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Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth

 
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Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth

by John Kusumi

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Initially I preferred to keep silent about the 9/11 Truth Movement, to not be diverted from my issue. I've been associated with the China Support Network, being its founder, and in recent years, I give my speeches in that vein exclusively. That means, I have a cause and I don't need a spare cause, nor a soapbox, nor a reason to be known in the public discourse, where I've contributed since 1980. My 9/11 article is written, not oral; in any public appearance, I remain on the China issue. The article is volunteered and not sponsored; I simply think it fair to have the question, "What happened on 9/11?", and to have the indicated investigation that is genuine and impartial, rather than a whitewash. Read on, to where I suggest a role for Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly.

Recently, Rosie O'Donnell raised the issue of 9/11 Truth, questioning how one or more of the buildings fell in New York City on September 11, 2001. Also, actor Charlie Sheen has come out with his own questions and concerns about what happened that day, and we've learned that he will narrate an updated version of Loose Change, a documentary that questions the official story of 9/11. This led to mentions on television by Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, top conservative commentators who seem to have replaced George Will and Bob Novak. (Note to youngsters: The latter were leading conservative commentators in the post-Watergate period. What's Watergate? Check Wikipedia.)


I cannot be counted a fanatic on the issue of 9/11 truth. I do my share of writing, publishing, and speaking; and, but for one related blog post, this is my first article on the subject. The standard that I would like to uphold is truth, period -- something that all should care about, and that journalists in particular should be finicky to discern and record accurately. The field of journalism at least bills itself to be concerned about non-fiction and a first draft of history. I believe that non-fiction and truth are synonyms, and that to sweat these details ought to be right up the alley of U.S. journalists.

Imagine if you will a bumper sticker that says: "Pearl Harbor: Roosevelt Knew." In the 1940s, there were many very staunch, patriotic citizens, who likely had full faith in their President Roosevelt (FDR) and for whom our hypothetical bumper sticker may hurt, or sting deeply. The sticker could be rejected on the simple basis that it is alien to the world view, held by those observers, of FDR as an upright and above-board U.S. President. More recent research, however, has convinced many historians that the sticker is indeed accurate. I believe that even our mainstream commentators have allowed the same, so that we now have an accepted view of history, to wit that Roosevelt had foreknowledge of the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor. If so, then the truth behind Pearl Harbor becomes LIHOP -- Let It Happen On Purpose.

The above paragraph does NOT prove anything about 9/11. If people make bumper stickers saying, "9/11: Bush Knew," then they still must make their case. For those who assert provocatively, there is an onus or a burden of proof. Words are not "more true" on a bumper sticker, and "less true" elsewhere. The standard of proof is not in the placement of the words. However, I believe and would stand behind a bumper sticker that said: "Tiananmen Square: Bush Knew." (That refers to the elder President Bush, who gave a nod and a wink to Chinese leaders before their troops went to Tiananmen Square. Chinese leaders MIHOP -- Made It Happen On Purpose.)

For those who are toying with the possibilities, alternate explanations for 9/11 include (a.) "we were surprised -- they got one by us (totally innocent);" (b.) "we were warned, but we failed to connect the dots (totally incompetent);" (c.) LIHOP (partial inside job, partially sinister); and (d.) MIHOP (an inside job, totally sinister). The official explanation has already migrated, since the early days, from (a.) to (b.). Perhaps one reason why I've avoided 9/11 Truth as a topic is due to its parallel with rejecting the "Roosevelt knew of Pearl Harbor" thought, as above. Explanations (c.) and (d.) for 9/11 entail the culpability of someone in our own government. It is alien to the world view that the U.S. Government protects Americans. In this case, Americans were harmed by perpetrators who were clearly evil, and it is harsh -- indeed anguishing -- to contemplate the case if it were that the hand of evil was partly domestic. Culpability within our own government would make 9/11 the crime of the century.

I will not take up the job of re-iterating the case that's been made by the 9/11 Truth Movement. But, increasing numbers of questions have been uncovered, and the awareness of prior warnings, given to the U.S. government in advance, has increased. The number of warnings reported has risen since the early days -- the immediate aftermath of 9/11. This means that we know more now, than previously. For brevity, I'd care to focus on three points that I'll call, "Tip-off #1, Tip-off #2, and The Nub Of The Matter."

