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Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17

 
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Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
On the move are the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 20th Army, the 6th Army, the 11th Army Corp in Kaliningrad, the Belarus Army and most of the VDV airborne.

That's 2 tank divisions, 3 motorized divisions, 3 airborne divisions and 13 brigades. About 130,000 combat troops with 1,500 tanks and 70,000 support troops.
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09/01/2017 05:22 AM
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These are heavy strike formations, intended for deep offensive operations. They are also just the first echelon forces. Follow-on formations would then move in from the Urals.

I'm not saying that Russia is planning to go on the attack. But they are clearly rehearsing an invasion of NATO border states.
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09/01/2017 05:38 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
This is all bound for the Western Strategic Direction. They could easily roll over the Baltics and penetrate Poland as far as the Vistula, possibly besieging Warsaw and Gdansk. If it actually comes to war, there will be other theaters of course.

The 8th Guards Army, the 58th Army, the 22nd Army Corp in Crimea and the DNR Corp and LNR Corp are all still available in the Southern Direction. They could sweep over southern Ukraine and threaten Romania.

The 2nd Guards Army, the 41st Army and the 5 western heavy divisions of the National Guard constitute the strategic reserve and possible occupation forces.

All up I estimate Russia can commit about 500,000 men to a war against NATO.
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09/01/2017 05:47 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
On the move are the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 20th Army, the 6th Army, the 11th Army Corp in Kaliningrad, the Belarus Army and most of the VDV airborne.

That's 2 tank divisions, 3 motorized divisions, 3 airborne divisions and 13 brigades. About 130,000 combat troops with 1,500 tanks and 70,000 support troops.
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Wee bit dramatic. Just war games.

Just like NATO does. Just like America does with every other nation.

Relax. It's going to be okay.
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
On the move are the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 20th Army, the 6th Army, the 11th Army Corp in Kaliningrad, the Belarus Army and most of the VDV airborne.

That's 2 tank divisions, 3 motorized divisions, 3 airborne divisions and 13 brigades. About 130,000 combat troops with 1,500 tanks and 70,000 support troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75407393


Wee bit dramatic. Just war games.

Just like NATO does. Just like America does with every other nation.

Relax. It's going to be okay.
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It's 10x the size of any NATO war game over the last 25 years.
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09/01/2017 09:23 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
I could add that each of those Army groups has an Iskander brigade attached, and they will certainly have a role in Zapad 17, and a brigade may very well be flown into Kaliningrad for the exercise.

Each Iskander brigade has between 12-18 tactical nuclear warheads. So that is up to 72 tactical nuclear weapons available for a first strike against NATO forward positions.
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
I could add that each of those Army groups has an Iskander brigade attached, and they will certainly have a role in Zapad 17, and a brigade may very well be flown into Kaliningrad for the exercise.

Each Iskander brigade has between 12-18 tactical nuclear warheads. So that is up to 72 tactical nuclear weapons available for a first strike against NATO forward positions.
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Good times ahead.
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09/01/2017 10:51 PM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
It is now clear that the 8th Guards Army and its subordinate DNR Corps and LNR Corps have a role in Zapad 17. This adds another motorized division and 11 brigades, about 100,000 men and 500 tanks.

This brings the total forces involved in Zapad 17 to 300,000 troops and 2,000 tanks, and suggests that simultaneous offensive operations against Ukraine and NATO are part of the Russian plan for General War in the Western Strategic Direction.
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09/01/2017 11:03 PM
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Truth me, shall I not be pinned?
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
On the move are the 1st Guards Tank Army, the 20th Army, the 6th Army, the 11th Army Corp in Kaliningrad, the Belarus Army and most of the VDV airborne.

That's 2 tank divisions, 3 motorized divisions, 3 airborne divisions and 13 brigades. About 130,000 combat troops with 1,500 tanks and 70,000 support troops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75407393


Wee bit dramatic. Just war games.

Just like NATO does. Just like America does with every other nation.

Relax. It's going to be okay.
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That's right, go back to sleep... while the Worlds Armys prepare for War.
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09/01/2017 11:09 PM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
It is now clear that the 8th Guards Army and its subordinate DNR Corps and LNR Corps have a role in Zapad 17. This adds another motorized division and 11 brigades, about 100,000 men and 500 tanks.

This brings the total forces involved in Zapad 17 to 300,000 troops and 2,000 tanks, and suggests that simultaneous offensive operations against Ukraine and NATO are part of the Russian plan for General War in the Western Strategic Direction.
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Source for the 300000 men?

hiding
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
The Russians do this because of what Germany did during their training mission called Operation Barbarossa. Russia will never let it happen again.
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
This is all bound for the Western Strategic Direction. They could easily roll over the Baltics and penetrate Poland as far as the Vistula, possibly besieging Warsaw and Gdansk. If it actually comes to war, there will be other theaters of course.

The 8th Guards Army, the 58th Army, the 22nd Army Corp in Crimea and the DNR Corp and LNR Corp are all still available in the Southern Direction. They could sweep over southern Ukraine and threaten Romania.

