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derpvader User ID: 71097017 United States 09/26/2017 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. If you earn less than $60,000 a year, respond to this thread, I just want to prove that most people are living on less than this amount per year to survive... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Less than 14,000 a year. That's what the wife and I live on. Gets a little tight sometimes but we are fairly comfortable. Have everything we need and a few things we want. Ramen!The other white meat.. |
mopar28m User ID: 66447809 United States 09/26/2017 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. Between my husband & I we make around $50k per year. In the early 90s we survived on less than $10k per year while some postal employees we knew were bitching about not being able to live on 50 grand a year. Last Edited by mopar28m on 09/26/2017 12:41 AM vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75542007 United States 09/26/2017 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. That's impossible everywhere in the US unless you are living with your family or receive other assistance. Are you living at home with your folks? me too................. I live on hardly nothing work my ass off to gather and grow what I need and over age 60, never did have a mom or dad and husband died at age 23 |
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glitchsta2013 User ID: 75179133 United States 09/26/2017 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. I make 45grand before taxes with a wife and 15month old. $1200 2 bedroom ghetto apartment in Colorado... Barely making it paycheck to paycheck... Feeling like another slave trapped in the system... Stuck and fucked to slave away to pay for rent food and gas... Slavery was never abolished just streamlined... The hardest working slaves are the ones that can choose their own job and trade their slave coupons for cool junk. I want to be freed from this matrix. glitchsta2013 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75542007 United States 09/26/2017 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. That's impossible everywhere in the US unless you are living with your family or receive other assistance. Are you living at home with your folks? me too................. I live on hardly nothing work my ass off to gather and grow what I need and over age 60, never did have a mom or dad and husband died at age 23 you do not need much money when you only go to town once or twice a year |
R... User ID: 72033323 Netherlands 09/26/2017 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. If you earn less than $60,000 a year, respond to this thread, I just want to prove that most people are living on less than this amount per year to survive... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Whaaaat?! That's about €4500 a month?! Without tax deduction? Dude, I have to live off €1200 a month while working 30hrs a week and doing totally fine! I don't know how expensive living in US is but if you think 60k is almost too little money you're totally insane. Last Edited by R... on 09/26/2017 12:50 AM "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play." - 'Wargames' "This world is more like a mystery, trapped in a conundrum, spun by a paradox." - AC1118155 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74854366 United States 09/26/2017 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. That's impossible everywhere in the US unless you are living with your family or receive other assistance. Are you living at home with your folks? It is not impossible I live on less than that, the rest is spending money Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75542007 Break it down for us, will you? I'm curious how you still have "spending money" on less than $500 a month. I'm sure many here would like to know this miracle budget you are on as well. |
R... User ID: 74877172 Netherlands 09/26/2017 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. . Last Edited by R... on 09/26/2017 12:50 AM "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play." - 'Wargames' "This world is more like a mystery, trapped in a conundrum, spun by a paradox." - AC1118155 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75582340 United Kingdom 09/26/2017 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. I make around $24k a month and live comfortably. The thing is though, the more you make the more you spend. My car payments alone are $1400 a month combined. $1.6M house, bigger utility bills, etc. Plus we like to travel and go out to expensive dinners. I have a lot of respect for the lower class and try to hire as many as I can to do odd jobs around the house or temp stuff at work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75542007 United States 09/26/2017 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74854366 That's impossible everywhere in the US unless you are living with your family or receive other assistance. Are you living at home with your folks? me too................. I live on hardly nothing work my ass off to gather and grow what I need and over age 60, never did have a mom or dad and husband died at age 23 you do not need much money when you only go to town once or twice a year the sandpoint nell, I survived the PNW as an orphan and widow |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74854366 United States 09/26/2017 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. I make 45grand before taxes with a wife and 15month old. $1200 2 bedroom ghetto apartment in Colorado... Barely making it paycheck to paycheck... Feeling like another slave trapped in the system... Stuck and fucked to slave away to pay for rent food and gas... Slavery was never abolished just streamlined... The hardest working slaves are the ones that can choose their own job and trade their slave coupons for cool junk. I want to be freed from this matrix. Quoting: glitchsta2013 You chose slavery when you decide to have a kid without the means to support a family. Don't blame anyone but yourself for you lack of financial planning. |
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DuckNCover User ID: 75550063 United States 09/26/2017 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. Don't have that much in savings, due to the prepping bug... There are certain areas of the country where you can live very inexpensively... The trick is to live in an expensive area and get your social security. Then move to the less expensive areas with a nice paycheck from Uncle Sam. It's also nice to have retirement savings too... In a fairly decent neighborhood, a few miles away, I've seen 1 bedroom houses rent for $300 - $400 per month plus utilities... |
