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URANTIA.. Christ Michael.. ITC

 
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I am starting this thread to replace a thread of another I was posting in which got horribly attacked. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] was the thread.

I will copy over some of my posts and I am asking any of you who posted there with commentary that was appropriate or questions to copy them here. Since this is MY thread I can and will remove offensive posts. Thank you for all who participated in the other one... I will not post in it again.
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I am copying over anothers post and my reply.

The 'Good News' is about how mankind's disconnection from God can be reestablished thru that one man Jesus Christ and His Way. We fell from grace through Adam and we arise through Jesus Christ. The Good News is about 'The Way' of Jesus Christ or how to live here now and how to get ready for life there later. The Good Lord Jesus Christ's works as witnessed, are 4 books out of 66 that make up the modern Bible. Those 4 books only 120 pages in length are titled Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are also called the Gospel of Jesus Christ, 'The Truth' or 'The Good News' aka The Owner's Manual To These Flesh Suits we drive until we leave them for home by God's Grace via Jesus Christ's sacrifice.

Jesus Christ's philosophy or Way was handed to him from his Father, our Father....the God of All Creations. It is a philosophy of grace...it is not a performance based philosophy....you can do nothing but
accept it as a gift of God's grace.

Become FREE for FREE==> [link to www.e-sword.net] Download an additional bible called the GNB or Good News Bible (it is in everyday easy English) for easy reading. Included are commentaries on each passage to help with difficult areas.

The Lord desires to develop a personal relationship as a parent to child,brother to brother and brother to sister with us.
 Quoting: Turkey456

this is NOT truth. This is fairy tales.

The gospel was NOT those 4 books. The false church Jesus did NOT start decided that one. They weren't even written when Jesus walked this world.

What Jesus did was DEMONSTRATE RELIGIOUS LIVING>> LISTENING TO THE INNER FATHER. His gospel to be spread around the world was HUMANS ARE SONS OF GOD. Its that simple. They are Sons of God because they are indwelt by a fragment of the Father... This fragment will counsel you thruout you life eternal.

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Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.

Just posting this so I can update my signature file in bold and also to cause some of you to read and ponder about this. I found this by somebody here on GLP in fact and its the nicest short summary of this ascension process. Enjoy. hf

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Copying over several small posts.

This was in response to somebody asking about "reset"

But for now there is no reset. I do personally know several associated with the ITC.

and I do know PERSONALLY THE RETURNED CHRIST MICHAEL OF NEBADON.

UPDATING. After the magnetic reversal there is a plan developed that will be put in place. It will include debt forgiveness.


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This post is a reply to one suggesting I am a paid agent of the CIA.


I am not a paid agent of anybody... I AM THAT I AM . I am partnered with the returned Jesus Christ. Deal with it. I do not discredit the UB is that is what you are talking about. I have not read the entire thread.

The ITC .. Divine Foundation Is in fact Divine.


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This is a response to a negative challenge that I have turned people away from the UB.


I haven't turned anyone away.. that is a personal choice . I am chased by people such as you however.. which could have caused the unknowing to respond in a negative way.

Your bible mentions the 1000 years of celestial government after the removal of the satanic ones from this planet. My organization is that government that will govern for those roughly 1000 years of the correcting time and after that.. those folks who have grown up under our government can begin again to govern themselves. Satan.. the person is NOT on this planet anymore and the UB does state that clearly as well as Lucifer who was removed shortly after the crucifixion.


And in case you didn't know.. Jesus defended his position too. I am entitled to defend my position and in fact required to do so. Please explain in great detail, assuming your actually read the Urantia Book.. everyone one of those 2000+ pages....what was my damage to it? I have supported the UB since the day I purchased it.

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Could we please have a discussion with Candace about the Urantia book without you bible dicks fucking it all up for once?
Nobody in here wants to read verses and you are certainly not going to change any minds.
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I would love that personally.. but there are not enough Seekers of Truth here to overcome those that cause me and all that which Jesus promised upon his return in which he said he would return with an incredible number of angels and lots and lots of teachers. These ones are not bible freaks in this thread.. they are enemy of truth.. who want the planet for themselves. Club Baloney members are NOT Christians at all... they are Khazars who on purpose support material that is not truth because they do not want people to have truth and discover that power of the Father Within... The khazars want to keep mankind in their service and not in service to the planet and the creation.

Most of the verses used are not truth.. such as the one about Jesus being the 2nd person Trinity as the one and only begotten son.

Each and every Seeker of the truth is an ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD. ONLY BEGOTTEN means UNIQUE.. and it matters not if one is begotten of the angelic realms or begotten thru birth. Begotten is begotten... and never does any being match another ...


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In response to statements on me.

I can say the the discussion about ME started in this thread before I ever came to GLP today. The OP's statement apparently caused some to rush here and degrade the thread.

I am fluent also about ITC as it is part of the 2nd Coming process and I carry the ITC material on my website and I know some of the main players in the ITC personally. Therefore I can teach about the UB and the ITC. Which is my passion by the way.hf

I had an inner urge to check GLP and this pinned thread was right in my face thusly and already being trashed about me.

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copied with my reply to here.

What is it with everyone always needing to be "right"

We need Love in this world, not being right. How many times in life did you think you were right, all to find out later how wrong you were. Everyone has experienced this.

Open discussion are important but remember we are on the same team
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This is part of the 4d process which taking people out of being sheeple and into developing their own minds. 3d is the age of following. 4d is the traumatic age which people are pummeled with everything possible to upset their manufactured beliefs... 4d turns those able into GOD KNOWING SONS OF GOD. And as that happens more and more.. the dark side will have no power over them.

They must argue for their being right until with all the confusion they have to admit perhaps there is something more than the held mind controlled beliefs. Early humans FOLLOW . They must learn to think for themselves. That is what we are in now... to turn them into God knowing Human beings.

