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URANTIA.. Christ Michael.. ITC

 
KAN DAEK  (OP)

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I want to place this brief quote on Mighty Messengers from the above paper 22.

22:2.1 (245.1) Mighty Messengers belong to the ascendant group of the Trinitized Sons. They are a class of perfected mortals who have been rebellion tested or otherwise equally proved as to their personal loyalty; all have passed through some definite test of universe allegiance. At some time in their Paradise ascent they stood firm and loyal in the face of the disloyalty of their superiors, and some did actively and loyally function in the places of such unfaithful leaders.

22:2.2 (245.2) With such personal records of fidelity and devotion, these ascending mortals pass on through Havona with the stream of the pilgrims of time, attain Paradise, graduate therefrom, and are mustered into the Corps of the Finality. Thereupon they are trinitized in the secret embrace of the Paradise Trinity and subsequently are commissioned to become associated with the Ancients of Days in the administration of the governments of the seven superuniverses.


I am associated as Planetary Christ at this time with the administration of the planet thru the ascension period and thru the 1000 years of celestial administration here.

Understand people from Paradise Are Christs.. its a label of attainment or being . I AM NOT JESUS but I serve WITH HIM in this celestial government of this planet for the CORRECTING TIME of 1000 years.. I AM "GROUND CREW"

PLANETARY CHRIST IS MY JOB DESCRIPTION for this period of time. I AM THE LEADER of this on the ground global organization.

After the Magnetic reversal.. the UN will be disbanded and WE RULE/Advise IN ITS PLACE.

Jesus/Christ Michael will have a ground facility in COLORADO with spiritual retreats and other activities yet to be revealed. WHILE HE IS A SPIRIT BEING..he is using a form that IS visible to people here... It is NOT fully human looking.. its a casper the ghost form too and he is 3 meters tall.. or a bit over 9 feet. He is stocky and bald. I have been on ship with him personally and he is usually aboard a ship called the PHOENIX. Back in 2005 when we started this project.. he was in fact in the skies in his craft over COLORADO and I had a lot of fun here pointing it out.

It is a craft that glows at night and looks sort of like Venus in the night sky.. as to the glow. Some nights he was not there.. and some nights he was . He remained off and on over this region for about 9 months and I saw many people iN MY OWN community who were watching the Craft.. it did not follow the normal pattern of Venus or Jupiter for example. He was not always in the same place or moving across the sky in a similar manner. I did have opportunity to tell some people what that WAS because it obviously NOT A STAR.

One night a neighbor boy.. in high school noticed it and he had a fairly nice telescope and he set it up in my yard . A whole bunch of kids showed up and he moved the craft around.. had it flash different lights as such for this audience. IT WAS FUN. On series of RED lights were where there were portals that other craft came into the ship. We saw one small light during that time that did just that.. seemed to go into the ship.

Now the strange thing.. is that the CRAFT was NO visible in the telescope. There was some sort of cloak on it.. but it was very visible to the eyes. Talk about a fun night but I kinda hoped the kids didn't share too much with their parents who might have caused some trouble.. but I never had any. There was one adult present who was worried about the kids going home and telling.

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Now if you ones have FOUND my website...because the linky here is corrupted on purpose...

In the left menu column select Leadership of the organization.. not sure I can even use the name . This will produce a list of posts. Then select CREATOR SON.

At the top is a popular painting that could be better, very new age. At the bottom is a black and white image which is the closest thing I could find on the internet to his APPROXIMATE appearance. But its ok enough. I tried to find it on google tonight but I was not successful searching so I couldn't link it here.

And tomorrow is another day. I posted several times in that thread listed in a post above about the Nephilim.

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I read the thread that preceded this one. People were so passionate.

Urantia was a channeled work. Although it contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. I'm always afraid that channeled readings originate from Tricksters.

The Bible also was channeled too. Yes, that's right. Those prophets channeled their readings from god. Although the Bible contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. Could be a Trickster.
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Thank you both for your answers. I have had telepathic or pre-cognative dreams for many years. They don't happen very often, but when they do, they are powerful and....different. My negative dreams stopped altogether a few years ago almost immediately after I received a dream containing some celestial guidance. It only happened twice, but they were unlike any dream I have ever experienced. I have never felt that they were actually dreams in the typical context. The first one was very strange mentally and the second one was just as strange visually. I will never forget them.
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I read the thread that preceded this one. People were so passionate.

Urantia was a channeled work. Although it contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. I'm always afraid that channeled readings originate from Tricksters.

The Bible also was channeled too. Yes, that's right. Those prophets channeled their readings from god. Although the Bible contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. Could be a Trickster.
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Have you read the history of the Urantia papers and William Sadler? Very interesting stuff.
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Thank you both for your answers. I have had telepathic or pre-cognative dreams for many years. They don't happen very often, but when they do, they are powerful and....different. My negative dreams stopped altogether a few years ago almost immediately after I received a dream containing some celestial guidance. It only happened twice, but they were unlike any dream I have ever experienced. I have never felt that they were actually dreams in the typical context. The first one was very strange mentally and the second one was just as strange visually. I will never forget them.
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They would not be "dreams" in that sense.. yes. Its a time when the consciousness is free of the body and daily routine and the contact can be made. Meditation practice will also increase these times in which the mind is clear and not dealing with the surroundings and thus information can come through but you are then alert to interact with it if appropriate consciously. My little story above on hearing my stellar name was one such incidence. Many years ago before I started my organization I had a much larger experience during meditation. Ii have learned sometimes when sudden fatigue overcomes me during the day I should actually go to my couch and enter the meditative state. That time long ago I had asked to "talk to God"... CM came thru in a long meditation very clearly with great deal on setting up this organization.

