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FDA pushing DEA to schedule Kratom illegal | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16613808  United States11/15/2017 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Banning plants that come from Earth, steps it up to being a crime to Earth and Humanity. Remember when they tried to eradicate Marijuana from the world with all it's uses from medicine to everyday "products" like the hemp paper the original constituion was written on. (The feds still has it's own medical marijuana program that no one else can utilize, they are just waiting for the 4? patients that are left to die so they can finnaly end it...illusions) Totally unconstitutional, it boggles my mind how people can't see this bigger picture. Drugs are bad but adding in the law to ruin lives instead helps no. BLOOD, how much is on your hands? Tax payer you say?... Harm Reduction tactics is the only way, drugs are here to stay. Drugs can be bad but the law has ruined more lives in the end...wtf? |
Alhanna  User ID: 73567860 United States11/15/2017 07:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure where to get seeds but yes you could grow it in any part of the US that stays warm year round. Florida would work great. Im in NH or I already would have imported some trees - working on a greenhouse currently ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ They must tell us what they do Even if we understand not the message |
| Grey Eagle User ID: 73625061 United States11/15/2017 07:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The War On Drugs = war on Big Pharma's MONOPOLY and PROFITS' competition Gotta protect the DC lobbyists' backers and their racketeering & graft-operation. Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 11/15/2017 08:14 PM :fireplace: "Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?" |
| EtaffodlihC User ID: 74865998 United States11/15/2017 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait people died from kratom. I'm calling bullshit on that. All have you know I consumed a copous amount of kratom in the 2000s within in a 6 day period and I am still alive. Did I do something wrong? I am talking about a pound or so. I wonder if the people that died were just using kratom or were on other drugs at the time of injestion leading to kratom being ruled as a factor in their deaths. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34398756 United States11/15/2017 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure he wants to, among a million other things. Remember that Trump is trying to accomplish REAL things for our country, WHILE BEING OBSTRUCTED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY BY A BLACKMAILED DEEP STATE COMMIE OWNED CONGRESS, GOP AND DEM ALIKE. Trump is in a very difficult situation and I applaud his guts tremendously, I don't see anyone else stepping up like he has. NO ONE. And 4 years from now you'll still be saying this. Not saying that TRUMP isn't actually trying, I'm saying you're being disingenuous or are completely insane and actually think Trump is channeling his true persona and intentions to you 24hrs a day. Stop speaking like you have any authority or knowledge about other people's intentions. |
| VigilantTexan User ID: 72775181 United States11/15/2017 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13525735 United States11/15/2017 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Grey Eagle User ID: 73625061 United States11/15/2017 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They'll go ahead and make kratom or something like kratom illegal.. and then turn around later and sell you something very similar, via the big pharmaceuticals. Good Ol Boys Network.. Don't you kids mess with Boss Hogg.. :fireplace: "Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34398756 United States11/15/2017 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Terrebonne User ID: 75833707 United States11/15/2017 08:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57242411 United States11/15/2017 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure he wants to, among a million other things. Remember that Trump is trying to accomplish REAL things for our country, WHILE BEING OBSTRUCTED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY BY A BLACKMAILED DEEP STATE COMMIE OWNED CONGRESS, GOP AND DEM ALIKE. Trump is in a very difficult situation and I applaud his guts tremendously, I don't see anyone else stepping up like he has. NO ONE. And 4 years from now you'll still be saying this. Not saying that TRUMP isn't actually trying, I'm saying you're being disingenuous or are completely insane and actually think Trump is channeling his true persona and intentions to you 24hrs a day. Stop speaking like you have any authority or knowledge about other people's intentions. You have no idea what I know or don't know. Sounds like you've got nothing to say, you're just grumpy at how bad the view is from your grandma's basement. BLIND DIPSH!T. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66427493 United States11/15/2017 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anything that will treat relief from pain, depression, and anxiety. Scientists say it may hold the key to treating chronic pain and may even be a tool to combat addiction to opioid medications must go! Human may not have the right to self medicate and grow their own medicine! /eye roll |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66427493 United States11/15/2017 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And 4 years from now you'll still be saying this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756 Not saying that TRUMP isn't actually trying, I'm saying you're being disingenuous or are completely insane and actually think Trump is channeling his true persona and intentions to you 24hrs a day. Stop speaking like you have any authority or knowledge about other people's intentions. Looks like self projection to me....... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74822221 United States11/15/2017 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in the fairytale fuck is tobacco perfectly legal and kratom's on the chopping block to be outlawed??? Tobacco is a leaf that kills around half its users - over a half million in the U.S. each year. Is the FDA going after tobacco leaf? No. It's the kratom leaf they want.. An amazing medicinal that's being used to treat pain, blood pressure, diabetes, anxiety, stress, sleep, appetite, depression and most of all.. getting people off of Pharmaceuticals!! Backroom dealing FDA, greedy pharmaceutical whores. |
| Tangy User ID: 75780710 United States11/15/2017 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump should start a program for addicts to get clean from opiates using kratom. And for the record it is the only thing that works when my sciatica flares up. Last Edited by Tangy on 11/15/2017 09:10 PM |
| Putin's Voluntaryist User ID: 75012031 United States11/15/2017 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74880678 United States11/15/2017 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kratom withdrawal sucks harder than pills....it affects dopamine, serotonin, and opioid receptors...it got my cat off of pain killers a few years ago...but it's its own demon. You fuckers need to understand this plant. It's powerful. Stop saying its "similar to coffee." Dont believe me - open up a tab at the big R - /quittingkratom. |
