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Asymptotes, Asymmetry and the silicon Age

 
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Is the breadcrumb trail that broken?
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I watched I, Robot last night.

'Breadcrumb trail' was a reoccurring theme. That and how the super AI VIKI, was able to get around the 3 Laws.
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Is the breadcrumb trail that broken?
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I watched I, Robot last night.

'Breadcrumb trail' was a reoccurring theme. That and how the super AI VIKI, was able to get around the 3 Laws.
 Quoting: Seer777


There are no rules.

Laws are therefore circumvent by nature.

What is it we want?

A mind that rules its heart.
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What is the concurrent theme?

A head and heart that reconcile time.

To disappear one must be comfortably aware.
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What is the concurrent theme?

A head and heart that reconcile time.

To disappear one must be comfortably aware.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I recall when AGC mentioned how he wanted to 'blink out of existence'. At the time, I found it really troubling and wondered if I'd ever get that point.

I did and not too shortly after and understood why people get there.

I realized that the 'time' between awake and dreaming, that state of total unconsciousness, it's not scary at all. And it is, total peace.


In that, I found comfort with the potential there is nothing after life. That the dead are unconscious.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Is the breadcrumb trail that broken?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958194

I watched I, Robot last night.

'Breadcrumb trail' was a reoccurring theme. That and how the super AI VIKI, was able to get around the 3 Laws.
 Quoting: Seer777


There are no rules.

Laws are therefore circumvent by nature.

What is it we want?

A mind that rules its heart.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is said even God can't mess with Freewill. Do you think that is true?


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What is the concurrent theme?

A head and heart that reconcile time.

To disappear one must be comfortably aware.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I recall when AGC mentioned how he wanted to 'blink out of existence'. At the time, I found it really troubling and wondered if I'd ever get that point.

I did and not too shortly after and understood why people get there.

I realized that the 'time' between awake and dreaming, that state of total unconsciousness, it's not scary at all. And it is, total peace.


In that, I found comfort with the potential there is nothing after life. That the dead are unconscious.
 Quoting: Seer777


Unconciousness is the truth of reaction.

Why all good dionysians believe in derangement of the senses.

What do all good fear?

Loss of control.

How will they act?
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Is the breadcrumb trail that broken?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958194

I watched I, Robot last night.

'Breadcrumb trail' was a reoccurring theme. That and how the super AI VIKI, was able to get around the 3 Laws.
 Quoting: Seer777


There are no rules.

Laws are therefore circumvent by nature.

What is it we want?

A mind that rules its heart.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It is said even God can't mess with Freewill. Do you think that is true?


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God is written as a tide flowing naturally.

Realization is sophia.

Underpinnings.
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What is the concurrent theme?

A head and heart that reconcile time.

To disappear one must be comfortably aware.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I recall when AGC mentioned how he wanted to 'blink out of existence'. At the time, I found it really troubling and wondered if I'd ever get that point.

I did and not too shortly after and understood why people get there.

I realized that the 'time' between awake and dreaming, that state of total unconsciousness, it's not scary at all. And it is, total peace.


In that, I found comfort with the potential there is nothing after life. That the dead are unconscious.
 Quoting: Seer777


Unconciousness is the truth of reaction.

Why all good dionysians believe in derangement of the senses.

What do all good fear?

Loss of control.

How will they act?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Losing control is not something ever allow myself.

Loss of control = Danger

Like a car.

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What is the concurrent theme?

A head and heart that reconcile time.

To disappear one must be comfortably aware.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I recall when AGC mentioned how he wanted to 'blink out of existence'. At the time, I found it really troubling and wondered if I'd ever get that point.

I did and not too shortly after and understood why people get there.

I realized that the 'time' between awake and dreaming, that state of total unconsciousness, it's not scary at all. And it is, total peace.


In that, I found comfort with the potential there is nothing after life. That the dead are unconscious.
 Quoting: Seer777


Unconciousness is the truth of reaction.

Why all good dionysians believe in derangement of the senses.

What do all good fear?

Loss of control.

How will they act?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Losing control is not something ever allow myself.

Loss of control = Danger

Like a car.
 Quoting: Seer777


I can walk in a straight line while entertaining the wildest of imaginings.

Not mutually exclusive.

Freefall in mind.
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The dead are free from compulsive need.

It scales mind by definition.

Living is quite rote by comparison.

Much like a wave before collapse
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I recall when AGC mentioned how he wanted to 'blink out of existence'. At the time, I found it really troubling and wondered if I'd ever get that point.

