I don't think women really like men for sex, even if the guy is super handsome

OP, you need to make peace with the fact that a woman is the boss. Don't argue with this. Because if you do, you look like a person who is bashing a good product for which billions of people are willing to pay a premium. It's not the product — it's you.

To understand women better, you should try having sex with men. Try hooking up with another man for NSA sex. Once you will, it will actually be very nice; however, you will run into so many concerns on your end that you will eventually settle for a dildo. And this is what happens with women too. They love to fuck. They dream about fucking football teams and sucking all of the dicks they see. However, it's not trivial. They are worried for their safety and their well-being.

Only superficial snobs care about that garbage.

Well, as a man speaking, we could also say that we're superficial. Sure, we'll value a woman's personality, but do we really value it over her body? Let's face it, most of us guys see a beautiful woman we want to fuck her. Personality is generally a secondary requirement for us, BUT if she is a nice person, and not a bitch from hell, then even better. But the majority of men will put up with a beautiful [cheating] bitch from hell so long as he can have regular sex with her. We're very visual unless we've been dragged to the lowest depths of hell by a hot woman, then *maybe* we'd consider personality first (so long as she's still decent looking).

Girls love to give head.

Bullshit. Women in porn appear to love to give head because they are getting paid lots of money to perform, but in the real world, women only give head to keep a man around and sustain her social status. I'm not saying women hate giving head or turning out tricks, but they certainly don't crave to do these things -- strictly only to please the man.

There's the exception to the rule sometimes, but generally speaking, women don't think about fucking like men do, they daydream about a man providing them with the whole fairytale princess lifestyle, and being admired and envied by all other women.

OP's sampling is too small.

I'm ugly, and not terribly successful.
Certainly no one would consider me a social status trophy...

But my wife of 30 years is still eager to romp.

Maybe you're shopping in the wrong markets?
(bars, clubs, Tinder)

Try farmersonly.com
maybe you'll find something different lol.

(fucking idiot pup)

Well, that's pretty much what I stated in my OP, just worded differently. When you say women are into 'romance', again, it's more about getting the rich, handsome prince who can elevate her social status and make her feel like the most desirable princess around, and become the envy / admiration of all women beneath her. Not because she looks at him lustfully - as he does with her. She will just let him have his way (sexually) so long as he stays around and maintains her 'VIP' status.

ALL people are visual, whether they admit to it or not. Nobody wants to be in a long-term relationship with someone they are not physically attracted to. Yet, women are bitched at for valuing looks.

No, the majority of MEN would not put up with a beautiful, cheating girlfriend. GLP has a name for doormat men who would do that.

Not usually. It depends at the age of the woman too. Its also the interest in something that you dont have on your own. Saying girls are not horny the same way like men is not true.

Yes, but there's a difference in terms of visual value between a man and woman. Man sees woman, he wants to fuck her; woman sees handsome man, she wants him as a trophy to raise her social status.

And GLP might have a name for a doormat who puts up with being cucked, but that's just GLP - not the wide world as a whole. When a sexy beautiful woman snares a man with porn sex (during the honeymoon phase), the man is in seventh heaven and will do absolutely anything to remain there. The hot sexy female knows this, and will start manipulating him with the sex tap. 'Be nice to me (buy me what I want) or I'll tighten the sex tap and make you become thirsty and desperate'. It's this continued fear of losing the porn style sex that makes the guy become so easily cucked. This is why I say we can be superficial too, thus need to learn to control our dicks a little better.

Why wouldn't a woman crave doing something that she knows makes her man feel good?

Yes, but there's a difference in terms of visual value between a man and woman. Man sees woman, he wants to fuck her; woman sees handsome man, she wants him as a trophy to raise her social status.

And GLP might have a name for a doormat who puts up with being cucked, but that's just GLP - not the wide world as a whole. When a sexy beautiful woman snares a man with porn sex (during the honeymoon phase), the man is in seventh heaven and will do absolutely anything to remain there. The hot sexy female knows this, and will start manipulating him with the sex tap. 'Be nice to me (buy me what I want) or I'll tighten the sex tap and make you become thirsty and desperate'. It's this continued fear of losing the porn style sex that makes the guy become so easily cucked. This is why I say we can be superficial too, thus need to learn to control our dicks a little better.

Are you sure that you are an expert? If its just about the pleasure why do they need the woman? Men need trophies too.

Why wouldn't a woman crave doing something that she knows makes her man feel good?

No. You're delusional. A rich, unattractive doesn't see his beautiful wife (who's using him for his money) as a trophy/arm candy? Puhleeze.

