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why do tweakers always see shadow people???

 
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why do tweakers always see shadow people???
I know that users of any drug can have weird supernatural experiences or visions of the spirit world, but it seems like tweakers specifically see shadow people all the time. Any girl that I've dated who had a history of meth use talked about seeing shadow people in their room or following them.

I have never done meth personally but I have tried Adderral in the past and only once, my very first time taking any amphetamine, I sort of saw a shadow person standing a distance away in my peripherals. It sort of freaked me out but I can't imagine full on seeing shadow people all clearly.

Why would amphetamines cause this and if it is getting you all amped up, how would it lower your vibrations???
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
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Interesting!

Isn't there traditionally a class of angles who are just called "Watchers"??
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Lack of sleep.

You'll see them completely sober if you've been up a day or two at least.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
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Interesting!

Isn't there traditionally a class of angles who are just called "Watchers"??
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You must be thinking of a parallelagram...

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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
 Quoting: Cartel™


Interesting!

Isn't there traditionally a class of angles who are just called "Watchers"??
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maybe but she was regularly clothed, I think jeans.
It was a long time ago.
I'd see people at night down the street peeking out behind bushes.
I gave zero fucks and would march down there but it was an illusion those times.
Staying up more than 2 days makes you hallucinate I think.
Not proud to admit it, I'm not perfect.
Now I just stick to the green.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
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Was she pretty?
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
 Quoting: Cartel™


Interesting!

Isn't there traditionally a class of angles who are just called "Watchers"??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30671160


You must be thinking of a parallelagram...

[link to mathworld.wolfram.com]
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hahaha good one! Yes, I meant angels. Sorry, getting tired here myself. No shadow people though thankfully. I would never want to touch meth, I have insomnia as it is most nights.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
a long time ago when I did it (late 90's) I seen actual people, not sure if it was ghosts or what.
I'd actually be asking them who they were and what they were doing here.
This girl I seen was sitting with her knees up and had a notebook on her legs writing in it like this: [link to c8.alamy.com]

I always wondered if there are watchers we cant see documenting everything we do...

hiding
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Was she pretty?
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I dont think so, and I would consider her ugly if she was spying on me.
Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Personal/First hand descriptions put the problem at MULTIPLE/Joint reasons and some Not even tweak related.

Like I have some next to me but iv had problems with illusions Growing up all the way to being a young adult. Some Of the stupidest reasons my vision failed me was because a mix of perfectly placed dirty/scratched glasses, not sleeping before an early morning work shift, a terrible astigmatism and a history/current drug perceptual alteration plus the high from the morning cause my vision on the highway to fade between one eye bluing to the next every time it refocused. Luckily I have Highway hypnosis Naturally is one thing I find when my mind is elsewhere in times like these so unless shit is crucial I usually stay in the lines. Once I was off the highway I crashed into a car slowing for a red light. EVERYONE LIVED!


In detail personality traits like gullibility to let initial perception and assumption lead a mind into misdirection (common with anxiety). Often whats really there is like Some failure but logically misplaced dark outline out of the corner the vision that causes a double take. Then the later of the psychological creation of these sometimes going alot farther than just a small re-establishment of the surroundings. Next in cases often having more than a single factor, most of which are psychological sometimes forms of psychosis appear to cause what seem or even can be aspiration: Some made up by the mind to seem like they are here only to turn out to be 2 pot plants resembling who knows what; Some created in the mind subconsciously with sounds or other life-like quality's.

It happens to tweekers more because they often posses the traits that will personify the psychological side effects in the amp. the most violently

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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
But why is it usually amphetamine users? What about that drug specifically, as opposed to other drugs, causes the rift between our world and the shadow people world?

I think it is because meth came from Hitler and the Nazis and it is purely a Satanic drug with no natural usage outside of evil.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Its not so much the amphetamines, as its a consequence of sleep deprivation. Did tweek for a year off and on, had a few crazy shadow stories.

1. They are real and do interact with the living (those who are not high included)

2. Some are benevolent, most are not.

3. Usually occurs on day 3-4 or being on reduced sleep (talking 30 mins or so total for those days).

4. They stop when you get sleep and the process to reveal them resets.

5. Yes it was a stupid time in my life that served no purpose other than ruining a year.
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Went to a concert on MDMA last year then went home and did some al-lad. Craziest trip of my life. Was seeing shadow people, Victorian angel statues floating in the air, and a devil face on fire laughing at me.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Its not so much the amphetamines, as its a consequence of sleep deprivation. Did tweek for a year off and on, had a few crazy shadow stories.

