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Somali Parents’ Rational Concerns About Vaccine Safety

 
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By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

A note from the World Mercury Project Team:
In June of this year, at the invitation of the Rochester Minnesota Post-Bulletin, World Mercury Project Chairman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. submitted the following article for publication. The newspaper had invited Mr. Kennedy to submit an editorial after he complained about inaccuracies in the paper’s reports on the Somali measles outbreak.

While initially agreeing to publish the article, Post-Bulletin executive editor Jay Furst ultimately declined to run the piece. The paper made the decision in late September following almost four months of revisions, discussions and email exchanges with Mr. Kennedy. Furst explained that after five months of trying, the publication had been unable to find any public health official or pro-vaccine advocate willing to write a rebuttal or refute the facts outlined by Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Furst explained that Minnesota public health officials shown the article had made a generalized complaint that it was inaccurate, but that they refused to be specific about their claims or to provide citations. None of the many public health officials and vaccine advocates contacted by the newspaper were willing to go on record or to provide a rebuttal editorial. Nevertheless, Mr. Furst explained that because of the controversial nature of this issue, the editors felt that they could not run the article without a companion rebuttal piece.

Once again, public debate regarding the safety of the $46 billion vaccine industry has been muzzled. Mr. Kennedy says that Mr. Furst was genial, diligent, and professional in all their interactions, and genuinely apologetic about the outcome. According to a Minnesota Department of Health press release, the state’s measles outbreak was over by the end of August with 79 confirmed measles cases and no reported deaths or disabilities.

This winter, Minneapolis area health officials reported 76 measles cases among Somali-Americans. Mainstream media outlets, most recently, John Oliver in a 28 minute rant, vilified Somali-Americans for low vaccine rates and blamed Andrew Wakefield, MD and the so-called “anti-vaccine movement” for misleading Somalis about vaccine safety. Like most other journalists, Oliver never explained the story behind this story; the children of Minneapolis’s Somalis suffer the highest known rate of severe autism in the world—one in 32, according to University of Minnesota researchers.

Many Somalis believe that their children’s injuries are related to vaccines. “My perfectly healthy son started having seizures within minutes after his 18-month vaccines,” Abdulkadir Osman Hassan told me in June “and the seizures have never stopped.” Hassan’s boy, now 14, is severely autistic. “I quickly determined I was not alone.”

Somali parents had already started a support group and were sharing with each other the terrible reactions their children were having to vaccines. “We don’t have a word for autism in the Somali language,” explains Hassan, who has an Associate’s Degree in Childhood Development. “We never saw it in our country. We never heard of it. The adults in our community don’t have it, only our children.”

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rational ? Somalis ?

they don't exist

95% FGM rates in Somalia

nothing rationale about that


they are after the money and their kids are all fucked up as their parents are basically medieval grunts
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We love our Somalis
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Hillary's into creepy, weird, sick stuff man
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A handful of complications

Versus an epidemic


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And perhaps fine tune the process

An essential book to begin
Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
Author: Paul A. Offit
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A handful of complications

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Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
Author: Paul A. Offit
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Yeah. Trust Bayer. Mwahahahaaaa
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I thought you said Pirates.
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We love our Somalis
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they don't love you
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A handful of complications

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An essential book to begin
Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
Author: Paul A. Offit
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The handful of complications is for measles which is not a deadly disease. The epidemic is autism.
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False profit Offit makes millions annually promoting dangerous vaccines.

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Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
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The handful of complications is for measles which is not a deadly disease. The epidemic is autism.
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measles was deadly and still can be

and has ahigh incidence of significant sequelae
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A handful of complications

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Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
Author: Paul A. Offit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719483


The handful of complications is for measles which is not a deadly disease. The epidemic is autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55611245


measles was deadly and still can be

and has ahigh incidence of significant sequelae
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


No one has died from measles in the U.S. since 2003 however over 300 kids have died after getting the MMR shot.
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A handful of complications

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And perhaps fine tune the process

An essential book to begin
Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All
Author: Paul A. Offit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719483


The handful of complications is for measles which is not a deadly disease. The epidemic is autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55611245


measles was deadly and still can be

and has ahigh incidence of significant sequelae
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


No one has died from measles in the U.S. since 2003 however over 300 kids have died after getting the MMR shot.
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total bollocks

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please read all of this if you are interested in verifying how wrong you

there have been 11 deaths from acute measles since 2000 , the last being 2015

and there have been numerous deaths from SSPE - a common fatal late sequelae of measles infection from the last outbreak in the 90's


the reason the death and late sequelae rate is so low in the us is because of vaccination

measles is very infectious and early and late sequelae are actually quite common

if you advocate not herd vaccinating you will find this out ( again ) very quickly
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...

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642

 Quoting: mopar28m

total bollocks

[link to www.verywell.com (secure)]


please read all of this if you are interested in verifying how wrong you

there have been 11 deaths from acute measles since 2000 , the last being 2015

and there have been numerous deaths from SSPE - a common fatal late sequelae of measles infection from the last outbreak in the 90's


the reason the death and late sequelae rate is so low in the us is because of vaccination

measles is very infectious and early and late sequelae are actually quite common

if you advocate not herd vaccinating you will find this out ( again ) very quickly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


Herd Immunity is a myth.

[link to www.vaccinationcouncil.org]


Less than 50% of U.S. adults are up to date.

There is currently an outbreak of mumps at Syracuse, all of the sick are fully vaccinated.
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The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child.
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are complications due to measles due to a Vitamin A deficiency ?
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 Quoting: mopar28m

total bollocks

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please read all of this if you are interested in verifying how wrong you

there have been 11 deaths from acute measles since 2000 , the last being 2015

and there have been numerous deaths from SSPE - a common fatal late sequelae of measles infection from the last outbreak in the 90's


the reason the death and late sequelae rate is so low in the us is because of vaccination

measles is very infectious and early and late sequelae are actually quite common

if you advocate not herd vaccinating you will find this out ( again ) very quickly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


Herd Immunity is a myth.

[link to www.vaccinationcouncil.org]


Less than 50% of U.S. adults are up to date.

There is currently an outbreak of mumps at Syracuse, all of the sick are fully vaccinated.
 Quoting: mopar28m




again total bollocks
(this is actually quite funny - but sad =pathos )



btw where's small pox ?
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 Quoting: mopar28m

total bollocks

[link to www.verywell.com (secure)]


please read all of this if you are interested in verifying how wrong you

there have been 11 deaths from acute measles since 2000 , the last being 2015

and there have been numerous deaths from SSPE - a common fatal late sequelae of measles infection from the last outbreak in the 90's


the reason the death and late sequelae rate is so low in the us is because of vaccination

measles is very infectious and early and late sequelae are actually quite common

if you advocate not herd vaccinating you will find this out ( again ) very quickly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


Herd Immunity is a myth.

[link to www.vaccinationcouncil.org]


Less than 50% of U.S. adults are up to date.

There is currently an outbreak of mumps at Syracuse, all of the sick are fully vaccinated.
 Quoting: mopar28m




again total bollocks
(this is actually quite funny - but sad =pathos )



btw where's small pox ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75719642


They had to stop the small pox vaccine, because it was causing too much small pox.
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are complications due to measles due to a Vitamin A deficiency ?
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Exactly. In countries where there are high Vitamin A deficiencies, there are high measles deaths.
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