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copied this statement and my reply to here.

Ascending Sonship status for all Univitatians now…!!!


The Urantia Book is an interesting read, but it is more geared towards knowledge of God rather than faith in God like the Bible. The UB has a tremendously strong pro-Melchizidek bias. Nearly every quote attributed to Jesus in the Bible is within the Urantia Book, except the verses pertaining to Judgment and eternal punishment. According to the UB, 'annihilation decrees' are issued against those who rebelled, and "are no more," 'the wages of sin being death.' There have been 3 rebellions in the past of the Local Universe, each being worse than the previous. The Urantia Book's pro-Melchizidek's bias does not allow for them to have ever erred. Also, according to the Urantia Book, the Era of Light and Life will not come until nearly every earthly inhabitant has accepted God the Father and 'personality survival.' The way the earth and it's inhabitants are heading these days, that Era of Light will never come this side of Divine Intervention, which is what the Bible teaches in 'lest those days be shortened, no man would survive.'

Those with sufficient faith should be able to handle what the Urantia Book teaches, but the UB is not without error, there are 50 days from the Resurrection was the day of Pentecost in the Bible, not 40 in the UB. The UB stresses 'free will,' yet why was Jesus' Mother not allowed the choice of birthing the Christ? According to the UB, Gabriel's announcement was after His conception. At Jesus' appearance on the shores of the Sea of Galilee, he advised the disciples to "try the other side of the boat," the UB dismisses the catch of 153 as His knowing the Lake rather than any sort of miracle. Perhaps, but I doubt the author never fished a day in his life…)))
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Beloved.. what the UB could NOT cover in order to be published.. was the fact of WHO Mary Was and all the other players of that play back then. All were advanced souls INCARNATING HERE and the PLAN was made in advance by those who intended these roles.. Mankind was NOT mature enough in those days to be stuck with NEW SOUL STUFF. New Beings cannot concept this. Always.. in every single planet do advanced beings incarnate on purpose to further the growth of the human races... evolution is SLOW and if it not stipulated by incarnations it just sits there.

This planet is a research planet.. which the UB does say... in which the effort was made to cause mankind to grow faster in his spirit. In fact that process has cut back incarnations within life by about 1 million life times.

It does say that human mind appeared on this planet LONG BEFORE it was expected and thus there was not chosen planetary Prince yet. I am thinking 500,00o years early but I would have to recheck that.

To enhance the development of mind.. there were more incarnations here from other places to stimulate it. And placing dark side here who cannot enter the better realms is a stimulation also.

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Jesus has returned and I know him personally. We are at this time setting the planet up for the 1000 year celestial rule.

If you expect Jesus to return on a cloud and rapture everyone.. you are sadly mistaken as to how it works. and of course that rapture belief is about Christians only... Islamists all get to go to hell.. remember.

Jesus and his full teams have been working since the return in 1954 from above. Mankind would MURDER him all over again otherwise.

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


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The UB denies the reincarnation beliefs on this planet.. one for publishing and the other is that angels who rebel CAN reincarnate and the Lucifer folks were placed on this planet as part of a deal for their "repentance" and so they could understand on a personal basis.. what the human is and goes thru from an inside experience of pretending to be humans.

The other.. as to the human being.. cannot reincarnate until there has been a resurrection. A lot of folks slept under the control of the fallen prince who would not allow folks to make their way to the mansion worlds in the normal manner because Calisgastia the Prince refused to allow it. That is why we have an astral realm because folks incarnating here could not leave either.. and thus the astral was created as a holding ground for them. The bible does talk about the release of the hostages but I forget the exact term used.


There is discussion of reincarnation and other topics. any of you who wish move your posts here.. I might move some that are part of the discussion. I posted this comment when it was time for me to get off last night.




I will be back later when I have time.

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Jesus has returned and I know him personally. We are at this time setting the planet up for the 1000 year celestial rule.

If you expect Jesus to return on a cloud and rapture everyone.. you are sadly mistaken as to how it works. and of course that rapture belief is about Christians only... Islamists all get to go to hell.. remember.

Jesus and his full teams have been working since the return in 1954 from above. Mankind would MURDER him all over again otherwise.

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


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The UB denies the reincarnation beliefs on this planet.. one for publishing and the other is that angels who rebel CAN reincarnate and the Lucifer folks were placed on this planet as part of a deal for their "repentance" and so they could understand on a personal basis.. what the human is and goes thru from an inside experience of pretending to be humans.

The other.. as to the human being.. cannot reincarnate until there has been a resurrection. A lot of folks slept under the control of the fallen prince who would not allow folks to make their way to the mansion worlds in the normal manner because Calisgastia the Prince refused to allow it. That is why we have an astral realm because folks incarnating here could not leave either.. and thus the astral was created as a holding ground for them. The bible does talk about the release of the hostages but I forget the exact term used.


There is discussion of reincarnation and other topics. any of you who wish move your posts here.. I might move some that are part of the discussion. I posted this comment when it was time for me to get off last night.




I will be back later when I have time.
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Question...what do you mean exactly by Jesus has returned and I know him personally?

A voice of authority in the mind? Has he shown up in some recognizable form to you?

Please explain in detail...
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Jesus has returned and I know him personally. We are at this time setting the planet up for the 1000 year celestial rule.

If you expect Jesus to return on a cloud and rapture everyone.. you are sadly mistaken as to how it works. and of course that rapture belief is about Christians only... Islamists all get to go to hell.. remember.

Jesus and his full teams have been working since the return in 1954 from above. Mankind would MURDER him all over again otherwise.

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


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The UB denies the reincarnation beliefs on this planet.. one for publishing and the other is that angels who rebel CAN reincarnate and the Lucifer folks were placed on this planet as part of a deal for their "repentance" and so they could understand on a personal basis.. what the human is and goes thru from an inside experience of pretending to be humans.

