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Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread

 
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Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
(Edited because I had to find out what was blocking my thread from being posted, turns out it was the word athi*st)

I used to be a big hard cunt a**eist. I was using psychedelics, but I thought they were merely intellectual tools, not spiritual tools.

I had a spiritual mentor but I never understood his words. Then an event happened to me where I'm convinced I was interfered with by agents, and told to reashep supporterk--The Emperor's New Mind, by Roger Penrose--book on quantum consciousness by one of the most important physicists of this era.

A section of it particularly talks about a surgery, actually done on people, where you cut the brain in half lengthwise, along the corpus callosum, the area between the two hemispheres which deals with communication between the two.

When you cut it, each half becomes a perfectly functioning and completely independent entity. Your right half won't know what your left half is going to do next.

I held this information dormant in my mind for a while, and I was studying neuroscience at a university, where I learned that no neuroscientist has found a location or any neurological explanation for consciousness--and I was to learn that the reason was, there isn't one. Consciousness is a facet of the universe that is not the same as matter.

I realized it all doing psychedelics again with a good friend, and getting into mysticism and gnosticism with said friend. On a trip of 4-Aco-DMT, I had a sudden revelation--my friend and I were exactly like the two halves of the brain.

We perceive ourselves as one. But clearly--by PROOF--the brain is made up of at least those two consciousnesses. And each one is made of modules, which are made of neurons and other cells, which are made of proteins, which are made of molecules, which are made of atoms, which are made of subatomic particles, etc etc.

So when I am talking to one person, it MUST be like the two hemispheres. We're simply exchanging information as the two halves do. So there is a consciousness above any two people communicating, any three people,

all humans,

all life on Earth,

all *everything* on Earth,

the solar system,

the galaxy,

the supercluster,

All entities with things revolving around one another. Angular momentum is a soul--I'll save that one for later though.

The real point is, scientists say "We have the rules for how to predict things moving (laws of physics,) so there is no God!"

That makes NO sense. That's like a character in the Sims finding out some part of how the game works--say, that everything burns but the water in the pool. So the Sim knows a law about the universe around him that allows him to make predictions (that is what science is,) to know he can jump in the pool next time his house burns down.

But knowing this gives him NO insight on his reality! He doesn't know he's inside a computer game. Knowing laws of reality does NOT mean you know reasons and circumstances for reality.


So there exists a God whose mind is this universe, by NECESSITY. By SCIENCE. All scientists who are at**ists should burn their lab coats because they clearly don't know how to use logic.

Now that God isn't the ultimate God, clearly. This universe contains with it an infinity of infinity of...etc universes and it is contained by an infinity of infinity of...etc universes. Each universe is its own mind, each branch of related universes is its own mind, etc into infinity up and down. The ultimate God, the Monad, the pure self-completing All-Nothing, is outside of this--it does not factor into any type of causal or logical relations. It is the substrate for all being.

I could talk about how all religions indicate that the Monad split into two halves, an outward seeking exploratory (yang) consciousness mind particle (called, alternatively, Adonai, Abzu, Prakrti, Muspellheim, etc) and an inward seeking reunifying (yin) consciousness matter field (Tehom, Tiamat, Purusha, Niflheim, in the respective mythologies,) basically the combination of energy/matter (represented by vectors denoting quantities, hence why the symbol for "male" has an arrow pointing out of it--EXACTLY what a vector looks like) with space/time (represented by orthogonal axes, hence why the symbol for female has a 'plus sign' looking symbol in it--EXACTLY what orthogonal axes look like,) but I don't have enough Space, Time, or Energy (lol) to write out more now. But trust me, it does...Matter! (lol)

I have pages and pages of stuff like this. In my head I mean. If anyone is interested I always love to talk about God, consciousness, spirituality, mysticism, gnosticism, and how all this factors into acts on the world stage.

Peace be with y'all!

P.S. I'd always heard of GLP but never came here often. Found it recently but had the ISP ban thing so I actually paid because I can barely find ANYWHERE to talk about this stuff, or anything that goes against the mainstream narrative in general. The emotes here are perfect and the old school vibe is

Last Edited by Datura on 10/18/2017 01:45 PM
Chaos and Order,
Tiamat and Abzu.
In Love and War,
Blessed be me and you. ;)
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
Aw, someone here must be a fellow mystic!

God is before your eyes!
Chaos and Order,
Tiamat and Abzu.
In Love and War,
Blessed be me and you. ;)
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
No need for mysticism and dead spirits.

The Creator God is not the God of the dead but the living.

Acts 17:22

Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.


The gospel of Jesus Christ is simplicity.

Put away sin (transgression of Gods Law), and enter into life.
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
I was days away from fizzling away into history after losing my faith

I lost it because of science

I regained my faith because of science


I then started a website called GodvsAtheism dot com and sought to help the entire religious and non religious communities find a location to relate, study and evolve.


The Universe is a magical place, and for many reasons.
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
Practicality forces us to be subjective however.

We are here and it is all like this for a reason.

If I were to stand in front of a packed auditorium and explain the mysteries of the universe and the way everything works for a whole semester, then tested everyone on the subject matter and everyone failed and got 0%, would it have been important?
When the one great scorer comes to write against your name, he writes not that you won or lost but how you played the game.

The stance and stare of a wolf you find yourself alone with will tell you that he is prepared to treat you as you would treat him. Whether that comforts or frightens you, he has told you all you need know about both.
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
Look into NDEs.

You'll find many cases of people being able to observe, see, and hear things that are occuring many miles away from their physical body, and this info is then verified to be true after the experience.

In addition they sometimes go to heavenly realms and speak with a deceased relative, and find out info from the deceased, that's then later proven to be true.
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Re: Neuroscience made me believe in God--spirituality/mysticism thread
Practicality forces us to be subjective however.

We are here and it is all like this for a reason.

If I were to stand in front of a packed auditorium and explain the mysteries of the universe and the way everything works for a whole semester, then tested everyone on the subject matter and everyone failed and got 0%, would it have been important?
 Quoting: rockstar101


I see what you're saying--yes, the conscious universe is subjective,as all is mind. So I would give 100% to anyone who wrote "Reality is mind; it is all subjective"--in this sense, everyone getting a 0 would imply that they still treat science as a religion, not a tool.

Science is a wonderful thing, but it is ONLY a tool that uses evidence to make predictions--induction. Ontology--the nature of existence--is not best explored by science right now because our instruments don't measure the right things, and maybe never can. Yes there are things like the double slit experiment which show the ambiguous nature of reality, but they are adjuncts to intuition and deduction--the true tools for exploring the nature of God and existence.
Chaos and Order,
Tiamat and Abzu.
In Love and War,
Blessed be me and you. ;)





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