These are spiritual skills that need to be TAUGHT as to the need to learn. We hope with the places of worship of all types later to bring clerics to us or go to groups of them and work with where they need to go in their work with the parish. Always are advanced persons now incarnating and joining some of these to search for people within them that have a interest in developing themselves further and can be attracted to "private lessons".

Of course dream contents should be a cause of discussion on Sunday Mornings also.
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I read the thread that preceded this one. People were so passionate.

Urantia was a channeled work. Although it contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. I'm always afraid that channeled readings originate from Tricksters.

The Bible also was channeled too. Yes, that's right. Those prophets channeled their readings from god. Although the Bible contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. Could be a Trickster.
 Quoting: Spiritman 75318128


Have you read the history of the Urantia papers and William Sadler? Very interesting stuff.
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We do know the source and it should be obvious. I don't know if I rementioned that in this thread. It is NOT channeled in fact. Channeling implies being awake. The entire 2000+ pages came thru a "sleeping prophet" in a way like Edgar Cayce (and some very high beings came thru HIM in his time that way). One of those was Monjoronson... the magisterial Son who is here now, in fact here since about 1200 AD. Monjoronson not only came thru Edgar Cayce.. he was the one who who made the Urantia Book possible... He did not give the material however in it. But he conceived it.

The "secretary" who wrote it down.. wrote it down in shorthand .. no suitable recorders to use then. And of course it was then translated from the shorthand into hand written English papers. Of course the sleeping prophet was never revealed... there would have been murder or he would have been worshipped. You have to dig on the Urantia Book site to find some of the material. Also back around 2000 ad or do... there was a large lawsuit issue around who had the rights to control it. I used to follow that progress but I don't know if its available anymore at this site or elsewhere.

As to the Tricksters.. yes a lot of that and a lot of that in new age now. I can give an example with the Urantia GROUPS of now. and this example doesn't have anything to do with receiving. There have been groups in which there was a microphone placed in the meeting room so what the people we discussing could be heard. Then the leader who was supposed to be a channel to answer questions would receive answers in a piece in his ear. This is not all the case with the groups but the UB groups were infested in this way in some cases. The leaders are called TR's in the groups .. Transmission receivers. Some are extremely Good and principled...but charlatans affect almost everything in our lives.. like a lot of the MEDIA people,,, car salesmen and all of that.

New Age is infested. If some of you know of Nancy Tate... she was apparently ok at first and then her work changed. She got a new boyfriend in her life who was a controller. SHE ACTUALLY WROTE ONE DAY THAT SHE HAD STARTED HEARING NOISES OUTSIDE her House and knew it was time to "receive" and her work changed dramatically. I witnessed to that. I have pulled fully from reading at new ages sites as more and more happened.

I have had offers for people to help me or even live with me and I turn all of them down. That has stopped now.. but the first few years I got some. I will have nobody in my space of that sort. We lost one aspiring telepath over a relationship with a relative who lived close by to which he was close. He landed up getting a receiving CHIP as we call them behind his ear and the material became utterly bizarre .

There have always been these types in religions over the years who come into the churches and "play"... a few years ago I got an invitation by mail to a local church within walking distance of me.. this was after I stopped driving. It was a event that was to persist a couple times a week with a person who travelled doing this. Lots of MONEY into the brilliantly colored advertising that came. So I walked up to one of them.. it wasn't the first one and had a big OMG experience and left. The mind control indoctrination in Christianity is HEAVIER than ever now. These peoples over all have become useless who are attracted to this. We are STILL IN THE MIDDLE EAST for this reason.. because some jerk named GAWD wants it destroyed and thus we now have hurricanes the last few weeks off our shores and a 3rd coming JOSE.. which is hoped by those steering it to hit DC or New York. These hurricanes are war but the senders of them are NOT evil.. they are delivering karma. I don't know if people will put that one together or not. The other alternative is of course for the United States to be similarly bombed into destruction.
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all men are beloved by the Creator and are one with the same

the goal of the lower demiurgic/archontic whatever you want to call them influences was to make the cosmic message of Christ as limited and sectarian as possible...and they largely succeeded in that. Love you and God bless you
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Hi Ken Daek,
I wanted to ask you few questions:
could you update us on current Cabal situation?
are the Archons out of the game?
are their minions being arrested?
Is alway in order the fake alien invasion by the Cabal?
Thanks
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Candace, you have mentioned several times that the UB was published in 1955. For those who dont know, I think it's worthwhile to mention that the visitations began in 1907...! Very advanced concepts for the people of that time. There used to be a detailed history of these events by Larry Mullins for free online. A couple years ago he decided to publish and monetize the work. I can't seem to find the website anymore...though I am on my phone, which I find more difficult to research from.

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Candace, you have mentioned several times that the UB was published in 1955. For those who dont know, I think it's worthwhile to mention that the visitations began in 1907...! Very advanced concepts for the people of that time. There used to be a detailed history of these events by Larry Mullins for free online. A couple years ago he decided to publish and monetize the work. I can't seem to find the website anymore...though I am on my phone, which I find more difficult to research from.
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I am aware of this. Well the website may have been taken down.. I have NO idea on that..maybe try your computer that. I don't use my own phone much of the web unless the computer has an issue. and I work from home so and if I am out and about I want to be turned off from the net.. so I don't use unless I have troubles finding a place and need a location.

The concepts are still very advanced for people now. the world in general is not ready for the UB yet.. its US who are READY for it. But we need to get it out because some have not found it or been turned away because of persisting superstitions. I have heard that name.. but not sure if I have read him or not.