The other.. as to the human being.. cannot reincarnate until there has been a resurrection. A lot of folks slept under the control of the fallen prince who would not allow folks to make their way to the mansion worlds in the normal manner because Calisgastia the Prince refused to allow it. That is why we have an astral realm because folks incarnating here could not leave either.. and thus the astral was created as a holding ground for them. The bible does talk about the release of the hostages but I forget the exact term used.


There is discussion of reincarnation and other topics. any of you who wish move your posts here.. I might move some that are part of the discussion. I posted this comment when it was time for me to get off last night.




I will be back later when I have time.
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Question...what do you mean exactly by Jesus has returned and I know him personally?

A voice of authority in the mind? Has he shown up in some recognizable form to you?

Please explain in detail...
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thank you for reposting that... because I can answer it better now. The return was in 1954.

I incarnated in a role to serve this process and have started the 2nd coming organization which you can find using google... (KAN DAEK or Candace and 2nd Coming should produce the website which so can't be posted here. )

I am the Ground HEAD of this global organization and I travel often to SHIP for meetings. Jesus has indeed visited me also down here. I communicate every day and am updated often by Him and others above from "heaven"... by method of telepathy which is always a 2 way conversion. I encruited to a variety of very high individuals in the Celestial government.

If you have read a bunch of the UB... you may know about the 7th Master Spirit of Orvonton who is directly involved in the decisions for this world. His name is Siraya and I am not the only person who has worked with him.

I am connected and serve under one of the 3 ancients of Days of Orvonton also and the name of that one Mantustia.

I am also concerning the ITC topic of this thread connected to a being from Orvonton who is calling himself David Righter on this world and who is embodied in the same way as the Melchizedek who came at the time of Abraham. I don't know if you are a UB reader I didn't check your User number for other posts.

David Righter is a celestial being who specializes in assisting really bad financial systems in big trouble on worlds such as this. He is here with his "consort" who is also wearing a high frequency flesh suit and they are reproductive and have 2 children now birthed by method of well.. Birth. He has a team of around 1000 ground crew directly assisting the process around the world. All are incarnate star seeds and highly experienced. Star Seeds can be incarnate angelic beings or ascendant humans from the higher realms.. and I do want to move some of my posts on incarnation and cover it further if there is interest. Jesus/Michael of Nebadon was incarnate. Actually every being is incarnate... for the spirit uses the meat or plant suit and not the other way ways. You are not a being having a soul.. you are a soul having a meat suit for whatever purpose you are one the planet. Always is this true. LIFE IS IN THE SPIRIT and NEVER IN THE ACTUAL plant suit or animal suit.

Also I work with the Personalized adjuster over URANTIA and have contacted with the one who indwelled Jesus when he was here and is now the Head Adjuster of Nebadon. And quite a few others. I am posting these little details to benefit the UB readers.

I Am a Mighty Messenger from Paradise. We are ascendant perfected beings from the Human races on the many worlds. I am rebellion tested which does have something to do with my assignment here. I also had the origin of my being IN Nebadon in a constellation called MANUELA. I met some others from there when I went to S Korea two years ago.

Our organization will guide and rule this world for 1000 years approximately. This world is TERRIBLY behind and to assist the Mother Gaia and those who are evolving on her.. we are in what Michael of Nebadon has labeled the Correcting time. The planet is very sadly in need of an ON THE GROUND CELESTIAL GOVERNMENT. Some who read the UB understand there were some failures in the usual way of doing things. What we are doing in this correcting time is NOT the usual way of doing things. After this time of Correction.. mankind should be able to then self govern on this world.. which is why the DUMB statement in the bible says Satan will be unleashed from the bottomless pit or however that story is told. that is a TERRIBLE RENDITION.

The direct contact between ME and Christ began in think about 1995 in which I was aware then that I was in direct contact with GOD .. but not fully aware of who that God was. I have always had inner contact however.. I just didn't always know who.. and much of the time that was my guardian angel.. My soul Mate Tom who is also a Mighty Messenger and will walk this planet. He's busy assisting Christ Michael UP there on craft and running duties and message to some of the other planets who entered the Lucifer Rebellion. Tom will walk by method of manufactured body and he already has it when needed in fact. We will be together often in the future.

I think this is a long enough post for now and thank you ever so much for asking. hfhfhf
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If Jesus has returned..
Why do you keep calling him Nebanon Michael or whatever?
Isnt that insulting him by calling him by the wrong name?
Personally, it would piss me off.
And I would be insulted greatly.

Some archangel named Michael, was supoosedly Jesus?
Is that the idea?

If Michael was soo great and defeated the Dragon, why is the Dragon still alive to this day?

Also..
What powers does your Michael friend have?
Shown to you, in person.
Can he make the Lips of God appear before your eyes?

And if Adam was God's first son, why isnt he the one called the Son of God?

Why does Urantia have the beginnings of Uranus within it?
Is it because Uranus is said to be a child of Earth?

And also, 1,000 years is only 1 day.
You realize this right?
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If Jesus has returned..
Why do you keep calling him Nebanon Michael or whatever?
Isnt that insulting him by calling him by the wrong name?
Personally, it would piss me off.
And I would be insulted greatly.

Some archangel named Michael, was supoosedly Jesus?
Is that the idea?

If Michael was soo great and defeated the Dragon, why is the Dragon still alive to this day?

Also..
What powers does your Michael friend have?
Shown to you, in person.
Can he make the Lips of God appear before your eyes?

And if Adam was God's first son, why isnt he the one called the Son of God?

Why does Urantia have the beginnings of Uranus within it?
Is it because Uranus is said to be a child of Earth?

And also, 1,000 years is only 1 day.
You realize this right?
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Ok you have not read the Urantia Book. I just noticed you are not the same person also who I just replied to.