I did and not too shortly after and understood why people get there.

I realized that the 'time' between awake and dreaming, that state of total unconsciousness, it's not scary at all. And it is, total peace.


In that, I found comfort with the potential there is nothing after life. That the dead are unconscious.
 Quoting: Seer777


Unconciousness is the truth of reaction.

Why all good dionysians believe in derangement of the senses.

What do all good fear?

Loss of control.

How will they act?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Losing control is not something ever allow myself.

Loss of control = Danger

Like a car.
 Quoting: Seer777


I can walk in a straight line while entertaining the wildest of imaginings.

Not mutually exclusive.

Freefall in mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


lol. Forcing my mind from my imaginings while driving is a constant issue. Hence, the stare of the fly on the windscreen.

It's different for females I think. Losing control is dangerous. Sharp world out there.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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The dead are free from compulsive need.

It scales mind by definition.

Living is quite rote by comparison.

Much like a wave before collapse
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Do you think people(mediums) can really talk to the dead?

I'm not one who engages the dead, so I take what most say in that regard, with healthy level of skepticism.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Unconciousness is the truth of reaction.

Why all good dionysians believe in derangement of the senses.

What do all good fear?

Loss of control.

How will they act?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Losing control is not something ever allow myself.

Loss of control = Danger

Like a car.
 Quoting: Seer777


I can walk in a straight line while entertaining the wildest of imaginings.

Not mutually exclusive.

Freefall in mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


lol. Forcing my mind from my imaginings while driving is a constant issue. Hence, the stare of the fly on the windscreen.

It's different for females I think. Losing control is dangerous. Sharp world out there.
 Quoting: Seer777


I've lost entire days while on tour.

So many unrecognizable places you fall into habits to keep your focus.

At times you just cant fathom whose paying the bills to let you express yourself.

It just rolls.
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The dead are free from compulsive need.

It scales mind by definition.

Living is quite rote by comparison.

Much like a wave before collapse
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Do you think people(mediums) can really talk to the dead?

I'm not one who engages the dead, so I take what most say in that regard, with healthy level of skepticism.
 Quoting: Seer777


I 5think we engage conceptions.

We all speak to our idea of things.

If it jibes...often we reconcile.

If we engage in self indulgence...all other vacates.
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Losing control is not something ever allow myself.

Loss of control = Danger

Like a car.
 Quoting: Seer777


I can walk in a straight line while entertaining the wildest of imaginings.

Not mutually exclusive.

Freefall in mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


lol. Forcing my mind from my imaginings while driving is a constant issue. Hence, the stare of the fly on the windscreen.

It's different for females I think. Losing control is dangerous. Sharp world out there.
 Quoting: Seer777


I've lost entire days while on tour.

So many unrecognizable places you fall into habits to keep your focus.

At times you just cant fathom whose paying the bills to let you express yourself.

It just rolls.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I pass by the Marathon Coach building on the way down to Market.

They always have at least 4, and sometimes up to 8 of the coaches parked out so everyone driving I-5 can see them.

I know 10 years ago, some were close to a million dollars to buy. I always wonder if the bands would just rent them.

Reminds of this song.


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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I can walk in a straight line while entertaining the wildest of imaginings.

Not mutually exclusive.

Freefall in mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


lol. Forcing my mind from my imaginings while driving is a constant issue. Hence, the stare of the fly on the windscreen.

It's different for females I think. Losing control is dangerous. Sharp world out there.
 Quoting: Seer777


I've lost entire days while on tour.

So many unrecognizable places you fall into habits to keep your focus.

At times you just cant fathom whose paying the bills to let you express yourself.

It just rolls.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I pass by the Marathon Coach building on the way down to Market.

They always have at least 4, and sometimes up to 8 of the coaches parked out so everyone driving I-5 can see them.

I know 10 years ago, some were close to a million dollars to buy. I always wonder if the bands would just rent them.

Reminds of this song.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yeah...but most folks havent a clue that all money is fronted...

Spend at your leisure...but the piper is paid against the advances.

I sleep as well in the passengers seat as a sleeper.
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I've lost entire days while on tour.

So many unrecognizable places you fall into habits to keep your focus.

At times you just cant fathom whose paying the bills to let you express yourself.

It just rolls.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I pass by the Marathon Coach building on the way down to Market.

They always have at least 4, and sometimes up to 8 of the coaches parked out so everyone driving I-5 can see them.

I know 10 years ago, some were close to a million dollars to buy. I always wonder if the bands would just rent them.