I tend to be very busy now.. such as this thread for example... plus working with this global team that I do less of this type of research. Long before I started this organization I keep track of the UB groups and their TRs which is when I discovered a bit of what I felt was infested fraud going on. But because I still have only 24 hours and must eat.. sleep... shop.. care for the gardens I have etc... time and the meat suit needs limit me. I eat a lot less than I used to but still I do have to eat . I would love to be free of that at least most of the time and the cooking.. which I have simplified a lot.. cooking was once a pleasurable hobby.

And I have a date with the sun RIGHT now which has come out from clouds and I need to get my gazing done before its too high.

As to Larry.. monetizing that may have been a poor decision.

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I used to read your website daily and post many of the messages on facebook. After months of that, everyone just assumed I was a gullible idiot because nothing in the messages ever happened. My experience with your presented material has taught me to be more discerning about what I allow myself to believe. I guess that's positive, so thank you for that.

I still like the UB and read it long before I found your site.
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Candace, I figured you knew that. I was just throwing it out there for those who don't. Its a good primer for those who may be a bit skeptical to even look at the UB.
I may still have a copy of the web pages on a backup drive somewhere. I'll have to look.
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Candace, I figured you knew that. I was just throwing it out there for those who don't. Its a good primer for those who may be a bit skeptical to even look at the UB.
I may still have a copy of the web pages on a backup drive somewhere. I'll have to look.
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Sure but they needed to know what I know.. right? and it provided opportunity to expand which is a GOOD thing and I thank you for doing so. hf

as to the fella you mentioned.. I don't know if he walked away or passed on or whatever. Right now there is a TEAM of people UNDER one I call THE JUDGE who ARE Judging a lot of business activities in particular... and businesses NOT in alignment are facing ISSUES big time.. those that are interested in only the financial aspects and profits and not the service. MY GUT is telling this person should NOT HAVE MONETIZED the information and that MIGHT be part of the issue with the website apparently gone. Now IF you have A copy of the web pages and its is genuinely NOT open anymore.. I might like a copy and we could put that in our LIBRARY on our site.. FREE.

I do not know for sure if we can just place a copy of the web pages.. or if we will have pick out the articles. My team member in charge of the Library and other such he assists me with.. will know HOW to do it.

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all men are beloved by the Creator and are one with the same

the goal of the lower demiurgic/archontic whatever you want to call them influences was to make the cosmic message of Christ as limited and sectarian as possible...and they largely succeeded in that. Love you and God bless you
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Yes they did and this is a special and different planet in its INTENT.. and the Lucifer rebellion folks and many others.. some 10 BILLION total were placed on this world not only to GROW UP.. but for those in the higher realms to get some very interesting experience.

This is thus a TRAINING world for Michael Sons and others... before they go on to organize their own creations in the future.. And of course the need which became obvious in due to take control of the planet by our Michael.. its his planet in that way.... and bring it under celestial rule because things got awfully out of hand. I just called them dark shits.. doesn't matter to me if they are walking on two legs in a meat suit or are invisible in the lower astral or otherwise.

What Christianity in the mind control of it at this time.. is these fallen beings are NOT THE UFOS.. THEY DO NOT FLY SPACE.. THEY ARE TOTALLY IMPRISONED HERE. The can be out of body or in body but they cannot leave and go fly around. The are NEVER above us in Craft OR in the spirit form.

Now a break before I have to attend a particular task. I will look quickly over this thread and see if I missed a post or two.. I still have to transfer some posts for that original thread here to stimulate some more conversation also. I see some dark ones have made a few additional posts in it. But I am not going to reply.

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I read the thread that preceded this one. People were so passionate.

Urantia was a channeled work. Although it contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. I'm always afraid that channeled readings originate from Tricksters.

The Bible also was channeled too. Yes, that's right. Those prophets channeled their readings from god. Although the Bible contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. Could be a Trickster.
 Quoting: Spiritman 75318128


Have you read the history of the Urantia papers and William Sadler? Very interesting stuff.
 Quoting: Some Guy


Would you be interested in posting some of those links here.. there is even some Bad stuff and I would NOT mind that for comparison and learning to discern.

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Candace, I figured you knew that. I was just throwing it out there for those who don't. Its a good primer for those who may be a bit skeptical to even look at the UB.
I may still have a copy of the web pages on a backup drive somewhere. I'll have to look.
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Sure but they needed to know what I know.. right? and it provided opportunity to expand which is a GOOD thing and I thank you for doing so. hf

as to the fella you mentioned.. I don't know if he walked away or passed on or whatever. Right now there is a TEAM of people UNDER one I call THE JUDGE who ARE Judging a lot of business activities in particular... and businesses NOT in alignment are facing ISSUES big time.. those that are interested in only the financial aspects and profits and not the service. MY GUT is telling this person should NOT HAVE MONETIZED the information and that MIGHT be part of the issue with the website apparently gone. Now IF you have A copy of the web pages and its is genuinely NOT open anymore.. I might like a copy and we could put that in our LIBRARY on our site.. FREE.

I do not know for sure if we can just place a copy of the web pages.. or if we will have pick out the articles. My team member in charge of the Library and other such he assists me with.. will know HOW to do it.
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Let me see if I can find it before.we jump to any conclusions. It may still be there. Understand that his website had been online since the mid 1990's - and it looked like it too. so we're talking close to twenty years or more. It was full of typos and bad paragraph structure. Having it cleaned up and published might not have necessarily been a bad thing. The website was a real mess from what I can remember. If the site is gone and I don't have a copy, the internet archive wayback machine will. Finding it, however, may be difficult.
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I read the thread that preceded this one. People were so passionate.

Urantia was a channeled work. Although it contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. I'm always afraid that channeled readings originate from Tricksters.