I have been on ship with Michael in Nebadon in the form he is using. I do not have to see his eyes. The dragon was defeated in heaven.. and the lucifer group sent to earth. God has no lips beloved in terms of the Trinity and God the Father God the father is that which imbeds the entire creation either thru himself or thru the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. There are no lips.

God the FATHER places a PIECE OF HIMSELF in Every normal moral Human mind throughout the entire creation. From your questions I can tell you are Indwelled by him yourself. This fragment of the Father's being is YOUR PERSONAL GOD and who will journey without thru out all your eternity. That is how the Father is everywhere as such in Human Beings everywhere. The Father FRAGMENT.. which is often called the Divine Spirit within and other such similar names... comes to all Evolutionary Humans who have come to think and are indwelled by the 7 spirits of the Mother.. These 7 spirits are listed in the bible. Animals are indwelled by the first 5 of these spirits and humans by those five and 2 more.. The two more are the Spirit of Wisdom and the Spirit of Worship. Worship does not mean going to church... It starts as being AWESTRUCK by the creation as it perceived and the knowing there is SOMETHING GREATER. Wisdom I think is self evident.

Urantia is the official celestial record name of Earth. In included the body of the planet and her spirit who is also called Urantia or GAIA or Mother Earth as some names.

I have no idea where the name Uranus came from.. never though of looking up any history. I can tell you that there are humans living on it underneath domes.. maybe be some of the source of "domed" cities you see in various stories. It does not have satisfactory atmosphere and temperature to support life but it is colonized by beings who have technology to do so. HUMAN beings from the cosmos..

Michael of Nebadon. is the CREATOR SON of this local universe. Just as say earth is divided into many countries and continents.. so is the creation. The creation continually is forming more and more.

Local Universes are governed by MICHAEL SONS.. whose "parentage " is of the Creator Father and the Eternal Son. Also involved to complete the trinity is the local universe Mother.. who has her creation in the Infinite Spirit. There are now in various stages of growth 700,000 LOCAL universes and each is huge. Currently in Nebadon.. OUR local universe there are about 3.8 MILLION planets that have evolved intelligent beings. When "finished" there will be approximately 10 million. This is similar to all the others in size and possibility.

So there was a rebellion by Lucifer and angelic beings and in some cases human beings on other worlds against the Father and Against the Michael Son. The beings that participated were in general sent to reincarnate on Earth and Lucifer was placed here but was not reincarnating.. Michael chose to deal with this by having them come to understand the evolution of Humans beings and how these ones were not creator beings that we part of this.

One reason there is so much reincarnation here is because Lucifer cannot create his own angels or his own human beings... He is a GOVERNOR as to his being and he cannot create other beings. He needed a painful less in that because he ran a rebellion/civil war on the claim in part that he wanted to become a creator being.

Well he found he could not do that. He had no ability and could not obtain such. Most of the angelic real beings are NOT creator beings .. they are teachers.. governments managers of energy and much much more.

But let me tell you about the HUMAN being.. YOU dear one if you stick wth your life eternal Will become a CREATOR BEING in your later destiny and you are already in smaller measure.

How come animals cannot draw pictures.. plan for the future and all those things... they aren't human.. (yet which I can delve into later). Human Beings are CO CREATORS WITH THE FATHER. We have fully participated with the FATHER in building the CREATION outside of the Central Universe of Havona. How's them apples? That is what you are and its NOT taught on this planet and its SAD.

People can allow themselves to be called Children of God but they do NOT CONCEPT WHAT that MEANS.. They do not Concept themselves as SONS OF GOD. YET YOU ARE. And that WAS the GOSPEL that Jesus taught. Not those first 4 books of the bible that were not yet written at all.

You are CO CREATING SONS OF THE FATHER.

Now why do I call Jesus Michael of Nebadon.. because the CREATOR SON came to this world by incarnation to clean up a big big mess and out of his love for all beings and in particular love for those of the Lucifer Rebellion on this planet.

As A Creator Son Michael creates the angelic beings he needs to run his universe. Lucifer could NOT do that. Most of the time he participates with Mother Nebadon in that.. but some beings are created by Michael alone and some created by Mother Nebadonia alone.

That the CREATOR SON incarnated here is a BIG HAIRY DEAL. ITS REALLY IMPORTANT. This process was studied by all sorts of others.

Now every planet when its time for PEAVE receives a very high son.. from Paradise. All of them These are called Avonal Sons and their "parents" are the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit.

BUT in each local universe (currently 700,000 of them) the CREATOR SON visits just ONE of those planets as a bestowal son. So our universe will have 10 million about in the distant future but this PLANET will be the only Bestowal of OUR michael Son.

And something happened with this sorry place.. because you see. OUR MICHAEL has done something No Avonal since the beginning has done and neither has any other Creator Son. HE RETURNED. Earth is the first planet this has every happened on... EVER. And the creations is trillions and trillions and trillions of years old. Ponder that one in GREAT JOY.. its quite special. And you can bet a LOT of other beings are watching.

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Look..

I was Me before who I am today.
My name has always been the same through out all history.
Never changed.
The people made some spelling errors here and there, but that wasnt my doing.
I remained who I was.
My name is my name, forever, and always.

Why do you think Jesus would be any different?
His name is always the same, just as mine is.
Anyone claiming to be Me, is a liar.
Anyone claiming to be Jesus, is a liar.

We come as who we are.
In person.
In our Own Bodies.

