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MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?

 
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MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Ignoring Laura Loomers invoice showing a different room for Hodge, and sticking with the narrative being given...


Picture yourself as Paddock and the actions he would have to take to break out two windows and two breaches were needed, and one would have to be the door between Paddocks and Hodges room. The cart photo in front of Hodge's door shows that door was not breached, meaning they breached Paddocks room FIRST. Saw Paddock dead, or killed him, for what reason did they need to breach the INTERIOR door, and who broke the window in Hodge's room?
Why did LVMPD feel a need to breach that interior door when the food service cart photo shows Hodge's door intact?




Running scenarios...


1. If LVMPD breached Hodge's door first, and did not find Paddock and breached the adjoining door into Paddocks room, who broke the glass in Hodge's room?
(Hodge's door had the room service cart in front of it)


2. If LVMPD breached Paddocks room first, and saw him dead, why did they feel a need to breach Hodge's door?


3. If the door was locked, and Paddock shot through his door into the hall, why were two windows broken when the door was locked and Paddock was not running back and forth between rooms because they had to breach the door so at least one was not jammed open and him using a keycard to gain access to the other room.


4. He had to have been in Hodge's room next to him at some point to break the window as only one hallway door was breached into a room.
So why did they have to breach a second door if Paddock shot the lock out of broke down the door to use both rooms... they would not have needed a second breach.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
There's a connecting door.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Someone broke that window, and I don't think Paddock could have done it if it required LVMPD to breach the door that joins both rooms. If Paddock needed a key fr the midroom door, how did he get it?
If Paddock broke the door, why did LVMPD have to use a second breach?
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
There's a connecting door.
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Yep. Add I guess you are missing what I am saying.


Hodges door was intact. Thread: The cameras were hidden in a room service cart outside Paddocks room. Do you see evidence of the cameras?

If Paddock broke the window in Hodge's room, how did he do it when a key or keycard would be needed to open the doors to Hodge's room.
So if Paddock broke the door inside the rooms, why did LVMPD have to use a second detonation to open that interior door?
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
That's not "Hodges" room.

Paddock supposedly had both the suite at the end 32-135 and the room next to it. So it stands to reason he was able to open, close, and even lock the connecting door.

He could also have secured the door by other means. He was heard drilling supposedly.

There's a lot more mysterious / inexplicable inconsistencies than the connecting door.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
It took SIX minutes to clear Paddocks room, and breach Hodge's room.
[link to www.npr.org]
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Not the answer you're looking for. But...

As with 9-11, no matter how many inconsistencies and conflicts of facts there may be... we are simply not to question the given narrative of this event. Ever. You will likely be labeled as something bad.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
That's not "Hodges" room.

Paddock supposedly had both the suite at the end 32-135 and the room next to it. So it stands to reason he was able to open, close, and even lock the connecting door.

He could also have secured the door by other means. He was heard drilling supposedly.


There's a lot more mysterious / inexplicable inconsistencies than the connecting door.
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So we agree Hodge is a liar

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)]



He supposedly drilled the stairwell door shut.



Just glad you agree that Hodge's story is false.
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Not the answer you're looking for. But...

As with 9-11, no matter how many inconsistencies and conflicts of facts there may be... we are simply not to question the given narrative of this event. Ever. You will likely be labeled as something bad.
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Don't care what I am labelled as or what list I am on.

I am simply picking apart the narrative. I love my country more than the politicians that sell it out for money, and not even think about their own childrens future and they country they will inherit because of greed.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Because all hoaxes/false flags/ psyops/ black ops/drills have false narratives. ?.next question
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
If they breached the room on the top left here [link to www.latimes.com]
Again, who broke the window in Hodge's room.

I can see people will say that this was the door they broke open, and Paddock broke the interior door to Hodge's room therefore they did not need to breach the door to Hodge's room.

But in a hotel, the only door with a lock is the entry door, and IF there is a door to a different room number.
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Because all hoaxes/false flags/ psyops/ black ops/drills have false narratives. ?.next question
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So you just easily dismiss this?

