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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74841941 United States 10/07/2017 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the airplane fuel tanks, what caliber would have been needed to pierce the tanks 2,000 feet away? Quoting: dmhennen Something like a .338 Lapua or .50 BMG At that distance a .308 would only make a dent, and a .223 would probably only take the paint off and leave a mark. As for the caliber used on the crowd, it had to be .223 I don't know if a bumpstock would work on a .308 AR |
TheGasMan II User ID: 71648857 United States 10/07/2017 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | .223 and .308. The tanks were not targeted. I think this is dis-info. 2 rounds are not what we call 'targeted'. EDIT: But if they were, it would depend on the tank type. Some of those tanks are double lined and some include fire protection. If they were double lined, as in two layers of steel, and fire proofed, they could be 3 inches thick. Last Edited by TheGasMan II on 10/07/2017 04:37 PM "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
TheGasMan II User ID: 71648857 United States 10/07/2017 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to time.com] I find this highly unlikely. I don't think a .223 or .308 could penetrate a half inch of steel at 2500 feet. "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74841941 United States 10/08/2017 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “One round penetrated Tank 202, which was partially filled with jet fuel,” the airport statement said. “A second round was found lodged within the same tank’s outer steel shell, and did not penetrate. This tank was subsequently evaluated by experts who found no evidence of smoke nor fire.” Quoting: TheGasMan II [link to time.com] I find this highly unlikely. I don't think a .223 or .308 could penetrate a half inch of steel at 2500 feet. ZERO chance of a .223 penetrating at that range. I would be highly doubtful of a .308 getting through either, but I guess it's not impossible. Also, the tanks were probably more like 1/4 inch as opposed to 1/2 inch. |
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TheGasMan II User ID: 71648857 United States 10/08/2017 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “One round penetrated Tank 202, which was partially filled with jet fuel,” the airport statement said. “A second round was found lodged within the same tank’s outer steel shell, and did not penetrate. This tank was subsequently evaluated by experts who found no evidence of smoke nor fire.” Quoting: TheGasMan II [link to time.com] I find this highly unlikely. I don't think a .223 or .308 could penetrate a half inch of steel at 2500 feet. ZERO chance of a .223 penetrating at that range. I would be highly doubtful of a .308 getting through either, but I guess it's not impossible. Also, the tanks were probably more like 1/4 inch as opposed to 1/2 inch. Each shell is 1/4th inch. They are normally double lined. But yeah, a .223 nor .308 would have penetrated that tank at that distance. So the story on the tanks is bullshit based on what we know, or a higher caliber of weapon was used than what we are being told about. Last Edited by TheGasMan II on 10/08/2017 01:35 AM "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45960366 United States 10/08/2017 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what caliber bullet is this? seems a kid at the concert took a round in the wallet [link to www.abc15.com] |
TheGasMan II User ID: 71648857 United States 10/08/2017 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what caliber bullet is this? Quoting: RegisteredToStopTheAds seems a kid at the concert took a round in the wallet [link to www.abc15.com] looks like .223. "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75366851 United States 10/08/2017 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To pierce those tanks, from that distance would have required a .50 cal round. IMO Quoting: dmhennen Yeah... Maybe a 30 ap round but I even doubt that... A high power rifle will go through 1/2 mild steel at close range like a hot knife through butter but I've never seen it penetrated by even a 44 mag pistol.... At the range he was shooting a 7.62 only has the valocity and energy of a 357 mag. revolver |
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Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 29304175 United States 10/08/2017 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the sound was of the m240 machine gun, which shoots the 7.62 NATO, pretty much same as .308 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74968382 Belt fed .308... Exactly what I've said from the beginning. There's no doubt that was one of the guns used. Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 10/08/2017 09:04 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75160590 United States 10/08/2017 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have we heard from the Medical Examiner as to what caliber was used on the dead and wounded victims? Quoting: dmhennen For the weapons experts out there, what caliber was used in the shootings? (I'm sure this will be different from what we are hearing from the media.) For the airplane fuel tanks, what caliber would have been needed to pierce the tanks 2,000 feet away? 338 Lupua, 418 Chyane, or 50 BMG.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75160590 United States 10/08/2017 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the airplane fuel tanks, what caliber would have been needed to pierce the tanks 2,000 feet away? Quoting: dmhennen Something like a .338 Lapua or .50 BMG At that distance a .308 would only make a dent, and a .223 would probably only take the paint off and leave a mark. As for the caliber used on the crowd, it had to be .223 I don't know if a bumpstock would work on a .308 AR or they used an AK 47 with bumpstock... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75160590 United States 10/08/2017 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what caliber bullet is this? Quoting: RegisteredToStopTheAds seems a kid at the concert took a round in the wallet [link to www.abc15.com] looks like .223. agree, probably 60-62 grain... |