1. They are real and do interact with the living (those who are not high included)

2. Some are benevolent, most are not.

3. Usually occurs on day 3-4 or being on reduced sleep (talking 30 mins or so total for those days).

4. They stop when you get sleep and the process to reveal them resets.

5. Yes it was a stupid time in my life that served no purpose other than ruining a year.
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6. Have seen them since but only on serious stress and lack of sleep moments when I was working varied late shifts.
So I do believe its more the sleep and less the tweek, though the tweek I do feel peels back the ability to see them faster.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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Dude!!!! I get that shit too! the muffled sounds of a conversation, I always called it a phone conversation that i could hear but couldn't make out the words. I mainly got that when I would try to sleep on a hydrocodone high.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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Dude!!!! I get that shit too! the muffled sounds of a conversation, I always called it a phone conversation that i could hear but couldn't make out the words. I mainly got that when I would try to sleep on a hydrocodone high.
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WTF!!!!!!
(Not drug use for me either)
We need a thread on this.
I hear it - on the night of the election it was so fucking loud it was impossible to sleep. I make out bits and pieces. Its like a radio playing conversation bits.
It is like I am literally picking up radio conversation.

I can honestly hear radar. I am one of "those" people. Its not a gift trust me.
I was constantly harassed by the sound of it when I lived literally ON TOP of an Air Field while deployed. I could specifically hear the "Scud Hunter" while outside and away from the generators running tent city.

I think its an ability to hear in radio frequency.
Maybe its the fillings in my teeth - who knows?
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
I have read that people that are losing eyesight will also see shadow people - for example those with macular degeneration will describe this phenomena. I wondered if the drug use effects visual areas of the brain or eyes?
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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This needs to be its own thread!! I have that too sometimes!!

It sounds like a very faint, barely audible radio in the head with conversation and sometimes very faint music. It sounds almost like old timey radio or something.

Time for a new thread!
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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They hide in frequencies riding on radio waves.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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This needs to be its own thread!! I have that too sometimes!!

It sounds like a very faint, barely audible radio in the head with conversation and sometimes very faint music. It sounds almost like old timey radio or something.

Time for a new thread!
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Made a specific thread about the topic here:

Thread: Does anyone ever hear like a faint "radio station" playing in their head sometimes?
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Lack of sleep.

You'll see them completely sober if you've been up a day or two at least.
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Perhaps, but don't imagine that they are only in your head. Simultaneous observations with multiple people and pets have happened to me - plenty of sleep and no drugs.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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It's just how it works for (on) me. It sounds like a radio station that I can't quite hear, it's not like "hearing" a song "in your head", it's like literally hearing a far away muffled radio.

Eventually that sensation/impression gives way more distinct "voices" but they are often not understandable, because they are as "faded" as the "radio sensation".

**sorry about the quote marks, but I have to because real conveyance of the experience doesn't quite work.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Im putting jolly ranchers all in that lean.
That means im throwing a wrench in your spokes.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Ive been seeing shadow spiders on and off since i was 18, not into drugs. If you do research you will know its widespread and its been happening all through recorded history. Hypnogogic hallucinations and sleep paralysis is very frightening. I would avoid blaming victims if i were you. Personally, i think its the veil thinning. I had a dream once where i told myself to squint my eyes and look at my periphery and they were always around. Just my 2 cents. Btw, my husband, an atheist, has seen them too. Same locations i've seen them.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
I know that users of any drug can have weird supernatural experiences or visions of the spirit world, but it seems like tweakers specifically see shadow people all the time. Any girl that I've dated who had a history of meth use talked about seeing shadow people in their room or following them.

I have never done meth personally but I have tried Adderral in the past and only once, my very first time taking any amphetamine, I sort of saw a shadow person standing a distance away in my peripherals. It sort of freaked me out but I can't imagine full on seeing shadow people all clearly.

Why would amphetamines cause this and if it is getting you all amped up, how would it lower your vibrations???
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
Stay awake for 3-4 days and you will see them too.

They arrive after the almost inaudible "radio station" sounds become distinct voices.

It's a very weird place to be.
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It's just how it works for (on) me. It sounds like a radio station that I can't quite hear, it's not like "hearing" a song "in your head", it's like literally hearing a far away muffled radio.

Eventually that sensation/impression gives way more distinct "voices" but they are often not understandable, because they are as "faded" as the "radio sensation".

**sorry about the quote marks, but I have to because real conveyance of the experience doesn't quite work.
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It's around then that the "shadow people" begin to appear at the periphery of my vision. They don't move around in front of me but lurk around "my edges". Just like the "radio/voices" thing, they stay at the precipice of my perception, but they are there none the less.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
They are always there. You don't need drugs to see them.
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Re: why do tweakers always see shadow people???
The effects of Meth cause one to not eat and sleep, spiritual people have fasted and used sleep deprivation. For 1000s of years, Meth is just putting you in a false spiritual state and changing your frequency , things like shadow people and lights burning out as well as obe and sleep paralysis can all be jump started with Meth. The sky is a bit different when you are deep into a binge as well





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