The 2nd Guards Army, the 41st Army and the 5 western heavy divisions of the National Guard constitute the strategic reserve and possible occupation forces.

All up I estimate Russia can commit about 500,000 men to a war against NATO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75407393


That's a lot for the NATO fighter bombers carrying the upgraded nukes to kill. A lot!
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09/01/2017 11:41 PM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
The Russians do this because of what Germany did during their training mission called Operation Barbarossa. Russia will never let it happen again.
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Stalin had massive troops on the border.

putin
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09/01/2017 11:42 PM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
nobody cares
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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09/02/2017 12:19 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Any Links?? Where you getting the info from. I love news like this. If true they are most definitely getting their chess board ready for attack.

Think about it, 2 devastating hurricanes, NK and China, Middle East, Venuzuela, Phillipines...

The entire world is basically on the brink and the US is losing it's grip. Russia knows the USA can't effectively defend Nato or Europe.

Soros has basically opened Europe up for the Russians.
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09/02/2017 12:21 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Any Links?? Where you getting the info from. I love news like this. If true they are most definitely getting their chess board ready for attack.

Think about it, 2 devastating hurricanes, NK and China, Middle East, Venuzuela, Phillipines...

The entire world is basically on the brink and the US is losing it's grip. Russia knows the USA can't effectively defend Nato or Europe.

Soros has basically opened Europe up for the Russians.
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spock
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09/02/2017 01:25 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
300,000 Russians?

How big is the American army in Europe ?
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09/02/2017 01:29 AM
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they get poland , the us gets north korea.

then goes to retrieve poland.


should be good.
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
This is all bound for the Western Strategic Direction. They could easily roll over the Baltics and penetrate Poland as far as the Vistula, possibly besieging Warsaw and Gdansk. If it actually comes to war, there will be other theaters of course.

The 8th Guards Army, the 58th Army, the 22nd Army Corp in Crimea and the DNR Corp and LNR Corp are all still available in the Southern Direction. They could sweep over southern Ukraine and threaten Romania.

The 2nd Guards Army, the 41st Army and the 5 western heavy divisions of the National Guard constitute the strategic reserve and possible occupation forces.

All up I estimate Russia can commit about 500,000 men to a war against NATO.
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Commit. ...and then fall apart from being broke...Afghanistan 2.0
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09/02/2017 09:31 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
This is all bound for the Western Strategic Direction. They could easily roll over the Baltics and penetrate Poland as far as the Vistula, possibly besieging Warsaw and Gdansk. If it actually comes to war, there will be other theaters of course.

The 8th Guards Army, the 58th Army, the 22nd Army Corp in Crimea and the DNR Corp and LNR Corp are all still available in the Southern Direction. They could sweep over southern Ukraine and threaten Romania.

The 2nd Guards Army, the 41st Army and the 5 western heavy divisions of the National Guard constitute the strategic reserve and possible occupation forces.

All up I estimate Russia can commit about 500,000 men to a war against NATO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75407393


That's a lot for the NATO fighter bombers carrying the upgraded nukes to kill. A lot!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5481752


And the Russians wouldn't respond with nukes huh?
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09/02/2017 09:43 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Maybe. According to ww3 prophecy it starts in the balkans. But in the sea.
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09/02/2017 09:45 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Russia's strategy is entirely defensive, it is not going to invade anybody, but it is certainly not going to let others successfully invade Russia.
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09/02/2017 09:50 AM
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Bird Flu about to enter world stage like Spanish Flu 100 years ago.
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09/02/2017 10:09 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Does anyone see Russia acting like a retard?
Name one reason for which they would invade Poland or any other Eastern European country...
What for? Bare land and social problems?
Their industries were long destroyed by EU policies...
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09/02/2017 10:10 AM
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Does anyone see Russia acting like a retard?
Name one reason for which they would invade Poland or any other Eastern European country...
What for? Bare land and social problems?
Their industries were long destroyed by EU policies...
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Dude.... Polish Sausage!
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09/02/2017 10:13 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
russia has a fractional population of USA- a tiny GDP in comparison, and a massive empty territory that they cannot govern or defend. one of the last great resource frontiers on earth ripe for the taking.
It is a shambling giant.
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09/02/2017 10:20 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Let's see.

The globalists running the US are looting common Americans, looting our traditions and heritage, too, destroying our national sovereignty (open borders), bringing in millions of illegals, trashing our constitution, running the brothel called "congress", pushing for the normalization of every form of derangement thinkable, using the US military as their own mercenary force in interventions in their interest, including now directing the force of the US against Russia etc.

Putin and Russia are, in the interest of the Russian nation standing up to these globalists.

And someone wants me to cheer for the real enemy of Americans and against the enemy of my enemy?
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09/02/2017 10:23 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
Battle of Kursk
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09/02/2017 10:24 AM
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Re: Russia is forward deploying 8 divisions for Zapad 17
The Poles and the 3 Baltic nations are making mud right now.





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