to 8 shafts
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So, if US ships can be disabled completely then everyone and their auntie knows.
I guess the thing about publically saying that this in an act of war carries with it too many problems....and of course from then on the public would expect a response.....
 Quoting: Pedro 1775961


NOT just ships, anything electrical
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Neither ships or anything electrical, but all the military personnel!

This is from 5 years ago:

Mind-bending ‘psychotronic’ guns that can effectively turn people into zombies have been given the go-ahead by Russian president Vladimir Putin.
Mr Putin added: ‘Such high-tech weapons systems will be comparable in effect to nuclear weapons, but will be more acceptable in terms of political and military ideology.’
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During the last three months you've seen the crews of two US navy destroyers and two merchant ships being mentally manipulated to produce the collisions of their ships.
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lol that would be freaky
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Khibiny or Magrav technology--same on the disabled the USA Cook.
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AND the Fitz.

This makes 3 (that we know of).
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Repercussions of this are horrifying. It means that our enemies can literally disarm us without firing a shot. Without Amrica (no matter how bad our government is from time to time) the world is truly doomed.
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AND THIS IS HOW IT IS BEING DONE...Obama allowed this; inventor of the technology offered to share it but OBAMA refused to hear and banned its use by the US. This is OBAMA's fault!

A MUST WATCH video---8 minutes

[youtube] [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Obama sold us out. Time to start making room for more refugees.
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Re: The McCain was fully disabled and not moving when the merchant oil tanker hit it 100% proof !
If you think even more the total shutdown of the ship makes sense. Why were people still in the birthing area when a ship was going to hit the destroyer ? Because the could not make an open call on the com system ?


Another question for the former navy guys here.
Are the cam systems on a ship electronic ?

Bet they are.
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simple defense, install oars on all navy ships

if Russian shut electronics down they can row their way out of danger
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Did Trump make the navy bigger and better and huger than ever before? FAIL!
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right in 6 months

it takes 10 years total to build a major vessel





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