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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75218869 ![]() 09/19/2017 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. So you're saying Cassini caused Saturn to wobble? ![]() |
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duFontaine. User ID: 29412599 ![]() 09/19/2017 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. ![]() "Accept now that all you have seen from the day of your birth on the surface of the earth, to the present, are wonderful only because the finite mind of man is confused with fragments of evidence, that, from whatever direction we meet them, spring from an unreachable infinity." "There was a man who could create what could not be imagined. A temple so great you questioned if it was built with human hands. A man who built an idea into the greatest force the world has ever known. A world built from a single word. I care not for the folly of man but for the end of human contention." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75088615 ![]() 09/19/2017 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plutonium was kept in separate modules that were individually encased in titanium shells to prevent leakage should the rocket have crashed before leaving earth. Does Saturn have pressure densities high enough to fracture these cases and release the plutonium? How long would it take these modules to sink to the greatest depths of the atmosphere? Would they float on a layer of atmosphere so dense that they were too lite to sink any further? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75406701 ![]() 09/19/2017 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plutonium was kept in separate modules that were individually encased in titanium shells to prevent leakage should the rocket have crashed before leaving earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75088615 Does Saturn have pressure densities high enough to fracture these cases and release the plutonium? How long would it take these modules to sink to the greatest depths of the atmosphere? Would they float on a layer of atmosphere so dense that they were too lite to sink any further? Ever thought about the concept that this could have been done on purpose? |
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Hydra User ID: 75547705 ![]() 09/19/2017 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. That's because of the plutonium explosion - the explosion threw Saturn out of orbit. If you take another photo today, you will notice that it shifted again. SATURN IS OUT OF IT'S ORBIT AND IT WILL COLLIDE WITH EARTH ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2018 ![]() ![]() . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71002296 ![]() 09/19/2017 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. That's because of the plutonium explosion - the explosion threw Saturn out of orbit. If you take another photo today, you will notice that it shifted again. SATURN IS OUT OF IT'S ORBIT AND IT WILL COLLIDE WITH EARTH ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2018 ![]() ![]() . ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61064972 ![]() 09/19/2017 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can actually cause runaway fusion reactions in planets like Saturn and Jupiter by exploding a nuclear bomb at depth. Sound crazy? I'll tell you why. Because their atmospheres are so thick, impacting asteroids that manage to reach depth are already disrupting the density making fusion reactions impossible. Even planets the size of Earth impacting Jupiter disrupt the density as they are colliding. Material will become super heated, but not dense enough for fusion reactions. Fissile material for nuclear bombs are not naturally occurring materials in the entire universe. Plutonium is only made in reactors. Uranium 235 is only 0.7% of naturally occurring uranium 238. Even naturally occurring uranium doesn't exist as a pure metal. It comes in the form of oxides in ores. In the entire universe the maximum amount of naturally occurring uranium metal in any one location is probably smaller than a pea. The maximum amount of weapons grade uranium metal in any one location in the entire universe is probably less than 10 atoms. Hydrogen is so dense at the core of Jupiter that it is in a metallic state. This is surrounded by liquid state hydrogen. If you can get a capsule containing a nuclear bomb down to this region without crushing the capsule, and then detonating it, you will get a runaway fusion reaction in the core of Jupiter. Simply dropping a nuclear core into the planet, or a plutonium thermoelectric generator like on this spacecraft, will not do it. This will cause an atomic explosion too soon before reaching the necessary layer containing the super dense hydrogen for the proton-proton and subsequent reactions to take place. The best method would probably be to drop a sphere of plutonium 239 containing an internal neutron generator(beryllium-polonium urchin), with the plutonium sphere surrounded by a beryllium reflector and special dense materials such that the core is compressed only at depth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61064972 ![]() 09/19/2017 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can actually cause runaway fusion reactions in planets like Saturn and Jupiter by exploding a nuclear bomb at depth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61064972 Runaway? No, not without increasing the mass of either planet by many multiples of itself. Otherwise it will fizzle. You are wrong. It will not fizzle. Gravity and the mass of the outer layers acts as a tamper keeping the fusing material in a super dense state. The core will undergo a runaway fusion reaction. This process cannot be recreated even on Earth with a hydrogen bomb. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75550300 ![]() 09/19/2017 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. Nasa Lies! |
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The Gentle Astromut![]() Senior Forum Moderator 09/19/2017 09:44 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what Saturn now looks like! Quoting: The Gentle Astromut [link to h.dropcanvas.com] This was taken 24 hours after Cassini impacted Saturn! Just look at how bright it is! Compare this to what it looked like just before Cassini collided with and disintegrated into Saturn's atmosphere: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Ok, so it looks exactly the same, except it shifted a bit relative to the background stars. Sorry, Saturn is no brighter than it was before Cassini hit it. Both pictures were taken with a very powerful telescope and sensitive deep space camera, using a stack of 5x1 minute exposures. That is why Saturn is massively over-exposed. No, Saturn did not ignite into a star, despite all the fear mongering for years that said it would after Cassini plunged into its atmosphere due to the Plutonium powered RTG. Nasa Lies! Great, prove it's a lie then. ![]() |
The Gentle Astromut![]() Senior Forum Moderator 09/19/2017 09:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can actually cause runaway fusion reactions in planets like Saturn and Jupiter by exploding a nuclear bomb at depth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61064972 Runaway? No, not without increasing the mass of either planet by many multiples of itself. Otherwise it will fizzle. You are wrong. It will not fizzle. Gravity and the mass of the outer layers acts as a tamper keeping the fusing material in a super dense state. Wrong. Even Jupiter lacks the mass necessary to sustain hydrogen fusion. ![]() |
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