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The Historical Confluence Of Shia And Sunni Islam

 
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We may be seeing the coalescence of the circumstances leading to the Magog war of Ezekiel 38 (see link below), in which numerous Islamic nations come against Israel. Persia (modern day Shia Iran) is listed among other nations such as Ethiopia, Libya, and Turkey as coming against Israel. How can it be that Iran would fight together with Sunni nations against Israel? Will the Sunnis, who represent 80% of Islam, ally with the Shia? Or will the Sunnis conquer the Shia, then attack Israel? The current state of war between Yemen and Saudi Arabia could lead to a wider Sunni-Shia war that may result in the Shia being conquered and assimilated into one huge Sunni alliance of Islam. One way or another, whether by treaty or by war, the Muslim nations will unite to attack Israel, and the Magog war of Ezekiel 38-39 will come to pass.

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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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I understand your point. If you are correct, and the factions cannot ally, then that points to the possibility that we could be seeing the beginning of the final Sunni-Shia war, beginning now in Yemen, in which the 80% Sunnis conquer the 20% Shia, and Islam worldwide becomes one Sunni entity that eventually attacks Israel per Ezekiel 38-39.
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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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I understand your point. If you are correct, and the factions cannot ally, then that points to the possibility that we could be seeing the beginning of the final Sunni-Shia war, beginning now in Yemen, in which the 80% Sunnis conquer the 20% Shia, and Islam worldwide becomes one Sunni entity that eventually attacks Israel per Ezekiel 38-39.
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Could be??? Its a fact, the bible gives a time table

it starts with The Invasion of Iraq, spreads to

syria, then blows up in a massive fight.

We are there..
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Joel 3, Ezekiel 38 and Rev 18 all have begun..

pray for God's people
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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yeah both the physical and spiritual israel

remember God gathers up his 144,000 and takes them

back to Israel

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Joel 3, Ezekiel 38 and Rev 18 all have begun..

pray for God's people
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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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I understand your point. If you are correct, and the factions cannot ally, then that points to the possibility that we could be seeing the beginning of the final Sunni-Shia war, beginning now in Yemen, in which the 80% Sunnis conquer the 20% Shia, and Islam worldwide becomes one Sunni entity that eventually attacks Israel per Ezekiel 38-39.
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Muslims are not good at seeing things through, they put to much faith in "Allah's will".

Take the Iran / Iraq war for example. 10 years of stalemate. Yet America took out Saddam's army in a few weeks (Gulf war 1).

They hate each other but are lazy. Look at how incompetent the Iraqi army was against ISIS, which also ended up being incompetent.

They will be in an endless stalemate. Taking 5 breaks a day to pray, sitting around drinking sweet tea, smoking hooka pipes and arguing among themselves.
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Ezekiel 38.8 does reference "...the land that is brought back from the sword...".

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Ezekiel 38.8 does reference "...the land that is brought back from the sword...".

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
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This says nothing of sort of what you mean.
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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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I understand your point. If you are correct, and the factions cannot ally, then that points to the possibility that we could be seeing the beginning of the final Sunni-Shia war, beginning now in Yemen, in which the 80% Sunnis conquer the 20% Shia, and Islam worldwide becomes one Sunni entity that eventually attacks Israel per Ezekiel 38-39.
 Quoting: Berf Snurple


Muslims are not good at seeing things through, they put to much faith in "Allah's will".

Take the Iran / Iraq war for example. 10 years of stalemate. Yet America took out Saddam's army in a few weeks (Gulf war 1).

They hate each other but are lazy. Look at how incompetent the Iraqi army was against ISIS, which also ended up being incompetent.

They will be in an endless stalemate. Taking 5 breaks a day to pray, sitting around drinking sweet tea, smoking hooka pipes and arguing among themselves.
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One way or another, though, the Shia and Sunni nations listed in Ezekiel 38 do come against Israel.
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Ezekiel 38.8 does reference "...the land that is brought back from the sword...".

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
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Talking about IRAQ
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Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
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Islam is like the weather in London, is either sunni or shiite
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I understand your point. If you are correct, and the factions cannot ally, then that points to the possibility that we could be seeing the beginning of the final Sunni-Shia war, beginning now in Yemen, in which the 80% Sunnis conquer the 20% Shia, and Islam worldwide becomes one Sunni entity that eventually attacks Israel per Ezekiel 38-39.
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They've been trying to do this since Desert Storm, 2003.
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Ezekiel 38.8 does reference "...the land that is brought back from the sword...".

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
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Talking about IRAQ
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But it specifically says the mountains of Israel.
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Wait... you think that when the bible quotes "israel" it is actually talking about the nation founded in 1948, right where palestine lands were since the roman empire?
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Ezekiel 38.8 does reference "...the land that is brought back from the sword...".

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
 Quoting: Berf Snurple


Talking about IRAQ
 Quoting: jake


But it specifically says the mountains of Israel.
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oh, didn't read the whole verse sorry

but keep in mind according to the bible

half of Iraq and All of Syria is considered

Israel Soil.