To me, Tip-off #1 is a point that I earlier blogged: "It seems ridiculously implausible that the FBI tracked down 19 mug shots of 19 hijackers, and got that to the news media the same day as the attacks! Again, without inside knowledge, but with general awareness of the working world, how it goes, and what's plausible -- I look at that, and I say to myself, 'prepared slide.'" Each airplane had more than five passengers. Full investigation took less than a day, and the FBI knew precisely who among the passengers was "in" and "out" of the conspiracy. This was reported with certitude the same day, and the official slide with the 19 men remains an enduring memory, seared in there without additions or deletions. (Where we might have expected a developing story, the slide did not change, although some of the hijackers were reported to be alive and well, still living in the Middle East.) The mere fact that the FBI had those 19 mug shots "tips off" their prior familiarity with these men.

Tip-off #2 is a recent point. In late February, 2007, the 9/11 Truth Movement released BBC video from 9/11, in which the BBC reported that building seven had collapsed IN ADVANCE. That is to say that the building was still standing while the BBC reported the demise of the building. The timing of their story was off. Half an hour later, the building came down and "got on the page." It seems that Aaron Brown over at CNN made a similar report, that the building was toast before it was in fact toast. 9/11 was certainly a day of "on the ground" events happening. But Tip-offs #1 and #2 each strongly suggest that 9/11 was also a day of news being spoonfed by the media. The early report of building seven collapsing (at BBC and CNN) was not from eyewitnesses on the ground. The faulty information had to come from somewhere (A prepared plan? A press release?) other than eyeballs on the scene. Where did the media get this information, and who was spoonfeeding it to them?

Let's move to the nub of the matter. Many in the 9/11 Truth Movement are screaming that controlled demolition brought the buildings down. The original designs and plans for the World Trade Center were meant to withstand a jetliner impact, although we can admit that the designs probably contemplated earlier planes and less jet fuel. Hence, I believe that the towers natively would have withstood impact from a circa 1970 Boeing 737, and that the real difference in the case of 9/11 was "all that jet fuel." The official explanation of 9/11 hinges on the idea that "all that jet fuel" brought the towers down. (And, in my view, the official explanation cannot explain the fall of building seven, which did not even have an airplane impact.)

What's true is this: jet fuel has a particular temperature at which it burns, and steel has a particular temperature at which it melts. These are empirically measurable, so there need not be different melting points for liberals, conservatives, mainstreamers, and "loony wack job internet conspiracy theorists." It is America's chronically-lame news media that is so quick to be so judgmental -- or at least, it was Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck who, on their shows, seemed to circle the wagons for "mainstream thinking" -- at the expense of others, who were the recipients for name-calling and ad hominem attacks. (Note to youngsters: Ad hominem or "to the man" attacks never prove anything. If person A says that "X is true," and then person B says "Yah well, A is a Communist," that does not prove that X is false. X will be true or false, independently of whether A is a Communist. Even Communists can say true things --so really, personal details about A are irrelevant to X.)

In their recent televised statements, O'Reilly and Beck "took sides," fulfilling their (God-given? Bush-given?) roles as defenders of "official truth." And, it seems to me, this taking of sides was in the absence of kicking the tires or full investigation. (An entire separate article could be made with the reservations about the 9/11 Commission.) If we actually cared to get to the bottom of 9/11, I believe that we would measure the temperature of burning jet fuel, and the melting point of structural steel. I've never done it personally, so perhaps I could still join Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck -- I do not know the outcome of the test that I propose. (Are there published specifications that state these two temperatures? Yes, but the 9/11 Truth Movement is where arguments have broken out over empirical data. One side or the other might warn me against trusting a high school chemistry book, so I am now too skeptical for any approach that cannot "show me." It remains true, for me, that seeing is believing.)

I want to see a test in which they try to melt steel with jet fuel. While I personally lack a handy supply of either, there are 50 State Governors who could order their National Guard to undertake this test (and, if Fox and CNN want to save their credibility, they could fund this test). A vat of jet fuel should be prepared, perhaps sunken into the ground as in a foundation or a back yard swimming pool. A steel girder meeting the same specifications as WTC columns should be placed across this vat. I don't require a re-creation of the towers; just one girder. For good measure, one could place a heavy weight like a wrecking ball atop the girder. Then simply ignite the vat and let the jet fuel burn. Show me that jet fuel can melt steel. Here, I have devolved the case to a test of an empirical nature with a boolean outcome: the test either will, or will not, melt the steel. If it will, then I will be more ready to believe the official story. If it will not, then "Houston, we have a problem," and a full explanation of 9/11 must then involve more effort to bring down the towers; more than merely the thought of letting the jet fuel burn to do its thing.