The Bible also was channeled too. Yes, that's right. Those prophets channeled their readings from god. Although the Bible contains a lot of good stuff we don't know the source. Could be a Trickster.
 Quoting: Spiritman 75318128


Have you read the history of the Urantia papers and William Sadler? Very interesting stuff.
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Would you be interested in posting some of those links here.. there is even some Bad stuff and I would NOT mind that for comparison and learning to discern.
 Quoting: KAN DAEK


Let me see what I can find this weekend. I dont think I have links to it anymore. Give me a few days to hunt it down.
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If you can find something you have and after reading it over if you think its valuable I will give you my email address by PM and you send the files thru that. But review and see if its worth the effort. You could also just copy paste anything interesting here too. It needs to be worth the effort as to a teaching tool.

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assorted replies I made

Jesus has returned and I know him personally. We are at this time setting the planet up for the 1000 year celestial rule.

If you expect Jesus to return on a cloud and rapture everyone.. you are sadly mistaken as to how it works. and of course that rapture belief is about Christians only... Islamists all get to go to hell.. remember.

Jesus and his full teams have been working since the return in 1954 from above. Mankind would MURDER him all over again otherwise.

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


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The UB denies the reincarnation beliefs on this planet.. one for publishing and the other is that angels who rebel CAN reincarnate and the Lucifer folks were placed on this planet as part of a deal for their "repentance" and so they could understand on a personal basis.. what the human is and goes thru from an inside experience of pretending to be humans.

The other.. as to the human being.. cannot reincarnate until there has been a resurrection. A lot of folks slept under the control of the fallen prince who would not allow folks to make their way to the mansion worlds in the normal manner because Calisgastia the Prince refused to allow it. That is why we have an astral realm because folks incarnating here could not leave either.. and thus the astral was created as a holding ground for them. The bible does talk about the release of the hostages but I forget the exact term used.


There is discussion of reincarnation and other topics. any of you who wish move your posts here.. I might move some that are part of the discussion. I posted this comment when it was time for me to get off last night.




I will be back later when I have time.
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Question...what do you mean exactly by Jesus has returned and I know him personally?

A voice of authority in the mind? Has he shown up in some recognizable form to you?

Please explain in detail...
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thank you for reposting that... because I can answer it better now. The return was in 1954.

I incarnated in a role to serve this process and have started the 2nd coming organization which you can find using google... (KAN DAEK or Candace and 2nd Coming should produce the website which so can't be posted here. )

I am the Ground HEAD of this global organization and I travel often to SHIP for meetings. Jesus has indeed visited me also down here. I communicate every day and am updated often by Him and others above from "heaven"... by method of telepathy which is always a 2 way conversion. I encruited to a variety of very high individuals in the Celestial government.

If you have read a bunch of the UB... you may know about the 7th Master Spirit of Orvonton who is directly involved in the decisions for this world. His name is Siraya and I am not the only person who has worked with him.

I am connected and serve under one of the 3 ancients of Days of Orvonton also and the name of that one Mantustia.

I am also concerning the ITC topic of this thread connected to a being from Orvonton who is calling himself David Righter on this world and who is embodied in the same way as the Melchizedek who came at the time of Abraham. I don't know if you are a UB reader I didn't check your User number for other posts.

David Righter is a celestial being who specializes in assisting really bad financial systems in big trouble on worlds such as this. He is here with his "consort" who is also wearing a high frequency flesh suit and they are reproductive and have 2 children now birthed by method of well.. Birth. He has a team of around 1000 ground crew directly assisting the process around the world. All are incarnate star seeds and highly experienced. Star Seeds can be incarnate angelic beings or ascendant humans from the higher realms.. and I do want to move some of my posts on incarnation and cover it further if there is interest. Jesus/Michael of Nebadon was incarnate. Actually every being is incarnate... for the spirit uses the meat or plant suit and not the other way ways. You are not a being having a soul.. you are a soul having a meat suit for whatever purpose you are one the planet. Always is this true. LIFE IS IN THE SPIRIT and NEVER IN THE ACTUAL plant suit or animal suit.

Also I work with the Personalized adjuster over URANTIA and have contacted with the one who indwelled Jesus when he was here and is now the Head Adjuster of Nebadon. And quite a few others. I am posting these little details to benefit the UB readers.

I Am a Mighty Messenger from Paradise. We are ascendant perfected beings from the Human races on the many worlds. I am rebellion tested which does have something to do with my assignment here. I also had the origin of my being IN Nebadon in a constellation called MANUELA. I met some others from there when I went to S Korea two years ago.

Our organization will guide and rule this world for 1000 years approximately. This world is TERRIBLY behind and to assist the Mother Gaia and those who are evolving on her.. we are in what Michael of Nebadon has labeled the Correcting time. The planet is very sadly in need of an ON THE GROUND CELESTIAL GOVERNMENT. Some who read the UB understand there were some failures in the usual way of doing things. What we are doing in this correcting time is NOT the usual way of doing things. After this time of Correction.. mankind should be able to then self govern on this world.. which is why the DUMB statement in the bible says Satan will be unleashed from the bottomless pit or however that story is told. that is a TERRIBLE RENDITION.

The direct contact between ME and Christ began in think about 1995 in which I was aware then that I was in direct contact with GOD .. but not fully aware of who that God was. I have always had inner contact however.. I just didn't always know who.. and much of the time that was my guardian angel.. My soul Mate Tom who is also a Mighty Messenger and will walk this planet. He's busy assisting Christ Michael UP there on craft and running duties and message to some of the other planets who entered the Lucifer Rebellion. Tom will walk by method of manufactured body and he already has it when needed in fact. We will be together often in the future.

I think this is a long enough post for now and thank you ever so much for asking. hfhfhf
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You mentioned that Jesus has been back since 1954 and that you got on board some time in the 90's. The world seems to be getting worse and not better though. Is there any sort of time frame for the changes so many are waiting for? It feels like things could just go on and on.
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Jesus has returned and I know him personally. We are at this time setting the planet up for the 1000 year celestial rule.

