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Manaforts connection to Russia through Podesta for those who don't understand what's happening. | |
ElleMira  User ID: 74747800  United States10/30/2017 09:45 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |   And for those who still believe this isn't about the Podestas, read it and weep: [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States10/30/2017 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I give a shit anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75764051 If Trump refuses to prosecute Hillary or Obama for anything, what is the fucking point of it all?? They are all deep state Sure appears to be that way. Trump has already stated he will not prosecute Hillary. He clearly knew of Manafort's previous work for the Podesta Group and the DNC before he taking on Manafort as his campaign chairman. Imagine if you had a traitor working to undermine you or the supposed party you are representing. Most people would be furious, fire that person, and make a public example out of him/her or at least state that you won't tolerate someone like that working for you. Trump did none of these things, but instead called for the firing of FBI director Andrew McCabe the morning after Manafort's home was raided by investigators. This begs the question: Who or what is Trump really working for? My only questions is why did republicans threaten to Impeach Trump if he fired Mueller or Sessions??? Maybe Trump is being blackmailed by Republican deep state characters??? It’s obvious most of the rinos are in bed with the demonrats. Can’t have an honest director or AG. Their crimes would be expose as well. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. I wonder why CNN and other MSM is now completely plastered with news about his ties to Trump even when all the alleged crimes occurred in 2012-13 while in the employ of Pedosta and the Dems? I guess it is just another example from the Dem's very successful playbook: the best defense is an offense. Unfortunately Trump's 3D chess is no match for good old fashioned world class PR spin. Could have fooled me. None of this is bringing down Trump and he still does stuff daily to make the left meltdown that they can't stop. Last Edited by Merit on 10/30/2017 09:47 AM • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| -Haun- User ID: 75459372 United States10/30/2017 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. You mean for Ukraine and the legitimate democratically elected government of Viktor Yanukovich which was forced from power through a bloody coup engineered with $5 billion from the US state department. I don't give a shit about your feelings for or against Russia. That election was a farce and nobody thinks otherwise. Maybe the Ukraine would have voted to go with Russia without armed soldiers standing over the vote counters and the Ukrainian government not allowed to observe the count and then the ballots set fire to and destroyed before a third party recount could take place. But we'll never know now will we? So what I meant is exactly what I said and you'll deal with it like a big boy. Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian wing of the Ukraine political parties. Facts not feelings in my threads.  The link is to Podesta and Hillary. Period. It doesn't matter how the MSM tries to spin this. There will be an indictment and investigation trail that is going to make the situation obvious even to the oblivious liberals. |
| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever period his charges stem from, they will offer him a deal only to get those they want to prosecute. Quoting: Kraut the Deplorable If they are not interested in prosecuting swamp people, they won't no matter what Manafort can give them. I want to believe this is about getting Podesta etc. but I really do not believe we are getting what we want today. I don't think anyone is getting what they want today. I think it's a token gesture to make it look like there's progress and not shit will happen to Manafort truthfully. • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74752921 United States10/30/2017 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JypsieWind Exactly how does Trump himself prosecute? Im pretty sure we have seperation of powers. Its not a dictatorship. Did you not see Chafetz interview???? Sessions is refusing to go after obama or hillary for any of their crimes.. The only one that can order that is the POTUS Remember scooter libby? That's what would happen unless he has a case built first. Sessions told Chafetz he's not even investigating it nor is he going to. Chafetz is part of the swamp. Check out Freedom Watch videos. He buried evidence of spying on Americans that was smuggled out. He is an actor. |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States10/30/2017 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How specifically did Manafort come to be campaign manager? Who specifically recommended him? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69855055 He's like a lawyer. His loyalty is to whoever is paying him and he doesn't actually have any leanings one way or the other about the work he does. Someone probably sold Trump on, or Manafort sold himself, as an objective for higher lobbyist with an understanding of the DNC machine which he certainly would have had. It's been said repeatedly that he was crucial during the election and that may be true given his inside knowledge of the workings of the DNC and his talent to persuade/get things done. That doesn't mean he didn't end up being a crooked rat later though. Ok what I am getting at is - why was Manafort known to have this qualification to be able to be campaign manager and know his way around DC and be able to secure delegates? Who had he done this for before? What previous experience was there that lead someone to "recommend" him? I doubt Trump magically pulled Manafort's name out of a hat. The person who pointed him to Manafort is suspect  "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States10/30/2017 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. You mean for Ukraine and the legitimate democratically elected government of Viktor Yanukovich which was forced from power through a bloody coup engineered with $5 billion from the US state department. Let’s not forget Nuelands phone call. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