What's notable about America's news media has been its LACK of inquiry, curiosity, and skepticism. As one of the biggest atrocities against Americans on our own soil, 9/11 should logically be the MOST deserving of investigation, skepticism, and critical inquiry. O'Reilly and Beck share that "oh so certain" quality of the suave, sophisticated media announcers who read the news from Easy Street, while truth-seekers are derided for being "out of the mainstream." How sure are they, really? How will they react to my proposal of this test? Are they just smoothies who are putting one past the public? This test could tell us the answer, and for one more requirement: --I want it to be Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck who presses the button to ignite the jet fuel. Either the girder, or their credibility, will become toast.
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I sent this to a local news station today. Big news was a building fire, upper floors. The news man said that it wouldn't collapse like 9/11 because it wasn't caused by jet fuel ( kerosene ). I couldn't believe the lack of knowledge, and fired this off to the station.
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The WTC buildings did not come down because of jet fuel, kerosene. If they had, your camping lantern would melt, camping stoves would melt, and space heaters would melt.

The steel in the towers was treated in such a way that, as the 'shrubster' told me while construction was going on, the heat of the sun itself wouldn't melt these buildings. Also, that the buildings were
prewired for future possible demolition, because it would be too expensive to wire them up later. All they had to do was complete the charges before demolition.

It is time for the media to stop lying to us, whether due to political pressure, or because you haven't taken the time to learn about this for yourselves.

Here is a list of research resources to start you on your quest for truth and knowledge.

Before you report on 9/11, or make comparisons, it would be wise to take your blinders off, and see the facts for yourself.

[link to www.911blogger.com]

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.scholarsfor911truth.org]

[link to pilotsfor911truth.org]

Wow, that BBC is good. Psychic reporter giving details of WTC 7 collapse 23 minutes BEFORE it did.
[link to www.liveleak.com]


[link to www.911weknow.com]

Charlie Sheen [link to video.google.com]


[link to www.rense.com]

[link to www.cooperativeresearch.org]

[link to www.indiadaily.com]

Demolition comparisons
[link to www.youtube.com]

Where is the plane ? Fl.93- no plane here. Look for yourself.
Witnesses, reporters, saw no plane either.

[link to youtube.com]

[link to www.exodus2006.com] Pentagon hole, not caused by
a plane folks.
[link to www.youtube.com]

9/11 TIMELINE
[link to www.cooperativeresearch.org]


Y'all are welcome to use this, add some links, and work on your local stations, networks, representatives.
It's time to make these brainwashed people realize that a plane doesn't fly through a building without breaking it's wings on the outside. A round hole wasn't made by a commercial jet. And, a burning trash heap with a design carved out in advance does not an airplane crash make.
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"....It's time to make these brainwashed people realize that a plane doesn't fly through a building without breaking it's wings on the outside. A round hole wasn't made by a commercial jet. And, a burning trash heap with a design carved out in advance does not an airplane crash make..."

Well darn it, thats what I though all the way over here in OZ..we watched it Live on TV.

I have'nt view all the links, but thanks for all of them.

In my uneducated observation, I clearly remember when viewing the buildings fall to the ground with such speed ..'impossible..it only happened less than an hour ago..it is just not possible for such a structure to collapse that way from an aeroplane going into an area so high up'.

The other floors below, especially from say the 60th downwards...would in no way be affected so much for the building to collapse in such a way, in such a short time post the 'apparent planes' impact.

Then I remember thinking...the only way the buildings could have collapsed the way they did way by demolition.

And thats exactly what it looked like. Controlled demolition.

Common sense tells us all, there is no way planes could bring down those two buildings in the space of time they fell; and I know one thing for sure .. whoever is lying about it all, trust me, the truth will surface.
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When that Yankee player crashed his private plane into that apartment building, I was waiting for it to collapse to.
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Oh dear! You started off well but then completely lost your credibility by showing your membership of the goofy No-planes Society. You think a poor resolution, highly compressed video of TV footage is going to reveal all the details of holes made by a plane? You think the South Tower was a solid concrete building collision with which would snap off plane wings or stop entry of the plane? It was not. It was like a pencil going through chicken mesh. And your poor understanding of what you are seeing in a couple of videos makes you ignore all the amateur footage and witnesses that point towards REAL planes? Hilarious!
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It is good to see that so many are waking up to the reality I have faced through great adversity since that day, and still do.
I have been threatened, ridiculed, and generally shat upon by those who wished to discredit me, but I had 911 figured out on the afternoon of the day it happened, and the conclusion I reached almost alone at the time was that a faction withen our own government was involved and that 911 empowered this faction to overthrow the COnstitutional republic. When Bush was selected by the Supremem court as the winner of the last election, the republic died. It is up to the people (God bless the 2nd amendment!) to unseat this illigitamate and unrepresentative oppresor.