If you expect Jesus to return on a cloud and rapture everyone.. you are sadly mistaken as to how it works. and of course that rapture belief is about Christians only... Islamists all get to go to hell.. remember.

Jesus and his full teams have been working since the return in 1954 from above. Mankind would MURDER him all over again otherwise.

The planet was not ready at all for the Jesus incarnation 2000 years ago and only a tiny few are ready now for his return.. the planet is still very spiritually deprived.


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The UB denies the reincarnation beliefs on this planet.. one for publishing and the other is that angels who rebel CAN reincarnate and the Lucifer folks were placed on this planet as part of a deal for their "repentance" and so they could understand on a personal basis.. what the human is and goes thru from an inside experience of pretending to be humans.

The other.. as to the human being.. cannot reincarnate until there has been a resurrection. A lot of folks slept under the control of the fallen prince who would not allow folks to make their way to the mansion worlds in the normal manner because Calisgastia the Prince refused to allow it. That is why we have an astral realm because folks incarnating here could not leave either.. and thus the astral was created as a holding ground for them. The bible does talk about the release of the hostages but I forget the exact term used.


There is discussion of reincarnation and other topics. any of you who wish move your posts here.. I might move some that are part of the discussion. I posted this comment when it was time for me to get off last night.




I will be back later when I have time.
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Question...what do you mean exactly by Jesus has returned and I know him personally?

A voice of authority in the mind? Has he shown up in some recognizable form to you?

Please explain in detail...
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thank you for reposting that... because I can answer it better now. The return was in 1954.

I incarnated in a role to serve this process and have started the 2nd coming organization which you can find using google... (KAN DAEK or Candace and 2nd Coming should produce the website which so can't be posted here. )

I am the Ground HEAD of this global organization and I travel often to SHIP for meetings. Jesus has indeed visited me also down here. I communicate every day and am updated often by Him and others above from "heaven"... by method of telepathy which is always a 2 way conversion. I encruited to a variety of very high individuals in the Celestial government.

If you have read a bunch of the UB... you may know about the 7th Master Spirit of Orvonton who is directly involved in the decisions for this world. His name is Siraya and I am not the only person who has worked with him.

I am connected and serve under one of the 3 ancients of Days of Orvonton also and the name of that one Mantustia.

I am also concerning the ITC topic of this thread connected to a being from Orvonton who is calling himself David Righter on this world and who is embodied in the same way as the Melchizedek who came at the time of Abraham. I don't know if you are a UB reader I didn't check your User number for other posts.

David Righter is a celestial being who specializes in assisting really bad financial systems in big trouble on worlds such as this. He is here with his "consort" who is also wearing a high frequency flesh suit and they are reproductive and have 2 children now birthed by method of well.. Birth. He has a team of around 1000 ground crew directly assisting the process around the world. All are incarnate star seeds and highly experienced. Star Seeds can be incarnate angelic beings or ascendant humans from the higher realms.. and I do want to move some of my posts on incarnation and cover it further if there is interest. Jesus/Michael of Nebadon was incarnate. Actually every being is incarnate... for the spirit uses the meat or plant suit and not the other way ways. You are not a being having a soul.. you are a soul having a meat suit for whatever purpose you are one the planet. Always is this true. LIFE IS IN THE SPIRIT and NEVER IN THE ACTUAL plant suit or animal suit.

Also I work with the Personalized adjuster over URANTIA and have contacted with the one who indwelled Jesus when he was here and is now the Head Adjuster of Nebadon. And quite a few others. I am posting these little details to benefit the UB readers.

I Am a Mighty Messenger from Paradise. We are ascendant perfected beings from the Human races on the many worlds. I am rebellion tested which does have something to do with my assignment here. I also had the origin of my being IN Nebadon in a constellation called MANUELA. I met some others from there when I went to S Korea two years ago.

Our organization will guide and rule this world for 1000 years approximately. This world is TERRIBLY behind and to assist the Mother Gaia and those who are evolving on her.. we are in what Michael of Nebadon has labeled the Correcting time. The planet is very sadly in need of an ON THE GROUND CELESTIAL GOVERNMENT. Some who read the UB understand there were some failures in the usual way of doing things. What we are doing in this correcting time is NOT the usual way of doing things. After this time of Correction.. mankind should be able to then self govern on this world.. which is why the DUMB statement in the bible says Satan will be unleashed from the bottomless pit or however that story is told. that is a TERRIBLE RENDITION.

The direct contact between ME and Christ began in think about 1995 in which I was aware then that I was in direct contact with GOD .. but not fully aware of who that God was. I have always had inner contact however.. I just didn't always know who.. and much of the time that was my guardian angel.. My soul Mate Tom who is also a Mighty Messenger and will walk this planet. He's busy assisting Christ Michael UP there on craft and running duties and message to some of the other planets who entered the Lucifer Rebellion. Tom will walk by method of manufactured body and he already has it when needed in fact. We will be together often in the future.

I think this is a long enough post for now and thank you ever so much for asking. hfhfhf
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You mentioned that Jesus has been back since 1954 and that you got on board some time in the 90's. The world seems to be getting worse and not better though. Is there any sort of time frame for the changes so many are waiting for? It feels like things could just go on and on.
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It will go on and on until the collapse essentially of the genetic mind. However the body of Mother Gaia is in some serious trauma so it will NOT go on and on to collapse.. it could apart the planet and then here comes another asteroid belt. .there is that bible statement that is there was not interference mankind would destroy themselves to the last meat suit on the planet... That time does approach to the interceding and I think likely some where around the end of this year... it all depends on huge variables. Our Michael always if possible lets evil go to its natural end.. It is his way Evil then dies a natural death.

This planet is still under a great deal of mind control and tribalism. This mind control/dogma following as part of 4d HAS TO BE BROKEN.. or humans will not enter a state of Individual SOVEREIGNTY

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We had a little talk on my private forum on beaming up this morning and I suggested to look again at this cute film. I think it should be here.

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This one method used in evacuation. Its quite real and many here may occasionally also go to ship by the method. The craft has to be down in the atmosphere and it can beam people up while sleeping or on the john if necessary. Also if there was a mass evacuation.. huge numbers of these beam ships would come down and people would step into the beam. It feels a bit like riding an elevator.

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Ok I have covered a tad here that the UB was written for NOW to connect with the STAR SEEDS and help them seek their way out of any earth indoctrination. And then somewhat now and much more in the future.. the standard text on cosmology and the ascending human being.

So my question is.. who here are STAR SEED? You can be either DESCENDING in your origin.. (angelic created origin) or Advanced Ascended Human. Perfected Human if you hail from Paradise.

Lets see who shows up here and I do NOT want to dissuade from this thread those that are NOT very high star seed... you are welcome too.. you are still of the ascendant Human in its early stages. I want you to begin to perceive the GLORY POTENTIAL OF THE ETERNAL HUMAN LIFE>,

WHO ARE YOU "SOME GUY"? You apparently have taken some sincere interest in the book... so you are NOT a young human.

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Ok I have covered a tad here that the UB was written for NOW to connect with the STAR SEEDS and help them seek their way out of any earth indoctrination. And then somewhat now and much more in the future.. the standard text on cosmology and the ascending human being.

So my question is.. who here are STAR SEED? You can be either DESCENDING in your origin.. (angelic created origin) or Advanced Ascended Human. Perfected Human if you hail from Paradise.

Lets see who shows up here and I do NOT want to dissuade from this thread those that are NOT very high star seed... you are welcome too.. you are still of the ascendant Human in its early stages. I want you to begin to perceive the GLORY POTENTIAL OF THE ETERNAL HUMAN LIFE>,

WHO ARE YOU "SOME GUY"? You apparently have taken some sincere interest in the book... so you are NOT a young human.
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Who am I? I am just some guy trying to figure out who I really am. Another soul with amnesia just like so many others here. The main difference between me and most others is that I began to awaken at an early age and, believe it or not, I have the bible to thank for that. I started reading it out of curiosity when I was 12 or 13 (circa 1983), got a few hundred pages in and never opened it again. I knew something wasnt right and it didnt resonate with me at all. I still have it in a box of books though. I took a pretty hard line against all religion after that, but the UB has softened me on it a bit and gave me understanding of the need for religion during the early development of man and society.

I have always instinctively known that I wasnt a new soul. During my teen years I would lay in bed an feel like I could explode out of my body into a big ball of light. It never actually happened, obviously, but boy, the feeling was there...and intense. I've never felt like I belong on this planet. I dont know what I am, but I also dont try to pretend or convince myself that I am something special like a star seed, indigo, celestial, or any other new age buzz words that people try to attach to. I am what I am - whatever that is - and i'll accept it accordingly when that time comes. For all I know, I could have been part of the rebellion and will also accept that if it is the case. I also live my life with a raging dose of skepticism, so there's that.

The "experiences" i've had have neither been grand nor abundant, but just enough to keep me on the path without falling off, though I've stumbled and had setbacks. The most important thing I know is that I dont know. But I do know enough to listen closely to my intuition and let my higher self silently guide me.

In a nutshell, that is who I am. My journey has been largely walked alone. I keep it all very close to the vest, as it were. This is more than I've divulged at once to most people.
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Ok I have covered a tad here that the UB was written for NOW to connect with the STAR SEEDS and help them seek their way out of any earth indoctrination. And then somewhat now and much more in the future.. the standard text on cosmology and the ascending human being.

So my question is.. who here are STAR SEED? You can be either DESCENDING in your origin.. (angelic created origin) or Advanced Ascended Human. Perfected Human if you hail from Paradise.

Lets see who shows up here and I do NOT want to dissuade from this thread those that are NOT very high star seed... you are welcome too.. you are still of the ascendant Human in its early stages. I want you to begin to perceive the GLORY POTENTIAL OF THE ETERNAL HUMAN LIFE>,

WHO ARE YOU "SOME GUY"? You apparently have taken some sincere interest in the book... so you are NOT a young human.
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Who am I? I am just some guy trying to figure out who I really am. Another soul with amnesia just like so many others here. The main difference between me and most others is that I began to awaken at an early age and, believe it or not, I have the bible to thank for that. I started reading it out of curiosity when I was 12 or 13 (circa 1983), got a few hundred pages in and never opened it again. I knew something wasnt right and it didnt resonate with me at all. I still have it in a box of books though. I took a pretty hard line against all religion after that, but the UB has softened me on it a bit and gave me understanding of the need for religion during the early development of man and society.

I have always instinctively known that I wasnt a new soul. During my teen years I would lay in bed an feel like I could explode out of my body into a big ball of light. It never actually happened, obviously, but boy, the feeling was there...and intense. I've never felt like I belong on this planet. I dont know what I am, but I also dont try to pretend or convince myself that I am something special like a star seed, indigo, celestial, or any other new age buzz words that people try to attach to. I am what I am - whatever that is - and i'll accept it accordingly when that time comes. For all I know, I could have been part of the rebellion and will also accept that if it is the case. I also live my life with a raging dose of skepticism, so there's that.

The "experiences" i've had have neither been grand nor abundant, but just enough to keep me on the path without falling off, though I've stumbled and had setbacks. The most important thing I know is that I dont know. But I do know enough to listen closely to my intuition and let my higher self silently guide me.