It's beyond GLP. Do you really think a MAN is going to respect another man who stays in a relationship with a woman who's cheated on him? There is nothing manly about the man you're describing. He sounds nothing but weak.

I'm not delusional. I'm telling you, guys don't like their hot women being around other men in case the other high status guys try steal her away. They really don't give a fuck about being the envy of other guys, all they care about is being able to have hot sex with this hot woman for as long as time will allow OR so long as she remains hot.

I'm also telling you that many men will sacrifice their manhood for cuck status, and get mocked by other men, just so long as that hot woman doesn't leave him.

The only guys who wont put up with that shit are the 20% -- the rich, handsome Chads who can easily get another hot woman for sex. The other 80% of men will accept their fates as cucks.

You're young aren't you?

Insecure men don't want their women around other men, but secure men do not care. In fact, they LOVE knowing that they have what every man wants. It's called confidence and security. You're describing a man who has neither.

The man you're describing is not what I would consider a man. He's an insecure wimp who lets women walk all over him.

If your guy told you to lick the floor, would you do so because you personally desire to do it? Nope. You're pretty much doing something against your will because you know that if you don't, then he will be displeased and will seek out another woman who will do it. This results in a woman losing social status, luxury lifestyle, and another woman gaining it.

What you need to understand is, a guy looks at a pretty woman and he just wants to put his dick in her and pretty much everything sexual because he desires it - not because she demands it. It's what we're hormonally driven to do.

Well, if you're a straight red blooded male, then feminine women get you hard just looking at them. My point being, sex isn't a priority to a woman in the least bit. I'm not saying that's bad btw, I'm merely saying that women only get with a rich, handsome 'prince' to buy her shit and to get other women jealous. She only has sex with him to so she can keep him around and not lose status. If the rich handsome guy suddenly stops expressing an interest in sex with her, she will mercilessly seduce him to try keep him interested, but not because she is actually horny for him.

ALL people are visual, whether they admit to it or not. Nobody wants to be in a long-term relationship with someone they are not physically attracted to. Yet, women are bitched at for valuing looks.

No, the majority of MEN would not put up with a beautiful, cheating girlfriend. GLP has a name for doormat men who would do that.

Excuse me? No, many of us don't jump at rude, crude, uncaring, and selfish males knowing full well they'll be selfish in bed as well. I've turned down plenty of "rich, handsome guys."

Ever think many women still want boyfriends and real relationships? Someone to be there for us and hold us when we have a bad day?

Seriously, all we hear about is men moaning because they can't get laid, as well as trying to learn PUA tactics to give them a shot. Yet women don't do these things because they simply don't give a fuck about having sex with a man. Sure, a chick will get horny here and there, but instead of hooking up with a guy, they generally just get off with a vibrator and that's that.

I honestly think women only get with handsome men because they want to show them off to their female friends, to get them jealous, and feel like the most beautiful, desirable princess around. I mean, this is all women generally do, they log in to social media and upload constant selfies of themselves, the latest Mercedez her hubby bought her, or just showing off material possessions, so they get other women jealous.

Women just mainly seem to live to compete with other women, and really only hook up with a rich handsome man to show him off and show off the things he bought for her. The woman then rewards him with sex, but she generally doesn't desire it everyday unless she is intoxicated or unless she has become sex starved for a prolonged period.

Why do you also think that women who have lots of orbiters are not constantly banging them? They only give sex to the men who have the highest value -- the men they can use to get other females jealous.

Also notice, on any dating site, women always state on their profiles, 'No sex talk or no fuck buddies, I'm not that kind of girl, etc'. Men OTOH would be more than happy if a woman put it on the plate with NSA.

For instance, if a man sees a hot girl, he thinks, 'I'd love to pound her out so bad' because her form genuinely gets him aroused. But if a woman sees a handsome guy who is in great shape, she doesn't think about fucking him because she finds him sexually attractive / rich, rather she will seduce him only to try keep him around so she can flaunt her prize catch to her girlfriends.

It all tells us that sex isn't a priority to women at all; they just have sex to keep a dude around so he can buy her shit that will get other women jealous and so that she feels like the most desirable princess to, again, make other women jealous.

If a woman's entire modus operandi wasn't to be the top princess, then she wouldn't spend so much money nor countless hours in the mirror everyday artificially beautifying herself with makeup, and spending all of her days on faddy diets to remain slim.

That's pretty much it - a woman's entire existence mainly revolves around being the belle of the ball.

Girls love to give head.