I stand before you as who I Was, who I Am, and who I Will be for all Eternity.
Nothing to guess at.
Nothing to hide.
No name changes.
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So now what?
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This part of a quote from further up the page:

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


Surely Jesus had to have known this before he incarnated here? So why even come at that time.....he seemed to have spoken in parables which the people did not understand anyway? Seems like it was a waste of his time.
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This part of a quote from further up the page:

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


Surely Jesus had to have known this before he incarnated here? So why even come at that time.....he seemed to have spoken in parables which the people did not understand anyway? Seems like it was a waste of his time.
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The Urantia Book, in short, explains that jesus' life on earth (urantia) was created so that he may spread the word of God, but also to become a "master michael" through experience as a motal, born a babe, in order to become the complete sovereign over his universe

That might not help you much, but this is what the book says
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good question, haha
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Oh Candace, that wasn't a negative challenge. It was a challenge for you to hopefully see some of the negativity you bring out in many people here. Just look at the post you made yesterday in the radio frequency thread to some random person that really didn't deserve a response like that. Out of nowhere you said "DUMB POST". That was uncalled for and flat out rude. Was it a dumb post? I dont know. Maybe? But it was innocent enough and didn't call for that kind of attention. I dont want to muck up your thread, so we'll just have to agree to disagree because I already know that you won't agree with me and that's okay.

Serious question though...is spiritual assistance or guidance possible through dream state from higher beings working on this planet? The UB doesn't say a whole lot about dreams other than they are random thoughts our minds are processing while we sleep...or something to that effect. I don't necessarily believe that.

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This part of a quote from further up the page:

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


Surely Jesus had to have known this before he incarnated here? So why even come at that time.....he seemed to have spoken in parables which the people did not understand anyway? Seems like it was a waste of his time.
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This explains why he incarnated here, according to the UB:

119:0.2 (1308.2) The attribute of bestowal is inherent in the Paradise Sons of the Universal Father. In their desire to come close to the life experiences of their subordinate living creatures, the various orders of the Paradise Sons are reflecting the divine nature of their Paradise parents. The Eternal Son of the Paradise Trinity led the way in this practice, having seven times bestowed himself upon the seven circuits of Havona during the times of the ascension of Grandfanda and the first of the pilgrims from time and space. And the Eternal Son continues to bestow himself upon the local universes of space in the persons of his representatives, the Michael and Avonal Sons.

119:7.2 (1316.5) The public announcement that Michael had selected Urantia as the theater for his final bestowal was made shortly after we learned about the default of Adam and Eve. And thus, for more than thirty-five thousand years, your world occupied a very conspicuous place in the councils of the entire universe. There was no secrecy (aside from the incarnation mystery) connected with any step in the Urantia bestowal. From first to last, up to the final and triumphant return of Michael to Salvington as supreme Universe Sovereign, there was the fullest universe publicity of all that transpired on your small but highly honored world.

119:8.1 (1317.5) After Michael’s final and successful bestowal on Urantia he was not only accepted by the Ancients of Days as sovereign ruler of Nebadon, but he was also recognized by the Universal Father as the established director of the local universe of his own creation. Upon his return to Salvington this Michael, the Son of Man and the Son of God, was proclaimed the settled ruler of Nebadon. From Uversa came the eighth proclamation of Michael’s sovereignty, while from Paradise came the joint pronouncement of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son constituting this union of God and man sole head of the universe and directing the Union of Days stationed on Salvington to signify his intention of withdrawing to Paradise. The Faithfuls of Days on the constellation headquarters were also instructed to retire from the councils of the Most Highs. But Michael would not consent to the withdrawal of the Trinity Sons of counsel and co-operation. He assembled them on Salvington and personally requested them forever to remain on duty in Nebadon. They signified their desire to comply with this request to their directors on Paradise, and shortly thereafter there were issued those mandates of Paradise divorcement which forever attached these Sons of the central universe to the court of Michael of Nebadon.
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Look..

I was Me before who I am today.
My name has always been the same through out all history.
Never changed.
The people made some spelling errors here and there, but that wasnt my doing.
I remained who I was.
My name is my name, forever, and always.

Why do you think Jesus would be any different?
His name is always the same, just as mine is.
Anyone claiming to be Me, is a liar.
Anyone claiming to be Jesus, is a liar.

We come as who we are.
In person.
In our Own Bodies.

I stand before you as who I Was, who I Am, and who I Will be for all Eternity.
Nothing to guess at.
Nothing to hide.
No name changes.
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His name of Jesus was the name he told to be used.. He was Joshua ben Joseph for that INCARNATION ONLY. I have had 5 previous lives on this world and in each life my parents named me whatever they wanted pretty much far as I know.

MY REAL STEllAR NAME is ACTUALLY KAN DAEK. In the many lives of my early times before my merger with my Father Fragment .. I had whatever name my parents gave me.

The STELLAR NAME FOR The ASCENDENT SON IS NOT GIVEN until Fusion/Merger with the Father FRAGMENT. The ASCENDANT SON is a FAITH SON.. before that merger. The STELLAR name is NOT given until that merger.. because the ascendant son is NOT a FULL SON OF GOD until that merger... in which besides the long experience... the decision is able to be made to truly embark on the eternal journey.

Now my mother IN this life was pulsed to name me Candace.. She was guided to search in the dictionary for it. My earth father in this life refused to have Candace as my first name.. he wanted Margaret. So he won but allowed Candace to be my middle name. I never used Margaret as my name.. I was not called that as a child. the only place I have sort of used it was on another forum when I needed a change and I used "maggie".. kinda after a cute song by the way by Rod Stewart.

I was told that one day I would be amazed how close Candace was to my stellar name and then over two years ago.. I was told by my higher self I was KAN DAEK.

Now I grew up with my name Candace pronounced as Can DUH see. when I looked it up many years later in the dictionary... I also found it as Can DAY see. Which I liked a lot better and used that pronunciation.

Until KAN DAEK of course. Now if Candace is pronounced according to ENGLISH RULES.. the e at the end would be silent and it would make the "a" before it long A.

That would be one syllable not too. Turns out my name seeded to my mother was exactly the same except the website dictionary had it otherwise. One exception.... it is KAN DAEK said as two words.