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| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I give a shit anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75764051 If Trump refuses to prosecute Hillary or Obama for anything, what is the fucking point of it all?? They are all deep state Sure appears to be that way. Trump has already stated he will not prosecute Hillary. He clearly knew of Manafort's previous work for the Podesta Group and the DNC before he taking on Manafort as his campaign chairman. Imagine if you had a traitor working to undermine you or the supposed party you are representing. Most people would be furious, fire that person, and make a public example out of him/her or at least state that you won't tolerate someone like that working for you. Trump did none of these things, but instead called for the firing of FBI director Andrew McCabe the morning after Manafort's home was raided by investigators. This begs the question: Who or what is Trump really working for? Actually it begs the question what is Manafort really working for. Did you forget Trump fired him? Not that I give a shit anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75764051 If Trump refuses to prosecute Hillary or Obama for anything, what is the fucking point of it all?? They are all deep state Sure appears to be that way. Trump has already stated he will not prosecute Hillary. He clearly knew of Manafort's previous work for the Podesta Group and the DNC before he taking on Manafort as his campaign chairman. Imagine if you had a traitor working to undermine you or the supposed party you are representing. Most people would be furious, fire that person, and make a public example out of him/her or at least state that you won't tolerate someone like that working for you. Trump did none of these things, but instead called for the firing of FBI director Andrew McCabe the morning after Manafort's home was raided by investigators. This begs the question: Who or what is Trump really working for? Actually it begs the question what is Manafort really working for. Did you forget Trump fired him? He accepted Manafort's resignation once the investigation got hot on his tail. I guess if you want to call that a firing, it doesn't really seem to have been the case... “This morning Paul Manafort offered, and I accepted, his resignation from the campaign,” Trump said in a statement. “I am very appreciative for his great work in helping to get us where we are today, and in particular his work guiding us through the delegate and convention process. Paul is a true professional and I wish him the greatest success.” As far as Trump having stated that he will have Hillary prosecuted, it was a significant part of his campaign message/promise. Yet, right after gaining office, he changed his stance on this. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] Lol don't post WaPo and expect to be taken seriously. Especially not an opinion piece  He fired him and gave the same speech for everyone he fired.That's a fact You can try and spin that however you want. If someone believes you or me on the internet doesn't have shit to do with reality though. • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| hankie Everything User ID: 75555467 United States10/30/2017 09:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I give a shit anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75764051 If Trump refuses to prosecute Hillary or Obama for anything, what is the fucking point of it all?? They are all deep state You forgot these are being investigated by other in the DOJ? They are not talking, kind of like the Awan thing, not much news there either. I think most of this fit together somehow. This Awan guy has been around about the same time all this started. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. Pathetic attempt at spin I linked it loser. Let's see you link something that hard links Manafort to Trump and Russia like I did Manafort to Podesta and Russia. I'll save you some time and tell you it doesn't exist but your dumbass can go get an opinion article I'll laugh at if you want • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| ElleMira User ID: 74747800 United States10/30/2017 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The big prize is Trump. There is nothing these corrupt assholes have done to indicate otherwise. They put some heavy charges on Manafort - ones he would spend the rest of his life in prison for. Manafort will want to deal - as in make up some bullshit "evidence" on Trump Nope. Podesta is next: [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] |
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| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I'm off for a bit. Have fun with the panicked libtards and pathetically amateur spin doctors when they find this thread. • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| Merit (OP) User ID: 75247614 United States10/30/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I'm off for a bit. Have fun with the panicked libtards and pathetically amateur spin doctors when they find this thread. • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States10/30/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12921783 Sure appears to be that way. Trump has already stated he will not prosecute Hillary. He clearly knew of Manafort's previous work for the Podesta Group and the DNC before he taking on Manafort as his campaign chairman. Imagine if you had a traitor working to undermine you or the supposed party you are representing. Most people would be furious, fire that person, and make a public example out of him/her or at least state that you won't tolerate someone like that working for you. Trump did none of these things, but instead called for the firing of FBI director Andrew McCabe the morning after Manafort's home was raided by investigators. This begs the question: Who or what is Trump really working for? Actually it begs the question what is Manafort really working for. Did you forget Trump fired him? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12921783 Sure appears to be that way. Trump has already stated he will not prosecute Hillary. He clearly knew of Manafort's previous work for the Podesta Group and the DNC before he taking on Manafort as his campaign chairman. Imagine if you had a traitor working to undermine you or the supposed party you are representing. Most people would be furious, fire that person, and make a public example out of him/her or at least state that you won't tolerate someone like that working for you. Trump did none of these things, but instead called for the firing of FBI director Andrew McCabe the morning after Manafort's home was raided by investigators. This begs the question: Who or what is Trump really working for? Actually it begs the question what is Manafort really working for. Did you forget Trump fired him? He accepted Manafort's resignation once the investigation got hot on his tail. I guess if you want to call that a firing, it doesn't really seem to have been the case... “This morning Paul Manafort offered, and I accepted, his resignation from the campaign,” Trump said in a statement. “I am very appreciative for his great work in helping to get us where we are today, and in particular his work guiding us through the delegate and convention process. Paul is a true professional and I wish him the greatest success.” As far as Trump having stated that he will have Hillary prosecuted, it was a significant part of his campaign message/promise. Yet, right after gaining office, he changed his stance on this. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] Lol don't post WaPo and expect to be taken seriously. Especially not an opinion piece He fired him and gave the same speech for everyone he fired.That's a fact You can try and spin that however you want. If someone believes you or me on the internet doesn't have shit to do with reality though. Exactly. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75368394 United States10/30/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :fivestars: Quoting: ElleMira :trumpclappa: And for those who still believe this isn't about the Podestas, read it and weep: [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] This is from his activity from 2006 and work with Ukraine. All those off shore accounts are interesting. |
| ~kpm~ User ID: 75349625 United States10/30/2017 10:05 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indictment Charges [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2070426 United States10/30/2017 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The big prize is Trump. There is nothing these corrupt assholes have done to indicate otherwise. They put some heavy charges on Manafort - ones he would spend the rest of his life in prison for. Manafort will want to deal - as in make up some bullshit "evidence" on Trump Nope. Podesta is next: [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] Yup. Manfort Podesta Hillary Obama Obama will get a pardon. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75752947  France10/30/2017 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :fivestars: Quoting: ElleMira :trumpclappa: And for those who still believe this isn't about the Podestas, read it and weep: [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] although it's listed as inclusive through 2017, all of the charges are pre-Trump campaign activities. democrats will have egg on their face this week, none of them are reading the actual charges. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75769447 United States10/30/2017 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. Coupke of supporting links from the thread [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] [link to www.politico.com (secure)] Lay off the sauce there buddy. Manafort is gonna roll over on Trump real quick. Bottom line of today is, within a month this will bring down the so called president before the new year. Cant fucking wait. |
| ElleMira User ID: 74747800 United States10/30/2017 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And for those who still believe this isn't about the Podestas, read it and weep: [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] This is from his activity from 2006 and work with Ukraine. All those off shore accounts are interesting. Yes indeed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75752947 France10/30/2017 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The big prize is Trump. There is nothing these corrupt assholes have done to indicate otherwise. They put some heavy charges on Manafort - ones he would spend the rest of his life in prison for. Manafort will want to deal - as in make up some bullshit "evidence" on Trump read the doc. there's nothing related to Trump. . |
| Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States10/30/2017 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. Coupke of supporting links from the thread [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] [link to www.politico.com (secure)] Lay off the sauce there buddy. Manafort is gonna roll over on Trump real quick. Bottom line of today is, within a month this will bring down the so called president before the new year. Cant fucking wait. Can you really be that stupid?? Wait... yes you can. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
| CrankyFairy1 User ID: 73457774 United States10/30/2017 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manafort worked for Podesta on behalf of the pro russian faction of government in the Ukraine. He lobbied for Russia on behalf of Podesta and there is many questions about his finances and dealings with Russia and Podesta at that time. Quoting: Merit All before he worked for Trump and while he worked for the Democrats. So Manaforts issues he was arrested for come from his time lobbying for the Democrats and Russia against the Ukraine. Couple of supporting links from the thread [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)] [link to www.politico.com (secure)] [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] Thank you for this. It explains a lot. This will make the left happy because it will *prove* the unbiased nature of the investigation and then, hopefully, they continue with Podesta et. al. (At least that's what I hope!)   Last Edited by CrankyFairy1 on 10/30/2017 10:12 AM True peace, happiness, contentment and self-worth come from within, and cannot be given, or taken away, by any person or thing. The Golden Rule Solves Everything. Please ask yourself "Have I sufficiently listened to both sides, before forming my opinion on matters of debate?" If not, you might want to re-think your position. Favorite green karma quote: "Never stop being weird." Favorite (anonymous) red karma quote: "Seventeen gophers can fit up your asshole." I found that to be quite impressive! Yay me!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021357 United States10/30/2017 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :fivestars: Quoting: ElleMira :trumpclappa: And for those who still believe this isn't about the Podestas, read it and weep: [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] although it's listed as inclusive through 2017, all of the charges are pre-Trump campaign activities. democrats will have egg on their face this week, none of them are reading the actual charges. . Yup OP nailed it and the Dems are going to be freaking out when they figure out what's really going on |
| MarPep User ID: 75766126 United States10/30/2017 10:19 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I give a shit anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75764051 If Trump refuses to prosecute Hillary or Obama for anything, what is the fucking point of it all?? They are all deep state Exactly how does Trump himself prosecute? Im pretty sure we have seperation of powers. Its not a dictatorship. And the duties of executing/prosecuting are the powers of the Executive branch--Trump can fire Sessions and hire someone willing to prosecute, if he finds someone willing to risk "suicide." _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