I don't quit as easy.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
It would be easier to take you seriously if you didn't keep calling it "Hodge's room" over and over.
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Could be that the windows were not broken from the inside. They could have been shot out from the helicopter or another location to set the stage of the lone gunman. One of the videos noted the falling glass after the shooting was nearly over.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
It would be easier to take you seriously if you didn't keep calling it "Hodge's room" over and over.
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What should refer to the rooms as?

There is nothing to take seriously in here anyway... Simply just trying to answer a question.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Could be that the windows were not broken from the inside. They could have been shot out from the helicopter or another location to set the stage of the lone gunman. One of the videos noted the falling glass after the shooting was nearly over.
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It's seeming more and more like a Mark Turi story now
Thread: Marc Turi: The mysterious saga of an Arizona arms dealer - This story, full of spooks and political misdirection, twists the mind. The CIA is inv
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Could be that the windows were not broken from the inside. They could have been shot out from the helicopter or another location to set the stage of the lone gunman. One of the videos noted the falling glass after the shooting was nearly over.
 Quoting: Deplorable Intruth


It's seeming more and more like a Mark Turi story now
Thread: Marc Turi: The mysterious saga of an Arizona arms dealer - This story, full of spooks and political misdirection, twists the mind. The CIA is inv
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Thread: 2016 Arms Dealer from AZ & NV with Ties to Obama, Clintons & Trump - FULL STORY INSIDE!
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Because all hoaxes/false flags/ psyops/ black ops/drills have false narratives. ?.next question
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER


So you just easily dismiss this?

I don't quit as easy.
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I've been following "events" such as this for a decade and you?
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies.....


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Because all hoaxes/false flags/ psyops/ black ops/drills have false narratives. ?.next question
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER


So you just easily dismiss this?

I don't quit as easy.
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I've been following "events" such as this for a decade and you?
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER




People "follow" sporting "events" too.

Just because one FOLLOWS doe snot mean they provide anything useful. At some point, one should be able to stop following and start leading.

Would you like to work through this?

Let's see if we can debunk this.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Someone broke that window, and I don't think Paddock could have done it if it required LVMPD to breach the door that joins both rooms. If Paddock needed a key fr the midroom door, how did he get it?
If Paddock broke the door, why did LVMPD have to use a second breach?
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Both broken windows were in the same suite. Here is a floor plan of the Mandalay Bay.

[link to www.tripadvisor.com (secure)]

While this picture shows a different floor, the 32 floor of the building has the same layout.

Source: I have stayed at this hotel in the past.
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Not the answer you're looking for. But...

As with 9-11, no matter how many inconsistencies and conflicts of facts there may be... we are simply not to question the given narrative of this event. Ever. You will likely be labeled as something bad.
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This labeling thing is a whole other conspiracy.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Someone broke that window, and I don't think Paddock could have done it if it required LVMPD to breach the door that joins both rooms. If Paddock needed a key fr the midroom door, how did he get it?
If Paddock broke the door, why did LVMPD have to use a second breach?
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Both broken windows were in the same suite. Here is a floor plan of the Mandalay Bay.

[link to www.tripadvisor.com (secure)]

While this picture shows a different floor, the 32 floor of the building has the same layout.

Source: I have stayed at this hotel in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75762247


You show the 62nd floor.



I will show you the exact room from 2016.








32-134 clearly seen here with door intact.
[link to a57.foxnews.com]


And the floor plan used by news agencies shows two different rooms.
[link to cdn.newsapi.com.au]





Next...
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Because all hoaxes/false flags/ psyops/ black ops/drills have false narratives. ?.next question
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER


So you just easily dismiss this?

I don't quit as easy.
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I've been following "events" such as this for a decade and you?
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER




People "follow" sporting "events" too.

Just because one FOLLOWS doe snot mean they provide anything useful. At some point, one should be able to stop following and start leading.

Would you like to work through this?

Let's see if we can debunk this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


Oh ffs, are the anomalies in the "official" narrative not enough for you as in Sandy Hoax?
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies.....


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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So you just easily dismiss this?

I don't quit as easy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


I've been following "events" such as this for a decade and you?
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER




People "follow" sporting "events" too.

Just because one FOLLOWS doe snot mean they provide anything useful. At some point, one should be able to stop following and start leading.