Now because I am a stellar being having obtained Paradise... I needed to then switch to my stellar name usage...and I had to figure out to I wanted to spell it as two words... so I went to my private forum and we had a discussion with others.

As a stellar entity from Paradise.. I needed to be fully in capital letters. And I didn't want to use DAKE as the 2nc word.; because people on this world love to make such in Cake... Fake.. Bake.. gate...hate and so on and so forth.

So we all agreed to keep the LONG A and the silent E and just keep both.

Thus DAEK. Also I know for some reason K is a better choice for it can C.

So there you have it.. KAN DAEK. (DAEK as in DAKE otherwise). I didn't like DAKE anyway.

We don't speak English on Paradise.. WE use nearly completely telepathy but there is a language of light with alphabet sounds used there. And we speak that mentally but I can be written.

So any of you who are created beings of angelic type do have an eternal name given when you are created.. But in you are an ascendant being of HUMAN origin you don't get it until fusion with your choice after long testing to be a REAL SON OF THE FATHER.

Now as to Christ Michael... that is NOT his full name and the shits of that time on this planet.. the name Christ couldn't be used anyway. On top of that the WORD CHRIST is not a last name .. it is a status of being. I AM ALSO A CHRIST because of my own attainment LEVEL.

Michael is not his name either... its a group he belongs too. The MICHAEL Sons are Created to become CREATOR SONS eventually. Its a CLASS. Its the same as the class or group of MIGHTY MESSENGERS I BELONG TOO. IT IS AN ATTAINMENT I MADE ALSO.

All the CREATOR SONS ARE MICHAELS. But each will have a personal name. The name of our Michael of Nebadon does start with Michael.. and it has ATON in it.. because always are the Michael Son which relates to the Father .

His NAME IS VERY VERY LONG. He gave it to one member of my team as to the sounds which that person wrote down as best he could in ENGLISH and it took a generous half page...

We often use Christ Michael ATON a since people on this world just love abbreviations.. its become CMA. And I have become KD.

I do NOT know what JOSHUA ben Joseph was chosen as the incarnate name. I should ask I suppose but I could care less.. probably having to do with some significant meaning to the peoples of those days.

ben Joseph the naming system.. Joshua son of Joseph. The name Jesus was never given.. Paul made that one up. I forget the meaning right now.. but it related to being a special person of God.

In the Phoenix Journals the returning Michael of Nebadon gave himself a name to use to disguise himself. He did NOT identify on purpose as the returning Creator Son.

That name he used is GYEORGOS CERES HATONN and he used GYEORGOS to simply mean GEORGE.. CERES means very high celestial and Hatonn has ATON hidden in it. In fact HATONN is pronounced ATON as the H is silent . ATON is pronounced with a LONG A A ton

Now I don't know if you have a stellar name. I don't know if you are angelic in origin or Human in origin. and I don't know how many lives you have lived have perhaps a different name every single time.

My name is actually more complex too and includes other titles as part of it. One part of my name/Title includes SANANDA for I am also a SANANDA. meaning more or less having obtained Paradise.

I will teach a bit more here on Jesus in another post.. because it will be important for those that don't know more detail.
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If Jesus has returned..
Why do you keep calling him Nebanon Michael or whatever?
Isnt that insulting him by calling him by the wrong name?
Personally, it would piss me off.
And I would be insulted greatly.

Some archangel named Michael, was supoosedly Jesus?
Is that the idea?

If Michael was soo great and defeated the Dragon, why is the Dragon still alive to this day?

Also..
What powers does your Michael friend have?
Shown to you, in person.
Can he make the Lips of God appear before your eyes?

And if Adam was God's first son, why isnt he the one called the Son of God?

Why does Urantia have the beginnings of Uranus within it?
Is it because Uranus is said to be a child of Earth?

And also, 1,000 years is only 1 day.
You realize this right?
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I did not fully answer everything in your post.. my reply got long and I didn't want to risk loosing it to a time out or a internet break.

Adam was not God's first Son. God the Fathers first "Son" is the Eternal Son. Beloved there are about 4 billion (I think.. have to check that old detail) WORLDS OF HEAVEN. And there are currently about 5.6 TRILLION EVOLUTIONARY WORLDS like this one. Thats a LOT OF SONS OF GOD ... there isn't a number big enough to express it. There was no first son of god on this world. This world has been colonized by others and every human is a son of god as are all the angelic beings.

There was as to the evolutionary process on this world a first couple out of the evolutionary process .... Nearly 1 million years ago they appeared out of the pre human evolution. There is a lovely story in the Urantia Book about the first two evolutionary humans OF this worlds evolution... these are the first that received a Father Fragment which the Urantia Book calls MOSTLY the Thought adjuster because of the advisory nature of it.

[link to www.urantia.org]

The above is the link to the FIRST HUMAN FAMILY . Its a fun read, lovely and although you might not understand some of the concepts or words in it... you will get an introduction to some that will help you later. Might be a perfect first chapter (called papers) in that book to read.

In fact because this is an experimental research world.. Human MIND appeared long before it was thought it would and caused some issues.. because we had not Son of God from Nebadon here yet that comes with the appearance of human mind on any world.

Enjoy the paper if you have no experience with the UB.. Its paper 63 ...It will teach you a great deal.. which might well prepare you to start other sections of it. I would actually advise against starting on the introduction and page 1.. most people put it down and use it as a paper weight and other such uses. The next one you might read after that is the 2 to 3 about the Lucifer Rebellion perhaps. Up to you. the book is available online at www.urantia.org in full and there are versions for just about every device available. You can put the whole thing on your computer and read off line. I pretty much advise at some point of getting the print book so you can thumb thru as needed and mark it all up. I got mine copy before I ever found the website.