It seems that even though the majority of us want the case reoppened and the guilty brought to justice, but those in power who have the ability to bring the guilty to justice ARE the guilty. That is we are living under a criminal regime in Washington that has no resemblance to the ligitamate government of the Constitutional Republic, a government that serves the interests of international corporations internation globalist jew banksters as well as Israel.

According to my own informal polling, I have found that approximately 85% of the people in this country believe that 911 was an inside job, with participation from our own government.
This is up from 6% on 9/11/01.
We do not have a representaive government when only 2% of us are represented. This country is at the whim of jews, we are in captivity in our own country.

I simply do not find living under the rule of people who view me as inferior as a tenable situation, I would rather die fighting for justice.
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It is good to see that so many are waking up to the reality I have faced through great adversity since that day, and still do.
I have been threatened, ridiculed, and generally shat upon by those who wished to discredit me, but I had 911 figured out on the afternoon of the day it happened, and the conclusion I reached almost alone at the time was that a faction withen our own government was involved and that 911 empowered this faction to overthrow the COnstitutional republic. When Bush was selected by the Supremem court as the winner of the last election, the republic died. It is up to the people (God bless the 2nd amendment!) to unseat this illigitamate and unrepresentative oppresor.

It seems that even though the majority of us want the case reoppened and the guilty brought to justice, but those in power who have the ability to bring the guilty to justice ARE the guilty. That is we are living under a criminal regime in Washington that has no resemblance to the ligitamate government of the Constitutional Republic, a government that serves the interests of international corporations internation globalist jew banksters as well as Israel.

According to my own informal polling, I have found that approximately 85% of the people in this country believe that 911 was an inside job, with participation from our own government.
This is up from 6% on 9/11/01.
We do not have a representaive government when only 2% of us are represented. This country is at the whim of jews, we are in captivity in our own country.

I simply do not find living under the rule of people who view me as inferior as a tenable situation, I would rather die fighting for justice.
 Quoting: Interdimensional warrior 213149

*offers to nail you to a cross*
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*offers to nail you to a cross*
I am Mysterio, the granter of wishes
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No sir, you are a jackass, and you're not funny either.

Humor without intelligence is like a book without pages.
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*offers to nail you to a cross*
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No sir, you are a jackass, and you're not funny either.

Humor without intelligence is like a book without pages.
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Oh really, so wit and intelligence are the same thing?
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I can tell you now, those towers fell by demolition -- period.
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I can tell you now, those towers fell by demolition -- period.
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How can you be so absolute, were you there? No, you were not, just like we were not there when Rome fell, but based off the evidence and writings of the people of the time we can come to an overall understanding of what happened. Now based on evidence and writings of the people of the time being 9/11, the did fall due to demolition.........of airplanes.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
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Lots of good info on this page.

The smoking gun is the report 23 minutes early.


Anyone can see that is BS

The story is BS

Truth is that Japanese3 banks held leases on the floors that wer hit in one building annd Insurance companies in the other
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Lots of good info on this page.

The smoking gun is the report 23 minutes early.


Anyone can see that is BS

The story is BS

Truth is that Japanese3 banks held leases on the floors that wer hit in one building annd Insurance companies in the other
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One of my family friend's business was destroyed. He lost his daughter, she was manager of his shop. He is a good man and is forever broken over it. I know, he deserved because he was a Zionist American Pig, or whatever.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
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How can you be so absolute, were you there?
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Um, being an ex Military person -- I guess seeing demolitions many times over might just be the reason.

Also, G W's body language at the school gave it away.

His 'nodding' said...'Oh great to hear its happened...thanks for letting me know'.

A person who knew 'nothing' about the 911 happening would have 'reacted' far differently. Many independant body language experts would confirm this.

Then again...GW was looking for a reason to invade Iraq, come hell or high water, and to create support, then all you need to do is create an event such as 911 -- how stupid do those in charge think we are?
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How can you be so absolute, were you there?



Um, being an ex Military person -- I guess seeing demolitions many times over might just be the reason.

Also, G W's body language at the school gave it away.

His 'nodding' said...'Oh great to hear its happened...thanks for letting me know'.

