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X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017

 
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Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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What happen a decade ago when a CME this size hit? Anything significant?
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


They say it will cause G2 and G3 it's tied with one that happened in 1990 they say nothing much will be noticed just ham radios ect will experience some outage.

It's rated number 14 being the Carrington event number 1
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The Day the Sun Brought Darkness
[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]

Check it out!
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Any super nerds or basic nerds have an understanding of atmospheric temperature and the relation to air pressure in a hurricane?

Wouldn't it lower the pressure because the air is expanding more from heat??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


It's a collision of high speed "solar material" hitting our thin upper atmosphere.

Some of the energy turns to light (Auroras) and some turns to other frequencies of RF energy.

The collisions should increase pressure as particles are pushed towards the earth's surface from their higher altitudes.
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The Day the Sun Brought Darkness
[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]

Check it out!
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yawn boring, not gonna happen
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Any super nerds or basic nerds have an understanding of atmospheric temperature and the relation to air pressure in a hurricane?

Wouldn't it lower the pressure because the air is expanding more from heat??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


It's a collision of high speed "solar material" hitting our thin upper atmosphere.

Some of the energy turns to light (Auroras) and some turns to other frequencies of RF energy.

The collisions should increase pressure as particles are pushed towards the earth's surface from their higher altitudes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75088615


So, in theory, it should soften the hurricane and/or change the direction.

Thanks dude
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Any super nerds or basic nerds have an understanding of atmospheric temperature and the relation to air pressure in a hurricane?

Wouldn't it lower the pressure because the air is expanding more from heat??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


It's a collision of high speed "solar material" hitting our thin upper atmosphere.

Some of the energy turns to light (Auroras) and some turns to other frequencies of RF energy.

The collisions should increase pressure as particles are pushed towards the earth's surface from their higher altitudes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75088615


So, in theory, it should soften the hurricane and/or change the direction.

Thanks dude
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


I was thinking that hot air is lower pressure because the air particles are less dense.
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nothing will happen, go back to your hot pockets
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And you don't think that North Korea is lining their missiles up and said they would be doing something around the 8-9 of Sept...So if he see's an opportunity to knock the grid back to the 1800's this is his window of opportunity
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


What happen a decade ago when a CME this size hit? Anything significant?
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


March 1989 geomagnetic storm
The storm began on Earth with extremely intense auroras at the poles. The aurora could be seen as far south as Texas and Florida. As this occurred during the Cold War, an unknown number of people worried that a nuclear first strike might be in progress.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Given the standoff with NK, what could go wrong?
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The scribes have cemented the script in many minds over the decades
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My questions are not about Grid electricity disruptions cause it is not directly earth facing.

More worried about how it could influence the current weather situation and of course seismic activity.
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Do you have a source that says its not directly Earth facing...

I was under the impression that it was....
 Quoting: DuckNCover

what i mean is that the center of the CME missed Earth in that model/simulation whatever you want to call it.

I'm talking about what was shown in SO's(Supiciousobserver) video about it.
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nothing will happen, go back to your hot pockets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75492800



And you don't think that North Korea is lining their missiles up and said they would be doing something around the 8-9 of Sept...So if he see's an opportunity to knock the grid back to the 1800's this is his window of opportunity
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Nothing will happen, Nk will NOT launch missiles to USA, no EMP, no solar-doom, nothing at all, all the doom has been cancelled
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No, it won't affect Hurricane Irma as the geomagnetic activity is not expected to go below 50 degrees (at most) which means it's effects will only be felt as far down as Pennsylvania.
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


Well, there were a few threads yesterday on it...

Thread: Sun is in the dance mood X2 and X10 Flare

Thread: X 10 SOLAR FLARE JUST EXPLODED FROM THE SUN!!!

I still have not got a definitive answer on the exact timing of the CME impact on the Earth's surface....

Some say 9/9 at 1600 UTC, others are saying 9/8 with no time specifications....
 Quoting: DuckNCover


1200 UTC, 8 September 2017 according to NASA

[link to scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net (secure)]

taken from

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
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Serious...

This could happen....

Cover your eyes...

I had a vision...

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09/07/2017 10:41 AM
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Were the Mayan calendars of by a couple years?
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Were the Mayan calendars of by a couple years?
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Or the archaeologists got the start date wrong....
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New xflare right now
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ACE Real-Time Solar Wind: all peak data from yesterday is missing!
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

All peak proton flux data that was displayed until 14 hours ago was erased!
[link to services.swpc.noaa.gov]

glassesoff
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


Well, there were a few threads yesterday on it...

Thread: Sun is in the dance mood X2 and X10 Flare

Thread: X 10 SOLAR FLARE JUST EXPLODED FROM THE SUN!!!

I still have not got a definitive answer on the exact timing of the CME impact on the Earth's surface....

Some say 9/9 at 1600 UTC, others are saying 9/8 with no time specifications....
 Quoting: DuckNCover


maybe the news is so awful they can't bare to put it out?
.
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
ACE Real-Time Solar Wind: all peak data from yesterday is missing!
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

All peak proton flux data that was displayed until 14 hours ago was erased!
[link to services.swpc.noaa.gov]

glassesoff
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Excellent call....

Thanks....
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ACE Real-Time Solar Wind: all peak data from yesterday is missing!
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

All peak proton flux data that was displayed until 14 hours ago was erased!
[link to services.swpc.noaa.gov]

glassesoff
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Glitch, happens sometimes
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


You are a day late and it is not going to be a big impact.

We covered it already.

Search is your friend.
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Strongest in over a decade.

Stunned that this hasn't hit the GLP yet.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


You are a day late and it is not going to be a big impact.

We covered it already.

Search is your friend.
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More X's are coming, imagine that we have 2-4 X's daily in one week, what will happen? is just an speculation of course
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
Another X flare just hitting now. This is not as big an X-flare as the 9.3 but still...

[link to solarham.net]
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Another X-flare now!

[link to legacy-www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Movie:
[link to solardemon.oma.be]

Space Weather Message Code: ALTXMF
Serial Number: 271
Issue Time: 2017 Sep 07 1435 UTC

ALERT: X-Ray Flux exceeded M5
Threshold Reached: 2017 Sep 07 1433 UTC
NOAA Scale: R2 - Moderate


NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact centered on sub-solar point on the sunlit side of Earth. Extent of blackout of HF (high frequency) radio communication dependent upon current X-ray Flux intensity. For real-time information on affected area and expected duration please see [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Wonder if this will change the Irma models if its randomly heating up the atmosphere???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31120771


bump
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It's possible!! But I'm hoping it doesn't!!
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Another X flare just hitting now. This is not as big an X-flare as the 9.3 but still...

[link to solarham.net]
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More than 2 years without any X flare and now the sun is awakening
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That isn't big enough to worry about
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Re: X 9.3 Solar Flare and CME Earthbound Sept 8, 2017
ACE Real-Time Solar Wind: all peak data from yesterday is missing!
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

All peak proton flux data that was displayed until 14 hours ago was erased!
[link to services.swpc.noaa.gov]

glassesoff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75495339


Glitch, happens sometimes
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No glitch. I've seen all three energy levels of the proton flux data going to the roof 14 hours ago. Now that data is missing!





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