As to the 1000 days God doesn't have a day... what the thousand days refers to.. is that a DAY in the Central Universe of Havona the home of the Trinity... is equal to about 1000 earth days. There are 1 billion constructed planets in the central universe and they orbit the Paradise isle in 7 orbits.. the largest orbit having more of these worlds than the one closest in. The standard time used in the Central Universe IS based on the orbiting time of the innermost circuit. Time is used in all sorts of ways for record keeping... and that is the standard there.

God the Father is the first being.. God the Eternal Son the 2nd being and The Father and Son collaborated to great the Infinite Spirit. Whiles these are beings.. they are not beings like us. The body of the Father is the entire Creation.

The Infinite Spirit is the EVOLUTIONARY MIND of the CREATION...plus other roles it has. The Eternal Son is that Spirit which draws ALL to the Central Universe.. and is also present everywhere. It in fact SURROUNDS YOU also. It also has other functions.

The Father is the source of all power.. which basically means ALL ENERGY everything... If a bomb explodes.. there is the Father in one of the roles thru matter . You have to beloved take off the BEARD... He does not have a body. He does not travel around the creation.. he is IN THE ENTIRE CREATION.

and a FRAGMENt of HIM INDWELLS YOUR MIND and that Fragment is YOUR PERSONAL FATHER who is never ever shared with another. HE IS YOUR GOD. YOU WILL BECOME ONE WITH YOUR FRAGMENT in Due time if you aren't already. Many on this world have no clue who they are and where they are... The BRAIN is a huge veil....

I hope this helps for the world has almost know real knowing of what "God" the Trinity is....and it all functions. Science will continue to reveal some of that but has only begun to see but a tiny bit. Math will almost reveal more by itself.

The entire CREATION is a MIND CREATION.. There is not anything that was not created by MIND.. your bible is a little.. well........ You would do better in your initial comprehension to think of GOD AS MIND. And in fact.. in the Phoenix Journals which I bought mention above.. HATONN who is Michael of Nebadon.. HATONN is actually the name of his form he uses... for clarity. has clearly stated GOD IS MIND.

We have so much to do.. don't you see? My role here as "ground creator of the 2nd coming Organization... over the next 1000 or so years IS to assist mankind to grow. I am not the only one.. don't make that assumption.. its a very large TEAM.

I a the PLANETARY CHRIST and I know this well shock you but its MY JOB TITLE. I am a Christ level being of attainment. Jesus will walk this world also at the right time.. he would be arrested if he did it now.. you see.. except he can disappear from site and thus not be arrested.

And with that I will have to tell another story some of you have not heard before.. but not yet. It doesn't concern me.. its around the Jesus incarnation.

I stated also in the other thread that I can describe somewhat how incarnation of Spirit beings takes place as we cannot ever be IN a meat suit... it would evaporate it. Some of you may have heard the term "silver cord".. that is part of that story.

My personal interest amongst many here is to make as clear as possible and demonstrate WHAT IS AN ASCENDANT HUMAN SON OF GOD.. to outline your future schooling and growth because I have been there and done that! I started as an ordinary human on another ordinary world of Nebadon.. not this world... and made my way to Paradise. It took me about 10 million years from my fusion with my inner Father... and I am now about 16 million years from that time.. so for about 6 million years I have been serving as a Mighty Messenger which has included going to many worlds under the command of the Ancients of Days of Orvonton... And there are a lot of Sons of God that trillions and trillions of years old.

Now those 16 million years are from my fusion... they do not include all the experiences before then...

I AM TO HELP YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHO YE BE and WHERE YOU CAN GO and the HEIGHTS TO WHICH YOU CAN GO.. Which is essentially endless..

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Oh Candace, that wasn't a negative challenge. It was a challenge for you to hopefully see some of the negativity you bring out in many people here. Just look at the post you made yesterday in the radio frequency thread to some random person that really didn't deserve a response like that. Out of nowhere you said "DUMB POST". That was uncalled for and flat out rude. Was it a dumb post? I dont know. Maybe? But it was innocent enough and didn't call for that kind of attention. I dont want to muck up your thread, so we'll just have to agree to disagree because I already know that you won't agree with me and that's okay.

Serious question though...is spiritual assistance or guidance possible through dream state from higher beings working on this planet? The UB doesn't say a whole lot about dreams other than they are random thoughts our minds are processing while we sleep...or something to that effect. I don't necessarily believe that.
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Please give me the link to that thread I did post in... because today I removed a whole bunch of threads I have posted in from that list here of threads being worked in if we have a membership... I didn't see a title that clued me to that thread. And I don't particularly want to search my posts right now.. I could still not find the right thread. hf Then I will comment....after I check it thru.
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I don't remember the name of the thread. I just remember that it was about RF signal distance in space. I didn't comment in it. Just a quick read that didn't go very far. Probably on page 5 by now. My point was that my intentions weren't to negatively challenge you, but rather challenge the negativity you draw to yourself here. I realize I can be brash. It doesn't really matter anyway. I'm more interested in the question I asked you in my last post.
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I cannot prevent negativity to my work. There are people no matter how sweet I might be that will run all over me because what I teach does not agree with what they believe. And some of it is generated by my on purpose enemies here who also find ways to destroy my work.

I used to work a bit "sweeter".. but it didn't work either you see and we are of shortened time and some people do have to get hit with a hammer so to speak before they will LOOK at something different. And LOOK THEY MUST... or they are going to hugely delay their own progress and that is one reason I will use a little hammer so to speak at times.

This world is so negative despite all the star seeds here.. that it would have tossed the population off already with that massive axis shift or even a nuclear holocaust could occur.

I must teach a bit about the genetic mind which is the source of "instinct" and how it controls this world in addition to the cultural training and experience. The genetic mind has existed since life was implanted on this world and it IS in fact the 'Matrix" that is used so much on the internet. It was not built outside of this world.. the inhabitants built it.. which of course included the dark prisoners put on this world.