| Russian hacker User ID: 75233311 United States11/15/2017 09:24 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kratom helped my kick a heroin addiction I had for over 5 years. Its an awesome plant. Banning it serves no purpose except for big pharma to get rich. Even if there was 36 deaths which there was certainly not. They didn't provide a timeline for the 36 deaths. If you take to much you got sleep, no respiratory depression or any I'll side effects that would warrant death. Put the real toxicology reports out and I will bet my fucking life there was pharmaceuticals in their systems. Kratom is a scapegoat. Fuck em! |
| Peepaws User ID: 75153129 United States11/15/2017 09:26 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the best thing out there to break opiate addiction. When people are addicted and want to quit, they suffer terrible symptoms which can be unbearable. Taking kratom enables people to be able to go through that process. I know an older man who had painful knees and had to have knee replacement surgery for both knees. He took pain pills for several years, and ended up addicted. He tried to quit but couldn't because of extreme withdrawal symptoms, but he found kratom and it worked miracles. He was finally able to get off the pills. I believe parts of our government are making money distributing and selling all forms of it, and if people find a way to truly get off of those drugs (including heroin), it could be a threat to their profits. Peepaws |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 51994186 United States11/15/2017 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was wondering if I should try it for back problems, but they have me on perocet. And OP May you please disable that ad in the signature, your about to give me a seizure with it. Not good for my head. Thanks. I take opiates, I don't suffer any symptoms. Hogwash, I've been on them for almost a year. When I run out I don't go jonsing for another one, I just for my refill. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74880678 United States11/15/2017 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the best thing out there to break opiate addiction. When people are addicted and want to quit, they suffer terrible symptoms which can be unbearable. Taking kratom enables people to be able to go through that process. I know an older man who had painful knees and had to have knee replacement surgery for both knees. He took pain pills for several years, and ended up addicted. He tried to quit but couldn't because of extreme withdrawal symptoms, but he found kratom and it worked miracles. He was finally able to get off the pills. I believe parts of our government are making money distributing and selling all forms of it, and if people find a way to truly get off of those drugs (including heroin), it could be a threat to their profits. Yes. I totally agree!!!! But...lets be honest that anyone whos consumed K to come off pills...needs to know that YOU WILL WITHDRAWAL FROM KRATOM and it is its own monster AS SO LITTLE IS KNOWN ABOUT THIS PLANT. |
| freedom123 User ID: 71257354 United States11/15/2017 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| monkey4truth User ID: 75486566 United States11/15/2017 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all just more proof that we are in the midst of a huge psychop to ramp up suffering, war on drugs, pharmaceutical production and profits, big money to law enforcement agencies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756 Look folks, "opiate epidemic" WAS and IS a manufactured fucking crisis. I'm not saying that is isn't now happening, I'm saying this whole thing was a setup to distract us from dealing with real problems, reigning in corrupt law enforcement agencies, reigning in corrupt pharmaceutical companies, pushing for cannabis legalization(how the fuck can we now that we're in the middle of a giant opiate epidemic???) etc. etc. This whole thing is one of the biggest fucking set-ups any of us have been in since 9/!! probably. Then the icing on the cake is we get Jeffy (keebler elf) Sessions as our AG. That guy is as fucking d33p state as it gets. Clearly in the pocket of the law enforcement brotherhoods, DEA, big pharma, and the NWO. We're fucked. Trump shouldn't have gotten so flustered early on and just waited to hire these positions until someone HE was ACTUALLY comfortable with got in. The other possibility sucks and that's that we don't ever actually get to win, just keep getting sold the fucking illusion of progress when in fact our outcomes are already determinedly fucked. Forgot to mention another huge component of this: Jeffy's obsession with ramping up the private prison industry. That's fucked man. Makes me wonder, does he work for NK or Iran or some shit? Get that fake American traitor the fuck out of the office he is shitting all over. Naah CCA and the Other private prison contractors have deep pockets..much like Big Pharma..Sessions is bought by one or the other or likely both Stand up and speak for truth..even when it's not popular.. |
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| Fluffy Pancakes User ID: 75474476 United States11/15/2017 10:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just ordered 2 kilo's extra. (2.2 pounds each) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54952185 $110 a kilo search for cheapest Kratom. I get it for 75 a kilo Right on. We're just trying three different strains for rheumatoid arthritis. Still not sure what is the most helpful. Once I find out, I am growing the plant. I understand you can buy cuttings. It takes several years for it to grow to a size where you can harvest....So we'll need a couple of kilos if this idiocy is allowed to continue. I'm sooooooo tired of the FDA, the DEA, the BATF, the USDA, the NSA, the DOD, and all the insanity all of them and their compatriots push. Done. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75855080 United States11/15/2017 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly to the guy that mentioned fentanyl I would not be surprised if the DEA began intercepting large quantities and doping them just to get this done. Sure it'd kill hundreds maybe thousands of people but I would not put it past them. Also to the dude that mentioned the fabricated crisis...you're exactly right everything from the Sackler families (Purdue pharma OxyContin kings) fortune from massive lying and fraud through their explosion into the market in the 90's to Afghanistan poppy fields surging in production after the US invasion and now the Fentanyl and Carfentinil that has poured into the US and Canada. Ever wonder why you don't hear about that in other countries? It is by design...creating a crisis to justify the existence of the DEA and all the other organizations that benefit and profit from it. Let's just hope that the same lawmakers that put up a fight last year keep it up! |
| Dirk_Diggler User ID: 75263157 United States11/15/2017 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | opioids kill thousands a year Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75758325 40 people die from being stupid with kratom (and other substances mixed) and they want to ban it better stock the f up I just got 1.25 kilos in the mail today. Will get another 10 keys next week now that I know this. I hate taking my Vicodin and kratom makes it so I don’t have to damn near all the time. I filled up my one month supply of Vicodin last December and I have about 3/4 of it left. Last Edited by Dirk_Diggler on 11/15/2017 10:17 PM |
