I do believe Eve was forgiven when Jesus drew the line in the sand.

Let me clarify-Mary Magdalene.

So than let's just suppose that she was because she fits every criteria for me, and if that be so then the Great Marriage is for both Christ and his Bride, and for Adam and Eve, because they were never married.

Or were they? did Jesus actually Marry Mary, and we are truly living in the last days before the great white throne judgement?

I don't believe the Bible ever specifies the woman caught in adultery was Mary... just an FYI. Most simply assume it.

Could the two witnesses actually be Adam and Eve???

Yes.

Also, Jesus taught there is no marriage in heaven.

Isaiah 65 states the new heaven and the new earth clearly has childbearing though.

Jesus said he would make all things new, so maybe some of the things he taught on earth, such as no marriage in heaven, he reversed.

No one knows.

Most likely not. My best guess is Elijah and Moses, since they appeared on the mount of transfiguration to the left and right of Jesus and the plagues are one to one with Elijah and Moses' plagues and woes.


Pretty sure Michael the archangel is supposed to make an end times appearance as well.

If Jesus is marrying a woman, I always thought Psalm 45 was the best example of it.

Psalm 45[a]
For the director of music. To the tune of “Lilies.” Of the Sons of Korah. A maskil. A wedding song.
1 
My heart is stirred by a noble theme
    as I recite my verses for the king;
    my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.
2 
You are the most excellent of men
    and your lips have been anointed with grace,
    since God has blessed you forever.
3 
Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
    clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.
4 
In your majesty ride forth victoriously
    in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
    let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.
5 
Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies;
    let the nations fall beneath your feet.
6 
Your throne, O God,[c] will last for ever and ever;
    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 
You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
    by anointing you with the oil of joy.
8 
All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia;
    from palaces adorned with ivory
    the music of the strings makes you glad.
9 
Daughters of kings are among your honored women;
    at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir.
10 
Listen, daughter, and pay careful attention:
    Forget your people and your father’s house.
11 
Let the king be enthralled by your beauty;
    honor him, for he is your lord.
12 
The city of Tyre will come with a gift,[d]
    people of wealth will seek your favor.
13 
All glorious is the princess within her chamber;
    her gown is interwoven with gold.
14 
In embroidered garments she is led to the king;
    her virgin companions follow her—
    those brought to be with her.
15 
Led in with joy and gladness,
    they enter the palace of the king.
16 
Your sons will take the place of your fathers;
    you will make them princes throughout the land.
17 
I will perpetuate your memory through all generations;
    therefore the nations will praise you for ever and ever.

Mary isn't the second eve. Eve is the second eve (it's an archetype).

It's like some "king + queen" thing in the Spirit be very careful with it because it can cause you to fall. I understand the concept though, it's taking the "match pair" away from the system so you always focus on that one person and people are made in the "image" of you both. Don't agree with it but that's the story.

It's unbelievable all this stuff but real. If you're in spirit...pay attention to one person I suppose. Poster on the wall kind of stuff unless you want to see people that look like your enemies everywhere.

Yes but when she is told by Jesus to sin no more, and she was to walk away alive, then even if it wasn't Mary Magdalene it was still a broad statement at that in the manner of woman.

I believe that Eve was beguiled and did cause a disruption in the order of things, and yet by that act he was forgiving her of her sins and telling her to go, and sin no more. The Mary that was the first to see him risen was Mary Magdalene, and I think that it makes sense because he was the first to see her risen from a stricken state of 7 sins. 7 being a very key number because it is all sins that went out of her when she was beguiled and entered into man since.

She has to be, and She was Eve I do believe.

One of my favorite thank you:)

Neither Will Be Forgiven "Those Who Betrayed The Lord Will Wish They Was Never Born" Google It Marry Is The First To Die Eve Will Send So Much Time On Death Row She Gone Ask Them To Kill Her Because Of Adam She'll Be Freed They Gone Be Sent Back To The Garden Of Eden Which Is Some Where Between Israel And Iraq.

Darn it, sorry for the bold font, didn't mean to do it like that.


Like I said, Psalm 45 is one of the few scriptures in the Bible that could support the possibility of Jesus getting married to a woman... if possible.


