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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75219378 United States 09/12/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure on the need for an axe. Do you really need to cut down anything bigger than 4-5" in diameter for a survival shelter? That's why I like the cheap tramontina machette... bend the 4-5" tree over, find the weak spot, baton the machette at that spot and the tree will snap. Beaver-chew the rest of the tree. I'll amend my earlier post with the machette, knife, and saw... I really like Silky, but you can probably save $10 on a bahco saw and it'll work just as well. An axe is way heavier than a tramontina. Keep in mind, this is for a newer user and an axe is more dangerous to the ignorant than a machette... and easier to use as a defensive tool. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75331506 United States 09/12/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.kabar.com (secure)] damn, same goddamn knife in every way being sold 20 years later for fifty bucks more than i paid. I think I got it out of a knife magazine. wish i could remember. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75506137 Canada 09/12/2017 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another comment.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75506137 a lot of survival folks will tell you that you need a knife to baton wood with... and you in effect need a knife to act like a sword. you do not need to baton wood with a knife. A small axe can split wood well. you will not normally be cutting large logs in the field so splitting wood is not that useful and expends too much energy better spent doing other things. sometimes when desperate you may need to spit wood to get something that is dry but your axe would do that. a decent fixed blade can be attached to a pole and used for various purposes. I burn large logs at the ends and have used fire to cut logs even. Why waste energy cutting and splitting wood if you don't need to do so? i mean, but ya dont really need to do all that. you could just get used to the dark and cold. yes you are correct indeed. if one was to truly evade capture then a fire is not in the works, certainly not a big one. then the whole thing swings to shelter and an axe is even more useful. try hacking down a tree with a big knife... not very efficient. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75331506 United States 09/12/2017 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another comment.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75506137 a lot of survival folks will tell you that you need a knife to baton wood with... and you in effect need a knife to act like a sword. you do not need to baton wood with a knife. A small axe can split wood well. you will not normally be cutting large logs in the field so splitting wood is not that useful and expends too much energy better spent doing other things. sometimes when desperate you may need to spit wood to get something that is dry but your axe would do that. a decent fixed blade can be attached to a pole and used for various purposes. I burn large logs at the ends and have used fire to cut logs even. Why waste energy cutting and splitting wood if you don't need to do so? i mean, but ya dont really need to do all that. you could just get used to the dark and cold. yes you are correct indeed. if one was to truly evade capture then a fire is not in the works, certainly not a big one. then the whole thing swings to shelter and an axe is even more useful. try hacking down a tree with a big knife... not very efficient. no, no it's not. My pet beaver Ignatius and his family cut all my wood for me. hey does anyone know of a magazine that sold knives around year 2000 that was super well done? it was like the greatest sales magazine Ive ever seen. really high quality brand name knives for like 50% off. I am wondering if they went out of business...lol |
Doom Junkie User ID: 74040840 United States 09/12/2017 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all you want is just one knife to do the job I'd recommend the Knives of Alaska Bush Camp knife. American made, superior edge retention. If you just need some tools to go camping get the Kephart trio, knife, axe, and saw. These are all solid choices. $ 20 Bahco Laplander folding saw $ 40 Estwing Camp axe $ 40 Ontario Rat 1 in D2 (also a fine EDC) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75219378 United States 09/12/2017 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all you want is just one knife to do the job I'd recommend the Knives of Alaska Bush Camp knife. American made, superior edge retention. Quoting: Doom Junkie If you just need some tools to go camping get the Kephart trio, knife, axe, and saw. These are all solid choices. $ 20 Bahco Laplander folding saw $ 40 Estwing Camp axe $ 40 Ontario Rat 1 in D2 (also a fine EDC) Isn't D2 way harder to maintain than other steels? Especially for a newbie? Estwing Camp Axe is a very solid choice... solid, as in crazy heavy. I'd recommend a hatchett with a wood handle... less weight and even a newbie could figure out how to fashion some kind of handle in the woods if it breaks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75506137 Canada 09/12/2017 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the reason to baton/split is if the outside of the deadwood is soaked, the inside might be dry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219378 I'm not sure on the need for an axe. Do you really need to cut down anything bigger than 4-5" in diameter for a survival shelter? That's why I like the cheap tramontina machette... bend the 4-5" tree over, find the weak spot, baton the machette at that spot and the tree will snap. Beaver-chew the rest of the tree. I'll amend my earlier post with the machette, knife, and saw... I really like Silky, but you can probably save $10 on a bahco saw and it'll work just as well. An axe is way heavier than a tramontina. Keep in mind, this is for a newer user and an axe is more dangerous to the ignorant than a machette... and easier to use as a defensive tool. yeah inner part would be dry indeed. agreed, you do not normally need to cut down large wood. a machette is for brush though or sugar cane or similar? is it going to cut down 6" stock efficiently? or even 5 or 4" either? depends where you live, if I was in tropics I would have machette first of course, anywhere else no. those folder saws are toys, I have them they are not worth it. but up to you. The blades are thin, teeth will dull fast, and the hinge can fail. sorry I need to explain, I mean a hatchet. An axe is for big logs and not to carry into the field. You are correct an axe is dangerous and takes skill, concentration and even physical strength to wield properly. I don't like metal handle or fibre glass due to weight and too much vibration when chopping. something like this: [link to www.ebay.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75506137 Canada 09/12/2017 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Respectfully, the advice to attach your blade to a stick is a horribly stupid idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219378 Why not shave the end of a stick to a point and keep the knife on your belt? yes, you can fire harden the wooden end and even rub the coals in there as well. although with spears you would need several of them to down an animal but you would be more accurate and be faster throwing the wooden only ones. you agree with me that much of the 'knife' business is bullshit I see.. |