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The point I'm trying to emphasize is that, with the recent purges in Saudi Arabia, the war between the Saudis and Yemen, and now accusations against Iran, we could be seeing an escalation into a major, and possibly final, war of the Sunnis against the Shia. If it resulted in the Sunnis conquering the Shia, then Ezekiel 38 could be at the door.
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The point I'm trying to emphasize is that, with the recent purges in Saudi Arabia, the war between the Saudis and Yemen, and now accusations against Iran, we could be seeing an escalation into a major, and possibly final, war of the Sunnis against the Shia. If it resulted in the Sunnis conquering the Shia, then Ezekiel 38 could be at the door.
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I think this is part of what is coming


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Get out a spade and dig.
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Get out a spade and dig.
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I take it that you're referring to the fact that Ezekiel specifies that five sixths of the invading army will be killed, and that all the people of Jerusalem will come out to bury them. Note that this implies that the bodies are NOT contaminated by nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare. The contractors employed later to finish the burying are there after the people return to the city.

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The point I'm trying to emphasize is that, with the recent purges in Saudi Arabia, the war between the Saudis and Yemen, and now accusations against Iran, we could be seeing an escalation into a major, and possibly final, war of the Sunnis against the Shia. If it resulted in the Sunnis conquering the Shia, then Ezekiel 38 could be at the door.
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I think you are misreading what is going on. The Sunnis are totally inept at everything.

HAMAS which is Sunnis is useless. They went all in with ISIS only to find out they were nothing more than puppets for Israel and the west. Now HAMAS is trying to get back on good terms with the Shia.

Then the Sunnis are finding out that Saudi Arabia is nothing more than an Israeli puppet. Same thing for Jordan.

Turkey which is also Sunni went in on the ISIS deception but when ISIS started to get destroyed they watched in horror as the U.S. and Israel started backing the Kurds.

Then you have the Christians in the Middle East that partnered with the Shia in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.

Libya which is Sunnis got stabbed in the back by other Sunni nations and now is getting much closer to the Shia.

Then you Have Quatar which is Sunni a major financier of ISIS switching over to the Shia side.

Now we hear that some of those Saudi Princes that were being purged ran to Iran for political Asylum.

So the bottom line is many Sunnis are not allying with the Shia along with Christians
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The point I'm trying to emphasize is that, with the recent purges in Saudi Arabia, the war between the Saudis and Yemen, and now accusations against Iran, we could be seeing an escalation into a major, and possibly final, war of the Sunnis against the Shia. If it resulted in the Sunnis conquering the Shia, then Ezekiel 38 could be at the door.
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I think you are misreading what is going on. The Sunnis are totally inept at everything.

HAMAS which is Sunnis is useless. They went all in with ISIS only to find out they were nothing more than puppets for Israel and the west. Now HAMAS is trying to get back on good terms with the Shia.

Then the Sunnis are finding out that Saudi Arabia is nothing more than an Israeli puppet. Same thing for Jordan.

Turkey which is also Sunni went in on the ISIS deception but when ISIS started to get destroyed they watched in horror as the U.S. and Israel started backing the Kurds.

Then you have the Christians in the Middle East that partnered with the Shia in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.

Libya which is Sunnis got stabbed in the back by other Sunni nations and now is getting much closer to the Shia.

Then you Have Quatar which is Sunni a major financier of ISIS switching over to the Shia side.

Now we hear that some of those Saudi Princes that were being purged ran to Iran for political Asylum.

So the bottom line is many Sunnis are not allying with the Shia along with Christians
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What you're saying is understandable in an environment with so many competing factions, and with so much foreign manipulation going on. What I am suggesting is that, by whatever means, Iran will end up among an alliance of Muslim nations that ends up attacking Israel per Ezekiel 38. The current ramping up of Shia-Sunni tensions relative to the Yemen-Saudi Arabia conflict with Iran being dragged in does seem to portend a sea change among Muslim nations.
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One way or another, whether by treaty or by war, the Muslim nations will unite to attack Israel, and the Magog war of Ezekiel 38-39 will come to pass.
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We may be seeing the coalescence of the circumstances leading to the Magog war of Ezekiel 38 (see link below), in which numerous Islamic nations come against Israel. Persia (modern day Shia Iran) is listed among other nations such as Ethiopia, Libya, and Turkey as coming against Israel. How can it be that Iran would fight together with Sunni nations against Israel? Will the Sunnis, who represent 80% of Islam, ally with the Shia? Or will the Sunnis conquer the Shia, then attack Israel? The current state of war between Yemen and Saudi Arabia could lead to a wider Sunni-Shia war that may result in the Shia being conquered and assimilated into one huge Sunni alliance of Islam. One way or another, whether by treaty or by war, the Muslim nations will unite to attack Israel, and the Magog war of Ezekiel 38-39 will come to pass.

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What if Magog is Germany and prophecy fulfilled during WW2 ?





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