Would you like to work through this?

Let's see if we can debunk this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


Oh ffs, are the anomalies in the "official" narrative not enough for you as in Sandy Hoax?
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER



Why derail this with Sandy Hook? Debunk it.


And I was 18 on 9/12/01 to 1/26/02 when I was at the World Trace Center working rescue into recovery stages, and what I saw there, and then on the media opened my eyes to how things worked and learned not to truth the media.
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It is 2am. I am going to sleep now.
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It is 2am. I am going to sleep now.
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Go back to sleep you sheep, you have lots of catching up to do, don't fuck with me.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies.....


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Someone broke that window, and I don't think Paddock could have done it if it required LVMPD to breach the door that joins both rooms. If Paddock needed a key fr the midroom door, how did he get it?
If Paddock broke the door, why did LVMPD have to use a second breach?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


Both broken windows were in the same suite. Here is a floor plan of the Mandalay Bay.

[link to www.tripadvisor.com (secure)]

While this picture shows a different floor, the 32 floor of the building has the same layout.

Source: I have stayed at this hotel in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75762247


You show the 62nd floor.



I will show you the exact room from 2016.








32-134 clearly seen here with door intact.
[link to a57.foxnews.com]


And the floor plan used by news agencies shows two different rooms.
[link to cdn.newsapi.com.au]





Next...
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Yes, I clearly said the image I shared was of a different floor, but the 32 floor has the same floor plan. I have stayed at this hotel on a couple of occasions on different floors and I can assure you that the 32nd and the 62nd have the same floor plan.

When you rent the Vista Suite, which is the type of room that Paddock rented, you are asked how many bedrooms you require. He obviously stated that he needed the extra room. It's only about $75 extra per night for the extra space, so why not? Money was obviously of no concern to this guy.

The picture of the cart is in front of the adjoining room and is irrelevant. The main entrance to the Vista Suites are double doors. The door you show is to the extra bedroom. It too can be rented out separately as long as a guest booking the Vista Suite is not using it at the time.

There is no doubt that Paddock was occupying the extra suite at the time thus making the Vista Suite complete with the spare bedroom. A person would have to be lacking common sense to think otherwise.
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Campos was firing from the second window
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It is 2am. I am going to sleep now.
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Go back to sleep you sheep, you have lots of catching up to do, don't fuck with me.
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I am back. Please debunk me.
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Re: MANDALAY BAY. How was the second window broken if Paddock had not busted down the door joining Hodge's and Paddocks rooms?
Someone broke that window, and I don't think Paddock could have done it if it required LVMPD to breach the door that joins both rooms. If Paddock needed a key fr the midroom door, how did he get it?
If Paddock broke the door, why did LVMPD have to use a second breach?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


Both broken windows were in the same suite. Here is a floor plan of the Mandalay Bay.

[link to www.tripadvisor.com (secure)]

While this picture shows a different floor, the 32 floor of the building has the same layout.

Source: I have stayed at this hotel in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75762247


You show the 62nd floor.



I will show you the exact room from 2016.








32-134 clearly seen here with door intact.
[link to a57.foxnews.com]


And the floor plan used by news agencies shows two different rooms.
[link to cdn.newsapi.com.au]





Next...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756603


Yes, I clearly said the image I shared was of a different floor, but the 32 floor has the same floor plan. I have stayed at this hotel on a couple of occasions on different floors and I can assure you that the 32nd and the 62nd have the same floor plan.

When you rent the Vista Suite, which is the type of room that Paddock rented, you are asked how many bedrooms you require. He obviously stated that he needed the extra room. It's only about $75 extra per night for the extra space, so why not? Money was obviously of no concern to this guy.

The picture of the cart is in front of the adjoining room and is irrelevant. The main entrance to the Vista Suites are double doors. The door you show is to the extra bedroom. It too can be rented out separately as long as a guest booking the Vista Suite is not using it at the time.

There is no doubt that Paddock was occupying the extra suite at the time thus making the Vista Suite complete with the spare bedroom. A person would have to be lacking common sense to think otherwise.
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OK, I'll bite.
Why did Hodge say he was occupying that room? [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
So you admit he is a liar, or in on this all.





GLP