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Doom Junkie User ID: 74040840 United States 09/12/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all you want is just one knife to do the job I'd recommend the Knives of Alaska Bush Camp knife. American made, superior edge retention. Quoting: Doom Junkie If you just need some tools to go camping get the Kephart trio, knife, axe, and saw. These are all solid choices. $ 20 Bahco Laplander folding saw $ 40 Estwing Camp axe $ 40 Ontario Rat 1 in D2 (also a fine EDC) Isn't D2 way harder to maintain than other steels? Especially for a newbie? Estwing Camp Axe is a very solid choice... solid, as in crazy heavy. I'd recommend a hatchett with a wood handle... less weight and even a newbie could figure out how to fashion some kind of handle in the woods if it breaks. D2 has higher edge retention because it's a tool steel that's very abrasive resistant, so to sharpen it you'd need some DMT diamond files/stones then it wouldn't take any longer than any other knife. However D2 doesn't need to be sharpened that often if at all, stropping will bring your edge back to razor sharpness quite easily and prevent unnecessary wear on the blade from over sharpening. Really you only need to sharpen a knife when you fuck up the edge, and with a D2 knife that won't happen much. D2 is stupid tough. DMT diafold. Get one. As for stropping leather with compound works great, but even just your belt will do the trick nicely. I have on several occasions stropped with cardboard. As a rule, anything that will dull a knife will sharpen it. |
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Doom Junkie User ID: 74040840 United States 09/12/2017 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219378 Estwing Camp Axe is a very solid choice... solid, as in crazy heavy. I'd recommend a hatchett with a wood handle... less weight and even a newbie could figure out how to fashion some kind of handle in the woods if it breaks. What I hear when somebody complains about the weight of a tool. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75520490 United States 09/12/2017 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hit up your local Goodwill and find large heavy duty kitchen knives. A heavy duty butcher knife will be plenty for small wood tasks and wood splitting and batoning. A small carver. A medium to large knife for general purpose. If you want an all around good knife then a Mora can't be beat. You don't have to go expensive at all. Go to flea markets and trade shows to find the gems no one wants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46486639 United States 09/12/2017 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the reason to baton/split is if the outside of the deadwood is soaked, the inside might be dry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219378 I'm not sure on the need for an axe. Do you really need to cut down anything bigger than 4-5" in diameter for a survival shelter? That's why I like the cheap tramontina machette... bend the 4-5" tree over, find the weak spot, baton the machette at that spot and the tree will snap. Beaver-chew the rest of the tree. I'll amend my earlier post with the machette, knife, and saw... I really like Silky, but you can probably save $10 on a bahco saw and it'll work just as well. An axe is way heavier than a tramontina. Keep in mind, this is for a newer user and an axe is more dangerous to the ignorant than a machette... and easier to use as a defensive tool. the hatchet is also useful for breaking soil, trenching, and leveling foundations, plus it has a blunt side for striking wedges. |
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Lester User ID: 58834049 United States 09/12/2017 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to a few RESALE SHOPS.... Buy several Good Kitchen Knives. Your looking for Full-Tang blades. Chicago Cutlery makes great products. You want paring knives, Chef's Knives and carver knives. Pay about $2ea. Leave you enough money for a good sharpener set, like a diamond hone and a ceramic stick set. A nice Arkansa stone is also good. Keep your eye open for a decent hatchet and single bladed axe. Pawnshops are also a source for good deals. Restaurant Supply houses sell great quality knives too; just not as cheap. A hD meat cleaver is a great tool for chopping. Cold Steel makes a great utility knife called The Bushman which is all steel with a hollow handle that can adapt for use as a spear. They are cheap; probably still under $20. I paid $12 for mine. If you want to learn about bush use of the knife; look for Ron Hood's The Hoodlums forum and maybe some of his videos. Don't forget when pawnshopping, always take cash and offer at least half of the asking price. Make sure they know you're paying with cash for the best deal. $100 can get you a great edged setup if you use it wisely and don't mind buying used. Just don't forget to get a decent sharpening system. Cheap kitchen knives like Old Hickory are carbon steel and they are ewasiest to sharpen and maintain. Stick to USA, Euro, or Japanese made stuff and you will be fine. Have FUN Knife-Hunting! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72884621 United States 09/12/2017 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another comment.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75506137 a lot of survival folks will tell you that you need a knife to baton wood with... and you in effect need a knife to act like a sword. you do not need to baton wood with a knife. A small axe can split wood well. you will not normally be cutting large logs in the field so splitting wood is not that useful and expends too much energy better spent doing other things. sometimes when desperate you may need to spit wood to get something that is dry but your axe would do that. a decent fixed blade can be attached to a pole and used for various purposes. I burn large logs at the ends and have used fire to cut logs even. Why waste energy cutting and splitting wood if you don't need to do so? i mean, but ya dont really need to do all that. you could just get used to the dark and cold. yes you are correct indeed. if one was to truly evade capture then a fire is not in the works, certainly not a big one. then the whole thing swings to shelter and an axe is even more useful. try hacking down a tree with a big knife... not very efficient. no, no it's not. My pet beaver Ignatius and his family cut all my wood for me. hey does anyone know of a magazine that sold knives around year 2000 that was super well done? it was like the greatest sales magazine Ive ever seen. really high quality brand name knives for like 50% off. I am wondering if they went out of business...lol Smoky Mountain Knifeworks, still in business. |