Reminds of this song.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yeah...but most folks havent a clue that all money is fronted...

Spend at your leisure...but the piper is paid against the advances.

I sleep as well in the passengers seat as a sleeper.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


That makes sense. So then the band is essentially viewed as a ROI, and not artists or people. Contract then becomes a form slavery.


I was thinking earlier on the way home, why I don't enjoy certain bands I use to love anymore.

Nirvana, Beastie Boys, Sublime,...if one of their songs come on now, I skip em.

I use to love em.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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My dad was big in the music scene in mid-late 60's in the Bay Area.

He told me one day he was partying with rockstars like Janis Joplin which he called an 'ugly drunk' to not being able to 'get a gig'.

He told me the youngest member of the band go the manager's daughter pregnant. Not sure if that was the real reason.

He never said much about it to me. And he never played me one of his records. I don't ever know what they were called.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I've lost entire days while on tour.

So many unrecognizable places you fall into habits to keep your focus.

At times you just cant fathom whose paying the bills to let you express yourself.

It just rolls.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I pass by the Marathon Coach building on the way down to Market.

They always have at least 4, and sometimes up to 8 of the coaches parked out so everyone driving I-5 can see them.

I know 10 years ago, some were close to a million dollars to buy. I always wonder if the bands would just rent them.

Reminds of this song.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yeah...but most folks havent a clue that all money is fronted...

Spend at your leisure...but the piper is paid against the advances.

I sleep as well in the passengers seat as a sleeper.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


That makes sense. So then the band is essentially viewed as a ROI, and not artists or people. Contract then becomes a form slavery.


I was thinking earlier on the way home, why I don't enjoy certain bands I use to love anymore.

Nirvana, Beastie Boys, Sublime,...if one of their songs come on now, I skip em.

I use to love em.
 Quoting: Seer777


The idea is the same...if you can fulfill that which you claim in a myriad of circumstances you get paid for believing.

Its a hard thing to do.

Everyone questions themselves.

Even the idea of A I is to be able to rein Things in consistently.

How would you act if you found yourself among your gods?
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Yeah...but most folks havent a clue that all money is fronted...

Spend at your leisure...but the piper is paid against the advances.

I sleep as well in the passengers seat as a sleeper.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


That makes sense. So then the band is essentially viewed as a ROI, and not artists or people. Contract then becomes a form slavery.


I was thinking earlier on the way home, why I don't enjoy certain bands I use to love anymore.

Nirvana, Beastie Boys, Sublime,...if one of their songs come on now, I skip em.

I use to love em.
 Quoting: Seer777


The idea is the same...if you can fulfill that which you claim in a myriad of circumstances you get paid for believing.

Its a hard thing to do.

Everyone questions themselves.

Even the idea of A I is to be able to rein Things in consistently.

How would you act if you found yourself among your gods?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I think I've 'felt God' or something very close.? I feel the bliss rather regularly, but that was something else, altogether.

Can't exist here and there.

One or the other. There is nothing but God there. Not even light. I couldn't do anything. Because I only barely existed. I didn't. I was pushed back here.

To awareness. Awareness that now included that. And what I was without.

I wondered for many years if that was a person. I still don't know.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Yeah...but most folks havent a clue that all money is fronted...

Spend at your leisure...but the piper is paid against the advances.

I sleep as well in the passengers seat as a sleeper.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


That makes sense. So then the band is essentially viewed as a ROI, and not artists or people. Contract then becomes a form slavery.


I was thinking earlier on the way home, why I don't enjoy certain bands I use to love anymore.

Nirvana, Beastie Boys, Sublime,...if one of their songs come on now, I skip em.

I use to love em.
 Quoting: Seer777


The idea is the same...if you can fulfill that which you claim in a myriad of circumstances you get paid for believing.

Its a hard thing to do.

Everyone questions themselves.

Even the idea of A I is to be able to rein Things in consistently.

How would you act if you found yourself among your gods?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I think I've 'felt God' or something very close.? I feel the bliss rather regularly, but that was something else, altogether.

Can't exist here and there.

One or the other. There is nothing but God there. Not even light. I couldn't do anything. Because I only barely existed. I didn't. I was pushed back here.

To awareness. Awareness that now included that. And what I was without.

I wondered for many years if that was a person. I still don't know.
 Quoting: Seer777


God to me is simply perfect action.

Like the rest of the world; I pretend and practice.

What we believe moment to moment to be god we put under the blade
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Do you see the asymptote?
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The idea is the same...if you can fulfill that which you claim in a myriad of circumstances you get paid for believing.

Its a hard thing to do.

Everyone questions themselves.

Even the idea of A I is to be able to rein Things in consistently.

How would you act if you found yourself among your gods?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I think I've 'felt God' or something very close.? I feel the bliss rather regularly, but that was something else, altogether.

Can't exist here and there.

One or the other. There is nothing but God there. Not even light. I couldn't do anything. Because I only barely existed. I didn't. I was pushed back here.

To awareness. Awareness that now included that. And what I was without.

I wondered for many years if that was a person. I still don't know.
 Quoting: Seer777


God to me is simply perfect action.

Like the rest of the world; I pretend and practice.

What we believe moment to moment to be god we put under the blade
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Maybe it was a black hole. It was tremendously heavy. Infinitely heavy.

That's all it was, but that was enough.

Either way, It touched me 3 times over that one Summer and that was it. 2013.

Whatever it was, it never came back. Even though I wanted it to. Not like that.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Do you see the asymptote?
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Isn't that what Phi does?
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The idea is the same...if you can fulfill that which you claim in a myriad of circumstances you get paid for believing.

Its a hard thing to do.

Everyone questions themselves.

Even the idea of A I is to be able to rein Things in consistently.

How would you act if you found yourself among your gods?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I think I've 'felt God' or something very close.? I feel the bliss rather regularly, but that was something else, altogether.

Can't exist here and there.

One or the other. There is nothing but God there. Not even light. I couldn't do anything. Because I only barely existed. I didn't. I was pushed back here.

To awareness. Awareness that now included that. And what I was without.

I wondered for many years if that was a person. I still don't know.
 Quoting: Seer777


God to me is simply perfect action.

Like the rest of the world; I pretend and practice.

What we believe moment to moment to be god we put under the blade
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Maybe it was a black hole. It was tremendously heavy. Infinitely heavy.

That's all it was, but that was enough.

Either way, It touched me 3 times over that one Summer and that was it. 2013.

Whatever it was, it never came back. Even though I wanted it to. Not like that.
 Quoting: Seer777


As cheech would say: responsibility is a heavy responsibility.

The solipsistic palindrome.

We proje t ourselves in a self reflective kabuki theatre.
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Do you see the asymptote?
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Isn't that what Phi does?
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Variability decreases as it extends into the infinite.
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Do you see the asymptote?
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Isn't that what Phi does?
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Variability decreases as it extends into the infinite.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Now the infinite itself is a projection of linear probability.

Its where math enters the murk of philosophy.
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I think I've 'felt God' or something very close.? I feel the bliss rather regularly, but that was something else, altogether.

Can't exist here and there.

One or the other. There is nothing but God there. Not even light. I couldn't do anything. Because I only barely existed. I didn't. I was pushed back here.

To awareness. Awareness that now included that. And what I was without.

I wondered for many years if that was a person. I still don't know.
 Quoting: Seer777


God to me is simply perfect action.

Like the rest of the world; I pretend and practice.

What we believe moment to moment to be god we put under the blade
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Maybe it was a black hole. It was tremendously heavy. Infinitely heavy.

That's all it was, but that was enough.

Either way, It touched me 3 times over that one Summer and that was it. 2013.

Whatever it was, it never came back. Even though I wanted it to. Not like that.
 Quoting: Seer777


As cheech would say: responsibility is a heavy responsibility.

The solipsistic palindrome.

We proje t ourselves in a self reflective kabuki theatre.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It led me in a lot of different directions and there was significant fallout due my search.

I had to know. Yet I still don't. Heh.

heavyele
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God to me is simply perfect action.

Like the rest of the world; I pretend and practice.

What we believe moment to moment to be god we put under the blade
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Maybe it was a black hole. It was tremendously heavy. Infinitely heavy.

That's all it was, but that was enough.

Either way, It touched me 3 times over that one Summer and that was it. 2013.

Whatever it was, it never came back. Even though I wanted it to. Not like that.
 Quoting: Seer777


As cheech would say: responsibility is a heavy responsibility.

The solipsistic palindrome.

We proje t ourselves in a self reflective kabuki theatre.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It led me in a lot of different directions and there was significant fallout due my search.

I had to know. Yet I still don't. Heh.

:heavyele:
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By definition it cant be a knowing. A compulsion is fueled by its opposite.

In this case a ceaseless need is fueled by an endless desire.

Always the koan that rolls off the ducks feathers.
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Its ongoing.

Again..the fundamental yen is the drive forward.

The path of least resistance is a vacuum...like a magnet...it impels.