I cannot reply to HOW I used DUMB if I cannot identify the post and I would rather continue as I am doing then spend time using the search feature in an attempt to find all my posts. For all I know the thread could have been deleted too and thus a search would not work.

The reason this planet has a TILT in the first place is because it is out of balance.... which is how most worlds work anyway until we can get them into light and life... Our world will one day be straight up and down.. no tilt... There goes the sky season pretty much though.... I don't think it will totally eliminate skiing.. it will just be harder to find places cold enough to snow as it does in winter now.

to speak truth don't remember posting in such a thread.. if I did it probably wasn't related to the thread topic.

I am getting off a bit... still have unfinished chores.. the community I live in gets an "inspection" next week and I have to clean up a bit around here... Lots of summer flowers are burning up from the NO RAIN... despite the water I put on the stuff and its fall and an early fall at that.. I had surgery on my shoulder.. really big surgery and that limited my yard work for a time... A nice fellow came by yesterday and trimmed all near the sidewalk...

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I want to remind based on the previous thread I started this one from.. for those of you interested and following the OITC /ITC.... You can include comments and questions here also. Because the ITC is part of the 2nd Coming process and I am versed in it and carry all their material on my site. I know some of the members at the top personally in that organization. I may have posts in the other thread... I will check later on that.

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Just add to ignore list, problem solved.
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I'd like to not talk about our previous conversation anymore. It is proving counterproductive. This thread should not be about that.

You still did not address my question about dreams.
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I'd like to not talk about our previous conversation anymore. It is proving counterproductive. This thread should not be about that.

You still did not address my question about dreams.
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I have not read it all yet. I do more than post here and I had a pressing issue to resolve which is now down. Tomorrow is another day and I will look thru the thread to see what I have missed including yours.. I don't remember the dream question... I was focused on several issues... I skim some and so may have missed it.. and once I start writing I sometimes forget to address everything.. You will see I did that above.

Off for the night now...I need the time. hf But I am happy for this discussion here.
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Ok. Looking forward to it.
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I was posting in a Nephilim thread shortly ago and an copying my post here...because this is a UB thread. It may be useful to some here.


Regards the Nephilim I went to the Urantia Book where they are explained but I will have to add a bit to teaching to this paragraph for those not having read the UB.

77:2.2 (856.5) The physical members of the Prince’s staff had been constituted sex creatures for the purpose of participating in the plan of procreating offspring embodying the combined qualities of their special order united with those of the selected stock of the Andon tribes, and all of this was in anticipation of the subsequent appearance of Adam. The Life Carriers had planned a new type of mortal embracing the union of the conjoint offspring of the Prince’s staff with the first-generation offspring of Adam and Eve. They had thus projected a plan envisioning a new order of planetary creatures whom they hoped would become the teacher-rulers of human society. Such beings were designed for social sovereignty, not civil sovereignty. But since this project almost completely miscarried, we shall never know what an aristocracy of benign leadership and matchless culture Urantia was thus deprived of. For when the corporeal staff later reproduced, it was subsequent to the rebellion and after they had been deprived of their connection with the life currents of the system.


77:2.3 (856.6) The post rebellion era on Urantia witnessed many unusual happenings. A great civilization — the culture of Dalamatia — was going to pieces. “The Nephilim (Nodites) were on earth in those days, and when these sons of the gods went in to the daughters of men and they bore to them, their children were the ‘mighty men of old,’ the ‘men of renown.’” While hardly “sons of the gods,” the staff and their early descendants were so regarded by the evolutionary mortals of those distant days; even their stature came to be magnified by tradition. This, then, is the origin of the well-nigh universal folk tale of the gods who came down to earth and there with the daughters of men begot an ancient race of heroes. And all this legend became further confused with the race mixtures of the later appearing Adamites in the second garden.


The post rebellion era was after the Lucifer Rebellion. Urantia had a Planetary Prince named Caligastia who was the celestial GOVERNOR of this planet. Everything is governed. He went into the rebellion with Lucifer and was FIRED by Michael of Nebadon 2000 years ago when he was incarnated at Jesus.

Now the Prince came many many years before.. I can look that up.. and the Planetary Princes come usually with some humans from "Heaven" which arrive not by birth by by method of created body. They however do procreate with the local women.. the best of the races customarily as one way to upgrade the planetary humans.

You ones do not understand yet humans and your roles and what heaven is.. and this is not the thread for me do that in.

Satan is not the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD beloveds.. Caligastia WAS and with the coming of Jesus (Christ Michael of Nebadon) Caligastia was fired and Jesus temporarily became the Planetary Prince (Governor) of this world That role is NOW had by the Melchizedek who came at the time of Abraham who also wore a manufactured body and thus was not born of woman. Melchizedeks are an order of angelic beings of very high rank in our Local universe of Nebadon. The one who came to Abraham was Machiventa Melchizedek. I know Machiventa also and he visits to and from earth in that form from way back then at times.

This is the thread I copied this from

Thread: The Nephilim (The Fallen Angels)
Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.
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Re: URANTIA.. Christ Michael.. ITC
Is spiritual assistance or guidance possible through dream state from higher beings working on this planet? The UB doesn't say a whole lot about dreams other than they are random thoughts our minds are processing while we sleep...or something to that effect. I don't necessarily believe that.
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Is spiritual assistance or guidance possible through dream state from higher beings working on this planet? The UB doesn't say a whole lot about dreams other than they are random thoughts our minds are processing while we sleep...or something to that effect. I don't necessarily believe that.
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I defer to OP for her opinion, but according to UB it is probably your indwelling adjuster trying to lift you up. Joseph was advised in a powerful dream that had been directed by Gabriel, so there is reasonable precedent. Keep in mind that not every dream is God inspired, but I think most of us have had assistance from on high with respect to a lucid dream we remember upon awakening.