Without that scripture it would be pretty hard to make the claim, as Revelation shows the bride of Christ is the heavenly city New Jerusalem.

It does say the bride wears fine linen which is the righteousness of the saints, so Paul's analogy of the church being the bride would be sufficient there.

Honestly who knows, the whole story is shrouded in mystery.

What we do know?

God and Jesus beat the devil and his demons. The saints and church live on, paradise is excellent.

He was not talking to any Mary at the time, go back and read it again.

I concur. I do not believe Mary was the second eve. A disciple of our Lord, yes. She was one of the few present at Jesus' crucifixion.

In Heaven no, because it is a different Realm and a different way, but on earth we do need a King, and a Queen that rule side by side and are equal, and all things are made equal in the new earth.

so what happened to the body of Jesus when he ascended? well he is odviously keeping that body and is going to descend again as King of Earth with it, and then it will be the Father, Christ, and King
just as
Mother, Wisdom, and Mary

just my thoughts nothing more, I don't want to say anything that might not be true but at the same time I feel something very strong with this, and am trying to feel it out.

Sheesh

I hate people who are fags, or who say women aren't the primary purpose of God's plan. You can call it bitter, many call me sweet.

well then you didn't read into what I was trying to truly say, maybe you should go back and re-read, because that was one of the primary things that you should have seen is that yes indeed she is the primary and so is he.
there is no ONE better than the other, or less important.

well is nothing is new under our sun, and history repeats itself I would say that Mary was the second Eve. Atonement had to be made first with Adam because he was first created and then it would be Woman who was second and was forgiven Second, by Man and the Father.

Perhaps, I however believe Jesus is NOT the Father, though certain scriptures point to it such as Isaiah 9:6, and the fact Jesus calls himself the Alpha and Omega, a title for God.

However, Jesus' Revelation states God Almighty AND the Lamb will dwell with their people. God will be the light, and Jesus the Lamb will be the lamp.



There is also another huge mystery in the book of Revelation. In the letter to the seven churches there is an individual who will rule the nations with a rod of iron (something Jesus was supposed to do), he will be given the Bright Morning Star (Jesus' title), and he will sit down on the throne of God. It even says he will be given Jesus' new name.

Mistranslations of language can only go so far, almost any version of the Bible, be it NIV, NRSV, KJV, have very similar word structure. Important scriptures overlooked if you ask me.

Why the church has ignored these scriptures is far beyond me.


As I stated, many many mysteries. I hope they begin to unfold soon.

She had to be forgiven by the FAther, the Christ, and by Man. sorry I messed up.

Your language tells a different story than being "sweet". I call a spade a spade, and you need to chill out man. No need for anger like you dished out.

Nobody has all the answers, that's why God is a mystery. Nobody knows the mystery of God, not until the 7th trumpet blows when Jesus Christ overthrows the Kingdoms of this world and sets up God's Kingdom. That's when the mystery of God is complete according to the Word.

I believe he calls himself the Alpha and Omega, because once his Kingdom it set up it will be for everlasting AND from the beginning.

As I said, there is no scriptural evidence the woman caught committing adultery was Mary. None.

Many have assumed it.

For all we know, Mary Magdeline could have been a saint.

Like I said, the Word states God Almighty AND the Lamb will dwell with their people.

Two individuals.

That is CONCRETE.


You are right though, in the Old Testament there are instances where God says "I am the Alpha and Omega, besides me there is no God."

I'll say it again, mystery mystery mystery. No way of knowing until all things are fulfilled.

Very so but why put so much emphasis on the line that was drawn in the sand? There is so much to that one tiny part, that I think people are not getting and that was his way of showing that the enmity that was put between woman and man, was that line!!! and that it was taken away when he forgave a woman that was about to be stoned to death.

I know I know, but I have a brain and curiosity that won't stop, I have to know where my faith will come from you know what I mean?

Picture this....
I'm standing there and your standing if front of me, and someone comes in a draws a line in between us.

before there was just earth and nothing stopping us from existing within this piece of land that is between you and I, but with a line drawn in the middle of us, that gives and shows boundaries.
Now speak words that takes that boundary away and you have exactly what Jesus did.
He removed the sins of the woman, and out of that we have a woman that washes his feet with her hair and is the first to see his rise, and to me you have EVE. She and He became one again.