In a nutshell, that is who I am. My journey has been largely walked alone. I keep it all very close to the vest, as it were. This is more than I've divulged at once to most people.
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If you have that kind of Higher Self you are a star seed... You could be of course anybody .. descending or ascending.. You could of course also be remembering being part of Lucifer rebellion but that still makes you star seed in a sense. I have been aware of some who are of that. And ready now to make their way back to their original estate. One did in fact and I heard from a friend who wrote me she had passed. I had given some advice to the one that passed from Raphael actually. And just after reading the email... the one that passed came to me and we had a really lovely conversation about how great it was to be back home etc.

Another I know is making a magnificent dedication to this world at this time.. the learning of being human is serving WELL. And this was of course some wonderful hope in placing them here in the first place... besides understanding the Human journey... they can serve Very well during this ascension period... You will not find judgement about them out of me!

did read the entire bible.. my senior year in high school about 52 years ago. It wasn't easy.. but I long before then I had a calling and I thought possibly within religion and both that and having to attend church cured me of serving thru the church.. but I did later investigate the education required to minister and NO WAY.

Until you are called perhaps to more service.. still stay within the leading of REAL YOU.. your higher self as much as possible.
Keep posting.. I like it.

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For those reading here and knowing not much about this book.. IT is a "cosmology " book.. about the cosmos and its members of government and a huge variety of beings.. including HUMAN.

This is a readable paper I think to most about the basic organization. It is from Paper 12.. that first number is the paper (chapter ) number.

The Universe of Universes

12:0.1 (128.1) THE immensity of the far-flung creation of the Universal Father is utterly beyond the grasp of finite imagination; the enormousness of the master universe staggers the concept of even my order of being. But the mortal mind can be taught much about the plan and arrangement of the universes; you can know something of their physical organization and marvelous administration; you may learn much about the various groups of intelligent beings who inhabit the seven superuniverses of time and the central universe of eternity.

12:0.2 (128.2) In principle, that is, in eternal potential, we conceive of material creation as being infinite because the Universal Father is actually infinite, but as we study and observe the total material creation, we know that at any given moment in time it is limited, although to your finite minds it is comparatively limitless, virtually boundless.

12:0.3 (128.3) We are convinced, from the study of physical law and from the observation of the starry realms, that the infinite Creator is not yet manifest in finality of cosmic expression, that much of the cosmic potential of the Infinite is still self-contained and unrevealed. To created beings the master universe might appear to be almost infinite, but it is far from finished; there are still physical limits to the material creation, and the experiential revelation of the eternal purpose is still in progress.

1. Space Levels of the Master Universe

12:1.1 (128.4) The universe of universes is not an infinite plane, a boundless cube, nor a limitless circle; it certainly has dimensions. The laws of physical organization and administration prove conclusively that the whole vast aggregation of force-energy and matter-power functions ultimately as a space unit, as an organized and co-ordinated whole. The observable behavior of the material creation constitutes evidence of a physical universe of definite limits. The final proof of both a circular and delimited universe is afforded by the, to us, well-known fact that all forms of basic energy ever swing around the curved path of the space levels of the master universe in obedience to the incessant and absolute pull of Paradise gravity.

12:1.2 (128.5) The successive space levels of the master universe constitute the major divisions of pervaded space total creation, organized and partially inhabited or yet to be organized and inhabited. If the master universe were not a series of elliptical space levels of lessened resistance to motion, alternating with zones of relative quiescence, we conceive that some of the cosmic energies would be observed to shoot off on an infinite range, off on a straight-line path into trackless space; but we never find force, energy, or matter thus behaving; ever they whirl, always swinging onward in the tracks of the great space circuits.

12:1.3 (129.1) Proceeding outward from Paradise through the horizontal extension of pervaded space, the master universe is existent in six concentric ellipses, the space levels encircling the central Isle:

12:1.4 (129.2) 1. The Central Universe Havona.

12:1.5 (129.3) 2. The Seven Superuniverses.

12:1.6 (129.4) 3. The First Outer Space Level.

12:1.7 (129.5) 4. The Second Outer Space Level.

12:1.8 (129.6) 5. The Third Outer Space Level.

12:1.9 (129.7) 6. The Fourth and Outermost Space Level.

12:1.10 (129.8) Havona, the central universe, is not a time creation; it is an eternal existence. This never-beginning, never-ending universe consists of one billion spheres of sublime perfection and is surrounded by the enormous dark gravity bodies. At the center of Havona is the stationary and absolutely stabilized Isle of Paradise, surrounded by its twenty-one satellites. Owing to the enormous encircling masses of the dark gravity bodies about the fringe of the central universe, the mass content of this central creation is far in excess of the total known mass of all seven sectors of the grand universe.

(KAN DAEK: HAVONA is actually the word source of our misspelled "Heaven." It is your destiny and one life on Earth will not get you there!)

12:1.11 (129.9) The Paradise-Havona System, the eternal universe encircling the eternal Isle, constitutes the perfect and eternal nucleus of the master universe; all seven of the superuniverses and all regions of outer space revolve in established orbits around the gigantic central aggregation of the Paradise satellites and the Havona spheres.

12:1.12 (129.10) The Seven Superuniverses are not primary physical organizations; nowhere do their boundaries divide a nebular family, neither do they cross a local universe, a prime creative unit. Each superuniverse is simply a geographic space clustering of approximately one seventh of the organized and partially inhabited post-Havona creation, and each is about equal in the number of local universes embraced and in the space encompassed. Nebadon, your local universe, is one of the newer creations in Orvonton, the seventh superuniverse.