R... User ID: 72033323 Netherlands 09/26/2017 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. If you earn less than $60,000 a year, respond to this thread, I just want to prove that most people are living on less than this amount per year to survive... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Less than 14,000 a year. That's what the wife and I live on. Gets a little tight sometimes but we are fairly comfortable. Have everything we need and a few things we want. That sounds sane. "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play." - 'Wargames' "This world is more like a mystery, trapped in a conundrum, spun by a paradox." - AC1118155 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75478750 Australia 09/26/2017 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. If you earn less than $60,000 a year, respond to this thread, I just want to prove that most people are living on less than this amount per year to survive... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Try it on 15k with children, over three quarters goes to a "land lords" fifth house who won the land on a raffle ticket at a pub [so none of that "we worked hard" bullshit, many sit on their arse in unneeded jobs. car salesmen can buy houses, reward for their dishonesty. no rewards from the system because i wont play slave. no need of it anyway. no want. the rest goes to electricity company, petroleum company and supermarket company when all we want to do is live a life on the land like any of the other animals living with nature. W dont have to like following the lifestyle that other [greedy] people want to. Oh thats right, we do, or they break family apart and lock you up, thus showing their true stripes the old and broken, drinking or eating to relieve their misery, living in "retirement" homes .... what a life hey, no wonder politics is needed to constantly remind you why it is all so necessary and great!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75542007 United States 09/26/2017 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. me too................. I live on hardly nothing work my ass off to gather and grow what I need and over age 60, never did have a mom or dad and husband died at age 23 you do not need much money when you only go to town once or twice a year the sandpoint nell, I survived the PNW as an orphan and widow my grandson is bam bam |
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SeoKungFu User ID: 75577646 Bulgaria 09/26/2017 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. Salary paycheck is for the slaves only ! Entrepreneur yo lazy asses ! "Have a vision of life that inspires you, then try every day to grow closer to the fulfillment of that vision." Deepak Chopra Cetrified Moran on a Divine Mission ! |
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Dee49 User ID: 70715749 United States 09/26/2017 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. Hell, I am going to go out on a limb here and tell you all my expenses: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Electricity - 400.00 a month. Car Insurance (3 vehicles full coverage) 350.00 a month. Food Costs $ 300.00 a month. House payment $ 450.00 a month. House Insurance $160.00 a Month. Medical Expenses $200.00 a month. Car Payments $400.00 a month for 2 vehicles Misc expenses $200.00 a month. Medical Insurance $200.00 a month family coverage. It takes every single penny me and my wife earn paying those expenses, and I we are living paycheck to paycheck. My wife earns maybe 1/2th of my income. I didn't include other expenses such as clothing expences, cellphones, etc. what's the retirement plan? look OP - I get it, between taxes, insurance, fees, licenses and all kinds of other crap, the government WANTS you just to break even. And then you die. Obamacare is about killing off those who no longer contribute to the coffers of the government. THIS is what government controlled health care is all about. THEY don't want you living past 60. You are a net drain on society. So work hard, just get by, pay the government the lions share of your income and then die. That is the lot for the majority of people today. And it will just get worse. Cancer is a type of "programed obsolesence" for the masses. But why are you begrudging those who have managed to break free of the rat race? It's not greedy to want to put away for your retirement or provide a little nest egg for your kids or make sure that you have enough squirreled away for your golden years. That's not greed, that's just smart. But at $65k/year if you control your expenses that you can control, you should be doing alright. I am NOT putting people down that have saved a nest egg for retirement, I am talking about people that earn excessive incomes of over $250-500K or more, if we, the majority of people are surving on less than 60-70K a year, then so can the rich earning 150-250K or more. Okay, I will bite. We make just over your top end of defining rich. Both my husband and I operate businesss that create jobs. We both have long hours, he more so than I. I hate his job because the toll it has taken on his health. His is definitely more mentally exhausting. I on the other hand have a lot of employees (>150) and a lot of headaches that come with it. We pay well over a $100,000 a year in state and federal taxes. This does not include property or any other taxation. We donate generously. We do not live check to check, but believe me we have in the past. But we also didn't get crazy, live in the same house for 17 years, kept it simple. But my desire is to chuck it all and live a minimalist lifestyle. I have wanted that for almost 10 years. But I feel the responsibility as an employer to all of my employees. You have to understand that if we create an even playing field where everyone makes the same you wouldn't have people like me that are willing to work and travel crazy hours to create businesses. It has came with huge family sacrifice. Money is not worth it and the way I am the more I have the more I give away. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74022222 United States 09/26/2017 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. Think of all these people earning TRIPLE or more your salary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 CEO's earning MILLIONS a year, etc. Do you really think they are better then the average human being on this planet? Yes, much better - higher IQ, better educated, better at dealing with people and working with them to get things done, better at speeches, conducting meetings, better at socializing, less lazy, less of a procrastinator, more organized, I could go on and on. Dude, if you're reading this ... that was one of the all-time greatest responses in the history of the internet. Classic! |
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Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States 09/26/2017 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Respond to this thread if you earn less than $60,000 a year and are surviving... I am doing a little experiment here to prove a point. I earn GROSS before taxes about $56,000 a year, and I am SURVIVING living paycheck to paycheck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127957 Agree, this is the norm. Where there has been losses of revenue and more so in non-urban locations it is ghosting areas out. Areas where agriculture was as well as other things. Inflation sets in over time and the basic necessity to keep areas basic needs, becomes no longer affordable to maintain it. Schools go bust and are shut down. Jobs are few and will not continue much longer. Everything vanishes. Why we today have places or areas where agriculture was piled up in and centralized in, while they ruin it and hold it hostage. What mistake to have piled such up in places like that and never developed of allowed it to be dispersed evenly. Urban allowed to decay and turn to hell holes while crippling the rural areas. Sinister as hell its self. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |