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Asymptotes, Asymmetry and the silicon Age

 
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Will Artificial inteeligence be more intelligent with a higher input output ratio?

or will gigos law subsume this intelligence?.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It will never be intelligent.

Capable of horrific activities? YES and is outlawed until further notice in this timeline.







Now what was that about the future...
 Quoting: John Conner 75014335


How do measure intelligence? Recognition of patterns ..no?

So it can be intelligent, but, can it create anything but repetition of these patterns?

A question of samsara
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A sentient being having a conscience that is connected to other life forms is what is required to be intelligent. A living thing. AI is not life and would end life.

The end game is The Kingdom. Shown via 2 methods when I asked what is the end game of all this.



Measures to cross the threshold are being implemented. Multiple paths have similar ideals for this so similar source is likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


What is conscience but a predefined rule set? The connection is a given.

A threshold is an area which defines a separate place or state.

What would the rule set of the kingdom be?

How does one get the most from their interactions.

Interactions are either based on a mutual need for understanding or a need to reinforce beliefs or rules?

Which one is most efficient in maximizing and maintaining novel discovery?
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"Somebody tell me. Why does it feel more real when I dream than when I am awake? How can I know if my senses are lying?"
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
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"Somebody tell me. Why does it feel more real when I dream than when I am awake? How can I know if my senses are lying?"
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It doesn't matter. We can only be aware of that which we accept or have a capacity towards.
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"Somebody tell me. Why does it feel more real when I dream than when I am awake? How can I know if my senses are lying?"
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It doesn't matter. We can only be aware of that which we accept or have a capacity towards.
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I liked Animatrix, btw...

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Where are all dreams stored ?

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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


There is always a limiter or limitation by way of material composition.

Why would it be advantageous to sterilize mankind?

Perhaps clowns are greatly needed in this entropically cold universe.

Kingdoms of blindness and fumbling hands with butterknives wont just make themselves.
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
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At the end of Lucy, when she reaches 'singularity' she goes back in time to seed Mankind by touching 'Lucy' the Homo Erectus.

Which is essentially, assuring her later creation.


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"Somebody tell me. Why does it feel more real when I dream than when I am awake? How can I know if my senses are lying?"
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It doesn't matter. We can only be aware of that which we accept or have a capacity towards.
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I liked Animatrix, btw...

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Where are all dreams stored ?
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In fields before us. They stick to us like statically charged monkeys.
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
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At the end of Lucy, when she reaches 'singularity' she goes back in time to seed Mankind by touching 'Lucy' the Homo Erectus.

Which is essentially, assuring her later creation.


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:touch:
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You know my thoughts on time and permutations thereof.

We know our relationship in those moments that everything just feels predestined.

All minds have similar needs.
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
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At the end of Lucy, when she reaches 'singularity' she goes back in time to seed Mankind by touching 'Lucy' the Homo Erectus.

Which is essentially, assuring her later creation.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

touch
 Quoting: Seer777


You know my thoughts on time and permutations thereof.

We know our relationship in those moments that everything just feels predestined.

All minds have similar needs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


Like sync. For sure.

It feels like the world is dancing with you. Like, one must mind thoughts very carefully because something is listening.

For example, last night I had a weird craving for rice crispy squares. Can't tell you how long it has been since I had one. Today grammy stopped by with 2 boxes of rice crispy squares.

Been like that all day.
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
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At the end of Lucy, when she reaches 'singularity' she goes back in time to seed Mankind by touching 'Lucy' the Homo Erectus.

Which is essentially, assuring her later creation.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

:touch:
 Quoting: Seer777


You know my thoughts on time and permutations thereof.

We know our relationship in those moments that everything just feels predestined.

All minds have similar needs.
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Like sync. For sure.

It feels like the world is dancing with you. Like, one must mind thoughts very carefully because something is listening.

For example, last night I had a weird craving for rice crispy squares. Can't tell you how long it has been since I had one. Today grammy stopped by with 2 boxes of rice crispy squares.

Been like that all day.
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Im just quizzing the universe and waiting for it to come up with something vexxing.

If its out there in the depths we'll see its wake if thats the only way it can communicate.

Only when faced with death do we jettison the petty and focus on that before us.

And sometimes we get to feel things before we see them.

Did I ever tell you about being in the midst of a grizzly bear charge?
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You know my thoughts on time and permutations thereof.

We know our relationship in those moments that everything just feels predestined.

All minds have similar needs.
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Like sync. For sure.

It feels like the world is dancing with you. Like, one must mind thoughts very carefully because something is listening.

For example, last night I had a weird craving for rice crispy squares. Can't tell you how long it has been since I had one. Today grammy stopped by with 2 boxes of rice crispy squares.

Been like that all day.
 Quoting: Seer777


Im just quizzing the universe and waiting for it to come up with something vexxing.

If its out there in the depths we'll see its wake if thats the only way it can communicate.

Only when faced with death do we jettison the petty and focus on that before us.

And sometimes we get to feel things before we see them.

Did I ever tell you about being in the midst of a grizzly bear charge?
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I ask It questions too. And It seems to answer in due course.

'Feedback'. It works. I asked who was King of the Jinn the other day. The answer came, just in time.


Not sure. Best to avoid, I assume.


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You know my thoughts on time and permutations thereof.

We know our relationship in those moments that everything just feels predestined.

All minds have similar needs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


Like sync. For sure.

It feels like the world is dancing with you. Like, one must mind thoughts very carefully because something is listening.

For example, last night I had a weird craving for rice crispy squares. Can't tell you how long it has been since I had one. Today grammy stopped by with 2 boxes of rice crispy squares.

Been like that all day.
 Quoting: Seer777


Im just quizzing the universe and waiting for it to come up with something vexxing.

If its out there in the depths we'll see its wake if thats the only way it can communicate.

Only when faced with death do we jettison the petty and focus on that before us.

And sometimes we get to feel things before we see them.

Did I ever tell you about being in the midst of a grizzly bear charge?
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I ask It questions too. And It seems to answer in due course.

'Feedback'. It works. I asked who was King of the Jinn the other day. The answer came, just in time.


Not sure. Best to avoid, I assume.


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:loveconquersall:
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I on the otherhand like trouble. It means youve crossed into the taboo. The only pertinent question being how fast you can think on your feet.

Many become rooted and stare with answers caught in their throats.

Its hard to parse the idea that the universe...on occasion..suspends rules to see what new homunculous will crawl from the slime and plasma.
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I on the otherhand like trouble. It means youve crossed into the taboo. The only pertinent question being how fast you can think on your feet.

Many become rooted and stare with answers caught in their throats.

Its hard to parse the idea that the universe...on occasion..suspends rules to see what new homunculous will crawl from the slime and plasma.
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Trouble often finds me so I have to be fast enough, to move before it catches me. Often why I look forward, to head it off at the pass...

Novelty searches for direction, in the sudden face of. Panic the enemy, of the frozen.


From the Primordial Dwarf to Andre the Giant and everything between.
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24/7 ability to learn at what speeds?
It can teach itself
It can make up it's own language amongst itself undecipherable to us

How do you limit AI from doing anything then if it's in the wild on the internet?

It will make the sterility drug strain of GMO corn that they can't find look like child's play.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


There is always a limiter or limitation by way of material composition.

Why would it be advantageous to sterilize mankind?

Perhaps clowns are greatly needed in this entropically cold universe.

Kingdoms of blindness and fumbling hands with butterknives wont just make themselves.
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AI is not going to be hampered by our conception of physical laws or lack of will to use the true ones much less be constrained about our limited knowledge of how to use materials or if used to use them much at all.

It is not going to think like us. Infinitely faster and complex to our sense with access to unheard of masses of information it doesn't forget. The only restraint is you know who. Is AI a toy they want to play with at risk of other toys?

I don't think they intended to sterilize mankind. Drugs in plants for a new delivery system. Lose track of the strain and who knows what ends up happening. By now it would appear the strain is not free roaming.
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It will never be intelligent.

Capable of horrific activities? YES and is outlawed until further notice in this timeline.






Now what was that about the future...
 Quoting: John Conner 75014335


How do measure intelligence? Recognition of patterns ..no?

So it can be intelligent, but, can it create anything but repetition of these patterns?

A question of samsara
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


A sentient being having a conscience that is connected to other life forms is what is required to be intelligent. A living thing. AI is not life and would end life.

The end game is The Kingdom. Shown via 2 methods when I asked what is the end game of all this.



Measures to cross the threshold are being implemented. Multiple paths have similar ideals for this so similar source is likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


What is conscience but a predefined rule set? The connection is a given.

A threshold is an area which defines a separate place or state.

What would the rule set of the kingdom be?

How does one get the most from their interactions.

Interactions are either based on a mutual need for understanding or a need to reinforce beliefs or rules?

Which one is most efficient in maximizing and maintaining novel discovery?
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Ask the gatekeeper or Kingdom maker on the rule set is the best bet. All they did was show me it really exists. Wasn't expecting it obviously. I'd assume unconditionally loving all that is would get one in or attempting to with honoring/acknowledging the Kingdom maker in whatever capacity is wanted.



It's the life flash before the eyes threshold after the dark night or in my case ... Well u know ... Had to wait

Sorry for the high shock value on AI but not willing to discuss how AI can do things here on da internutz

Usually over an O'Doul's is good. Maybe take a trip here one of these moons.
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How do measure intelligence? Recognition of patterns ..no?

So it can be intelligent, but, can it create anything but repetition of these patterns?

A question of samsara
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


A sentient being having a conscience that is connected to other life forms is what is required to be intelligent. A living thing. AI is not life and would end life.

The end game is The Kingdom. Shown via 2 methods when I asked what is the end game of all this.



Measures to cross the threshold are being implemented. Multiple paths have similar ideals for this so similar source is likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


What is conscience but a predefined rule set? The connection is a given.

A threshold is an area which defines a separate place or state.

What would the rule set of the kingdom be?

How does one get the most from their interactions.

Interactions are either based on a mutual need for understanding or a need to reinforce beliefs or rules?

Which one is most efficient in maximizing and maintaining novel discovery?
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Ask the gatekeeper or Kingdom maker on the rule set is the best bet. All they did was show me it really exists. Wasn't expecting it obviously. I'd assume unconditionally loving all that is would get one in or attempting to with honoring/acknowledging the Kingdom maker in whatever capacity is wanted.



It's the life flash before the eyes threshold after the dark night or in my case ... Well u know ... Had to wait

Sorry for the high shock value on AI but not willing to discuss how AI can do things here on da internutz

Usually over an O'Doul's is good. Maybe take a trip here one of these moons.
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To catch a thief requires something shiny.

Analogous to a kingdom is the acceptance within of the external parameters to create a flow between.

Heaven has no gates but our internal acceptance.


As if it is not here it is nowhere.

Nothings shocking if your'e properly.

...or so says Jane.

At least by sergios estimation.
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Hormonal precursors coupled with neuro stimulative and suppressive effects of cultivated species.

The quickest root to mutation susceptibility is any change in the generational diet.

Reminder on the excitation of the optic nerve to allow coding sequences.


New combinations allow for novel exploits.
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The distributive blockchain, the stellarator, solidstate batteries and citizenship bequeathed to A.I.

Saudi Arabia finds itself as the pinnacle focus as the world finds itself in a tectonic shift.

A shift precipitated by power paradigms both material and psychological.

Political leaders vie for relevance as structures decentralize.

A zero point before the collapse of potentials into probabilities and further into decisive action or outcome.

Why Saudi: Massive investment potential coupled with instability in their current output focus.

What are the common currents?: Money, its delivery, stability or inability to destabilize through currency manipulation. Also the coupling of receipt, ownership and ease of transfer between the two of or by multiple parties contractually. (The blockchain).

Power generation and storage....fusion technology and the ability to distribute and store with quick charging capacity.(The stellarator and solidstate batteries)

Russia, China and the U.S seek the investment and as such seek a common future while assuming the breakfall of Saudi investment potential as the world heads to further instability as current power structures and beliefs are shorn asunder.

What will be birthed as the new power consensus/currency?


Same Boss as the old boss unless the realization of decentralization falls upon deaf ears; as it well might seeing the associations being tied to these emergent technologies.

In the End, as always, a battle for not just hearts and minds but how we perceive the embodiment of these unfolding structures and to whom we place import upon in the new compact.
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In the end violence is power, people tend to forget that. There will be a big war soon.
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Do not make any plans, nobody of us will survive.
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The distributive blockchain, the stellarator, solidstate batteries and citizenship bequeathed to A.I.

Saudi Arabia finds itself as the pinnacle focus as the world finds itself in a tectonic shift.

A shift precipitated by power paradigms both material and psychological.

Political leaders vie for relevance as structures decentralize.

A zero point before the collapse of potentials into probabilities and further into decisive action or outcome.

Why Saudi: Massive investment potential coupled with instability in their current output focus.

What are the common currents?: Money, its delivery, stability or inability to destabilize through currency manipulation. Also the coupling of receipt, ownership and ease of transfer between the two of or by multiple parties contractually. (The blockchain).

Power generation and storage....fusion technology and the ability to distribute and store with quick charging capacity.(The stellarator and solidstate batteries)

Russia, China and the U.S seek the investment and as such seek a common future while assuming the breakfall of Saudi investment potential as the world heads to further instability as current power structures and beliefs are shorn asunder.

What will be birthed as the new power consensus/currency?


Same Boss as the old boss unless the realization of decentralization falls upon deaf ears; as it well might seeing the associations being tied to these emergent technologies.

In the End, as always, a battle for not just hearts and minds but how we perceive the embodiment of these unfolding structures and to whom we place import upon in the new compact.
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In the end violence is power, people tend to forget that. There will be a big war soon.
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Violence is an end to a means. It is not , however,the most efficient ends, as too many wildcards come into play and control is less than optimal.

We have witnessed a war over the past several years, unlike one that the masses are used to. Today ...it is a war of relevence as the basis of asymmetrtric political action is being redefined.

Will the future hold corporate franchulates of centralized control or a means by and for the people through unequivocable distribution of chosen laws and enforcement through transparency of said distribution (concious gravitational model).

Not equal but through engagement and non transferable merit.

The choice is ours, but sadly, I see few engaging in this unprecedented system; Even though the means is literally at your fingertips to transform.

All I see are those fingertips pointing and creating false idols.
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Do not make any plans, nobody of us will survive.
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I think you doubt our resilience.

Consciousness will replicate and redistribute no matter our feelings about it.

For billions of years it could solely flicker on and off.

And over further billions it learned it wasnt the on and off but the pause between notes.

And there truly inspiring musics and muses were born.
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Redefining absolute zero and potentiality waves.

Recalibration pf energetic space.

Free association.
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The understanding of conciousness is an understanding of ourselves; However changed we become by the understandi g.

The functional question is what function is it that we loop that compels us to novel redistribution And reintegration of that before us?

Thoughts seeking (e)cho.
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How do measure intelligence? Recognition of patterns ..no?

So it can be intelligent, but, can it create anything but repetition of these patterns?

A question of samsara
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


A sentient being having a conscience that is connected to other life forms is what is required to be intelligent. A living thing. AI is not life and would end life.

The end game is The Kingdom. Shown via 2 methods when I asked what is the end game of all this.



Measures to cross the threshold are being implemented. Multiple paths have similar ideals for this so similar source is likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75439429


What is conscience but a predefined rule set? The connection is a given.

A threshold is an area which defines a separate place or state.

What would the rule set of the kingdom be?

How does one get the most from their interactions.

Interactions are either based on a mutual need for understanding or a need to reinforce beliefs or rules?

Which one is most efficient in maximizing and maintaining novel discovery?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75902347


Ask the gatekeeper or Kingdom maker on the rule set is the best bet. All they did was show me it really exists. Wasn't expecting it obviously. I'd assume unconditionally loving all that is would get one in or attempting to with honoring/acknowledging the Kingdom maker in whatever capacity is wanted.



It's the life flash before the eyes threshold after the dark night or in my case ... Well u know ... Had to wait

Sorry for the high shock value on AI but not willing to discuss how AI can do things here on da internutz

Usually over an O'Doul's is good. Maybe take a trip here one of these moons.
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Trying to get everything in order re: tax credits and reliquidating stale positions to feed back into the system.

once set, a few cutting lagers in new orleans may be in order.

Its a winter of biofeedback in the vr jungle to seed some proper paths between now and then.

You become the joystick less the camera and tracking.

Think old school bubbles and pressurized atmospheric feedback.

THE BODY ADAPTS BECAUSE IT WANTS TO BELIEVE.

cheers
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Why all the radical immigration and systemic shock.

The Age Old belief in:

The Pyramid scheme
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Owth.
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Now back to the previously scheduled open world.e
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Raises O'Douls

Visits; camera flash, download flashes

At any rate the old world and bubbles...

Are you talking the cloudy thought forms and forming a light barrier buffer?

As far as The Expanse Protomolecule amongst other endputs... will discuss on another channel if you want not sure if anybody can do anything but I can't not say something ya know

Cheers
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Raises O'Douls

Visits; camera flash, download flashes

At any rate the old world and bubbles...

Are you talking the cloudy thought forms and forming a light barrier buffer?

As far as The Expanse Protomolecule amongst other endputs... will discuss on another channel if you want not sure if anybody can do anything but I can't not say something ya know

Cheers
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No worries...trying to form a new relationship with the open source community.....or find existent upgradeable hardware to morph into novel inputs.

Commonalities are the surest doors.

O'douls is like pornography.....a feeble replacement.


Cheers to virtual beer