12:1.13 (129.11) The Grand Universe is the present organized and inhabited creation. It consists of the seven superuniverses, with an aggregate evolutionary potential of around seven trillion inhabited planets, not to mention the eternal spheres of the central creation. But this tentative estimate takes no account of architectural administrative spheres, neither does it include the outlying groups of unorganized universes. The present ragged edge of the grand universe, its uneven and unfinished periphery, together with the tremendously unsettled condition of the whole astronomical plot, suggests to our star students that even the seven superuniverses are, as yet, uncompleted. As we move from within, from the divine center outward in any one direction, we do, eventually, come to the outer limits of the organized and inhabited creation; we come to the outer limits of the grand universe. And it is near this outer border, in a far-off corner of such a magnificent creation, that your local universe has its eventful existence.

12:1.14 (129.12) The Outer Space Levels. Far out in space, at an enormous distance from the seven inhabited superuniverses, there are assembling vast and unbelievably stupendous circuits of force and materializing energies. Between the energy circuits of the seven superuniverses and this gigantic outer belt of force activity, there is a space zone of comparative quiet, which varies in width but averages about four hundred thousand light-years. These space zones are free from star dust cosmic fog. Our students of these phenomena are in doubt as to the exact status of the space-forces existing in this zone of relative quiet which encircles the seven superuniverses. But about one-half million light-years beyond the periphery of the present grand universe we observe the beginnings of a zone of an unbelievable energy action which increases in volume and intensity for over twenty-five million light-years. These tremendous wheels of energizing forces are situated in the first outer space level, a continuous belt of cosmic activity encircling the whole of the known, organized, and inhabited creation.

12:1.15 (130.1) Still greater activities are taking place beyond these regions, for the Uversa physicists have detected early evidence of force manifestations more than fifty million light-years beyond the outermost ranges of the phenomena in the first outer space level. These activities undoubtedly presage the organization of the material creations of the second outer space level of the master universe.

12:1.16 (130.2) The central universe is the creation of eternity; the seven superuniverses are the creations of time; the four outer space levels are undoubtedly destined to eventuate-evolve the ultimacy of creation. And there are those who maintain that the Infinite can never attain full expression short of infinity; and therefore do they postulate an additional and unrevealed creation beyond the fourth and outermost space level, a possible ever-expanding, never-ending universe of infinity. In theory we do not know how to limit either the infinity of the Creator or the potential infinity of creation, but as it exists and is administered, we regard the master universe as having limitations, as being definitely delimited and bounded on its outer margins by open space.

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Concerning my post above on the basic organization of the creation from the UB.. there is an artist who was commissioned by the UB folks . While he has his own website.. I like this place he uses for the explanations. I have had EMAIL contact with Gary Tonge some years ago and he gave me personal permission to use his work.. particularly the Urantia paintings in my work. This man has considerable memory of all sorts of stuff in the creation in addition to the UB commission.

I see the site is reorganized a bit.. may take me time to find the image I wish to use that illustrates the above paper.


[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com (secure)]


Ok the loading crashed.. he is the MAP I want from his website.. The main image upper left shows the Central Universe.. the 7 superuniverses and the 4 outer space levels. Since WE are near the outer edge of the grand universe.. a lot of what our telescopes SEE besides our own superuniverse is the outer space ring.. particularly the first level that as adjacent to us. The MilkWay is the CORE GALAXY of Orvonton our superuniverse but is not the total of it.

[link to www.visionafar.com]

Edit finally got the deviate art site of his to load... This is the master universe map linky and it enlarges easily to view the various parts. There is detail about it at this link

[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com (secure)]

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Continuing with Gary Tonge and the basic master universe art and relating to the large post from the UB a couple posts above

[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com (secure)] This is PARADISE.. at the center of the Creation... Pretty much all power (space power etc) comes and goes from here.

There are 3 groups of 7 planet/spheres that orbit close to Paradise. The worlds of the Father.. the Son and the Spirit (7 each).

I AM FROM PARADISE. There are a whole bunch of us on (incarnate) this world from Paradise right now during this period of ascension. It is the DESTINY of all HUMAN SONS OF GOD who take the eternal Journey. WHICH I DID. Almost nobody on earth except UB readers has a concept of the glory ahead for the Human being.

[link to antifan-real.deviantart.com (secure)] This is the Central Universe of Havona.. showing Paradise Isle at the center and as best the artist could do to show 1 BILLION HUGE WORLDS arranged in 7 concentric circles. You who are HUMAN will traverse Havona before you attain Paradise Residence.

Other will too but I am focusing at this time on this UNKNOWN journey of the Human being.

You first transverse your Local Universe.. then your Superuniverse and then the Central Universe >Paradise... It takes a very long time.

But the basic story of Jesu standing at the right hand of the Father after his incarnation is what each of you who is successful WILL ALSO DO WHEN YOU OBTAIN PARADISE. I THERE FORE AND I KNOW IT PERSONALLY TO BE TRUE, STAND AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. hf THIS IS YOUR GLORIOUS DESTINY...

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The website is completely gone. It looks like he even gave up the domain name. It used to be located at freeurantia.org. Now it looks as if it's a domain placeholder or an advertisement circle jerk page that spiders internet search words. I also couldn't find the pages on the wayback machine either. The algorithm they use only takes snapshots of the front page unless you run a high traffic site. It's a bit of a popularity contest.

Something interesting I did find, was that Larry Mullens was very involved with disseminating info to UB readers during the Urantia Foundation legal proceedings during the 1990's(?). His website was soley dedicated to this info in the beginning. The history of the Urantia Papers was added later.

If find it odd that upon publishing his book, he decided to pull the website. Though, it could have been a financial burden at that time or myriad other reasons to not keep.it online. It could have even been part of a contract with the publisher for all we know. It's ironic that the history of free literature has a price on it. But without knowing the whys I'll refrain from passing judgment.

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