A person who knew 'nothing' about the 911 happening would have 'reacted' far differently. Many independant body language experts would confirm this.

Then again...GW was looking for a reason to invade Iraq, come hell or high water, and to create support, then all you need to do is create an event such as 911 -- how stupid do those in charge think we are?
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they think we are very stupid, but that does not mean 9/11 was
an inside job.
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
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I am a retired Mechanical Engineer (BME U of MN 1961) who practiced as a
Professional Engineer in Minnesota for 27 years.

I have witnessed the implosion of two high rise concrete-steel buildings in
person. My first thought when I saw the first WTC tower collapse was,
"That is a controlled demolition". I had second thoughts when I realized
how much smoke and dust had been created. The demolitions I witnessed did
not have all that smoke and dust.

I have since learned that the original steel and rebar in those building
was coated with special type of corrosion inhibitor that required special
contractors and high security during the coating. It turns out that
coating was the plastic explosive C4 that the Navy Seals use to blow up
underwater steel and concrete barriers. It turns them to powder and naked
steel just like the 3 WTC buildings.

I heard that submarine pens and missile silos used this construction in
case an enemy had captured one of these facilities. They could be
destroyed with one coded phone call.

I called a fraternity brother, Theta Tau - the largest engineering
fraternity in the USA, who had done work on the missiles silos in N. and S.
Dakota during the 1960's. He affirmed that such construction was used in
building those missile silos so that they could be "pulled" with a coded
phone call.

Was there any mention of the use of C4 on the steel in any of the videos on
9-11?
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Look the fact is, many were not there to witness first hand accounts, and for that, we are to be thankful.

Many of us will never know the heartache and irreversible devastation that people went through and are still going through, or recovering from injury, still, physically, emotionally or mentally, directly involved with 911.

Never underestimate the power of darkness -- it does not want peace -- the character of evil is the opposite.

Mankind in high places of authority, with the intent to abuse such positions, are motivated by greed, those who hunger for the riches available only by plunder will stop at nothing -- the narcissist are like that.

The most sad reality is that innocent people died that day, lives were changed forever. To compensate those who lost so much is impossible; what figure does any one person's life amount to?

The wives, husbands, children, extended families, friends,
of those who endured such a tradgedy, and lost a loved one, there is no trophy for being part of such an historical tragic event. Only heartache, long days of 'if only' will invade those left behind.

It is only the arrogance of those, who believe they got away with it, are the same ones who believe God wasnt watching.

He was.
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One of my family friend's business was destroyed. He lost his daughter, she was manager of his shop. He is a good man and is forever broken over it. I know, he deserved because he was a Zionist American Pig, or whatever.
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if what you say is true I sympathize with you and your friend, sincerely.
What I am doing I am doing for the victims of 911, and make no error in judgement, we were all victims that wee not "in on it".
If what you say is true, then you should want an investigation reopened because the story we are told is so doubted by so many who know the science involved. That should be reason enough for you to band with them and myslef, not that you agree with them or me, but that you want to know conclusively , what REALLY happened.
I have carefully examined all the evidence and found none of it conflicts with a demolition and most if not all of it conflicts with the official story.
If you had the information I do and understood it, there would be no doubt in your mind that the WTC complex was destroyed by a carefully planned and executed contolled demolition, the charges planted by demolition experts posing as a cable installing contractor in the two weeks prior to 911. The witnesses to this "cable upgrade" are in the thousands, and no one to this day knows the name of the contractor! think about it, and then wether you like me ot not band together in a coalition of truth, nomatter what it mgith be or how it might destroy your perception of reality.
If you really are sincere, then you should have no objection to what i want, a full and open investigation where the facts are presented to the people. if you are not an engineer or knowledgable in the sciences, it is impossible to convince you when every source of information you have in the jewish mass media keeps beating the "arabs did it" drums.
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I am a retired Mechanical Engineer (BME U of MN 1961) who practiced as a
Professional Engineer in Minnesota for 27 years.
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I have since learned that the original steel and rebar in those building
was coated with special type of corrosion inhibitor that required special
contractors and high security during the coating. It turns out that
coating was the plastic explosive C4 that the Navy Seals use to blow up
underwater steel and concrete barriers. It turns them to powder and naked
steel just like the 3 WTC buildings.

I heard that submarine pens and missile silos used this construction in
case an enemy had captured one of these facilities. They could be
destroyed with one coded phone call.

I called a fraternity brother, Theta Tau - the largest engineering
fraternity in the USA, who had done work on the missiles silos in N. and S.
Dakota during the 1960's. He affirmed that such construction was used in
building those missile silos so that they could be "pulled" with a coded
phone call.

Was there any mention of the use of C4 on the steel in any of the videos on
9-11?
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WHAT!

This type of statement should be readily corroborated.
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Hummm . . .

Minimum 10 year shelf life under ideal conditions?

Not much else on this idea found yet.

[link to algoxy.com]

Big page, not well coded.

Maybe that's why I've not noticed this hypothesis before.
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03/29/2007 08:04 AM
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Pub-liar go away!
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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03/29/2007 08:35 AM
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Nice artile but you completely leave out the lack of Security of the command center (the Pentagon) of one of the strongest and greatest military complexes in the
World. Why weren't fighters scrambled before the Pentagon was hit? Why did it take sooooooo long to scramble any fighters? Why was our "National Security" you know the stuff all the talking heads, including G.W. Bush - village idiot, talk about all time? "National Security" isn't just an idean on paper and in minds, it should also be a physical thing? Everyone, from the President to Congressmen, responsible for "National Security" should be summarily dismissed in a courts martial and sent to prison for failing in their mission. These matters of security and security failures and the failures to scramble defense fighters is what makes me think 911 was an inside job. If not, it was an extremely pitiful performance and all involved should have been and still should be relieved.
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03/29/2007 08:58 AM
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when a government attacks it's own citizens in order to launch an ideological agenda, it is certainly no longer a "government of the people".

Considering that all current events, laws, wars, have been shaped by a false flag attack, the people have plenty to worry about.

That's why a lot of smart and wealthy people are leaving the US. The writing is on the wall.
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Re: Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
worshipworshipbushfingsheepsheepdynamite
still the only WMD on the planet
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03/29/2007 09:06 AM
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That's why a lot of smart and wealthy people are leaving the US. The writing is on the wall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194557


nice… instead of defending that which has made them 'wealthy', they flee. Cowards.
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bump
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03/29/2007 10:12 AM
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That's why a lot of smart and wealthy people are leaving the US. The writing is on the wall.


nice… instead of defending that which has made them 'wealthy', they flee. Cowards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 215979


no, they're smart. This sort of thing has happened countless times in history. When a good regime goes bad, the smart leave because there is nothing you can do about it until after things get really, really bad.

Some recent examples of smart and wealthy leaving in droves before the countries had serious problems....

South Africa
Argentina
Soviet Union
Iraq

If you go more than 20 years back in hostory, you have a list as long as your arm.

The USA is done...the goose is cooked. The citizens and the government are both bankrupt, and goverment "by the people" is over. It isn't coming back in your lifetime. It's just a matter of time until the whole thing goes mad maxish and the smart and wealthy people know all this already so I'm not saying anyhing new here.
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03/29/2007 10:51 AM
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Re: Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
I can tell you now, those towers fell by demolition -- period.

How can you be so absolute, were you there? No, you were not, just like we were not there when Rome fell, but based off the evidence and writings of the people of the time we can come to an overall understanding of what happened. Now based on evidence and writings of the people of the time being 9/11, the did fall due to demolition.........of airplanes.
 Quoting: Publius



How can you be so absolute, were you there?

Evidence???
What evidence do you have to show us you are right?
All the evidence I see is that they are not telling us the truth, that is the REAL evidence. You obviously want to be blind to these FACTS. Give me some evidence kerosene can do what you think it did. Give me some evidence there were planes. Give me some evidence the ones who did it where arabs.

And while we are at it give me some evidence of WMD in Irak. Give me some evidence of biological weapons in Irak.

Should I go on?

Go have a look at the poll done on glp lately

POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]

[link to godlikeproductions.com]

I would say its a 96% yes

You are looking very dumb ye know...

Terrorists give me a break.
A real terrorist would have poisoned water supplies, throw a bom on a nuclear plant.... whatever to make a real impact instead of going for amewicas pride.

You know how much gold was supposed to be at the WTC 911?
Inquisitor
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03/29/2007 11:32 AM
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Re: Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
Great Post OP and some very interesting information on C4 explosives posted also.

Where is the gang of GLP shills today? Are they too busy with Iran war operations to be bothered with rebutting facts and significant data on 9/11 Truth?
Anonymous Coward
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03/29/2007 11:34 AM
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Never mind all of this shit.....BOMB IRAN....the people are getting bored with American Idol and need new TV shows...

Im moving to Chile
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03/29/2007 12:10 PM
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Re: Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
excellent post.





GLP