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Saudi Prince Muhammad is on eve of accession, plans war on Iran, with Israeli attack on Hizballah

 
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Saudi Prince Muhammad is on eve of accession, plans war on Iran, with Israeli attack on Hizballah
The next Saudi King Crown Prince Muhammad and Israel agree that Iran is the biggest threat to the region, but Israel’s top soldier rules out initiating an attack on Hizballah.

Two London publications on the same day, Thursday, Nov. 17, shed unusual light on the next chapter in Saud royal history, as well as on the hitherto semi-clandestine ties between Riyadh and Jerusalem.

The London Daily Mail, quoting “a source close to the Saudi royal family” reported that King Salman, 91, intends to give up the throne next week and name his son, Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman, 32 as his successor. The king will reportedly confine himself to ceremonial duties like “the queen of England,” retaining only the title of “Custodian of the Holy Shrines.”

Near two weeks ago, Prince Muhammad ordered 500 notables, including princes, former ministers and business leaders detained on charges of corruption. The British newspaper carried the first photos of the distinguished detainees sleeping on mattresses on the floor of the five-star Carlton Ritz Riyadh.
After he is crowned king, the prince will focus on Iran, according the Daily Mail. His plan is “to start the fire in Lebanon, in the hope of Israeli military backing.” He is convinced he has to hit Iran and Hizballah – contrary to the advice of the royal family – and will enlist the help of the Israeli military to crush Hizballah, for which he has promised Israel billions of dollars if they agree.”
The source stressed: MBS can’t confront Hizballah in Lebanon without Israel. The Daily Mail did not reveal how Israel sees this proposition – only that the prince has a Plan B: to fight Hizballah in Syria. Neither did its source explain how this would come about amid a crumbling Syrian insurgency.
DEBKAfile’s Middle East sources note that rumors of King Salman’s imminent abdication and handover to his son Muhammad have been around for some time and are credible, given the monarch’s failing health. Many of the hundreds of high-profile figures he placed under detention on Nov. 4 are opposed to his accession.

That the Crown Prince will focus on Iran is also credible – except that more than a year ago, he declared that Saudi Arabia was at war with the Islamic Republic in Yemen and it is not going very well. The Saudis and their allies, the UAE, are stuck in a standoff with the Iranian-backed Yemeni Houthi rebels. Iran moreover threatens their ports and capital cities with missile strikes. However, when the Houthis fired a ballistic missile supplied by Iran at Riyadh international Airport on Nov. 4, Prince Muhammad called it an act of war.

He is turning to Israel and its armed forces, not just as the only reliable military and intelligence force capable of handling the opening shots of the war on Iran, but out of their shared perception of Iran as the biggest threat to the Middle East. He moreover no longer expects active and determined participation in fighting Iran from the US under President Donald Trump. On this last point, Saudi Arabia and Israel are divided.
In an interview with the London-based, Saudi-owned news site Elaph – his first with a Saudi publication – that was published on the same day as the Daily Mail story, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen Gady Eisenkot laid out what he thinks are Iran’s ambitions in the Middle East: “The Iranian plan is to control the Middle East by means of two Shiite crescents. The first from Iran through Iraq to Syria and Lebanon, and the second from Bahrain through to Yemen until the Red Sea,” he said, adding: “This is what must be prevented in the region.”



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This guy I'm pretty sure is the 3rd anti-Christ...he has the potential to set the world on fire?...
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I would say the Saudis and the Israelis can handle it, there has been ample military needs provided and made by them, own selves.
There will be the need to watch out and cover the areas surrounding the outside of ME, as well as in the nations these engaged in warfare have entered into outside their own nations.
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not gonna happen - plans have been squashed
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This guy I'm pretty sure is the 3rd anti-Christ...he has the potential to set the world on fire?...
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These who are wrestling against the mentioned ones have also infiltrated areas outside the ME in our nations.
They have been wrestling to gain control over foreign policy to sway it over to them.
They either work it out and it be trustworthy or it will not ever be settled or stable.
It will go one way or another we have interest in both parties mentioned and in peace.
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I still say this whole thing is a Saudi Israeli play at manipulating the oil futures market...Ally and start beating the war drums. prices go up...
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I wouldn't worry. Saudi and Israel already were collaborating along with Qatar & Egypt (MBs) to invade Syria for "regime change". That didn't work out. Just because they are "openly" admitting their "unity" doesn't mean anything.
B4 they were going to invade Syria, then take on Lebanon and then war against Iran.
Now they simply are going to be head-on about it.
I wouldn't worry.
Now that Pakistan is lining up with Iran, as well as Iraq, Israel and House of Saud should be gone soon, or at least diminished to the point of irrelevancy in the ME.
As soon as petrol-dollar is toast, and reset done, the US will stay out of ME and pivot to Africa as they are now.

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I saw those articles yesterday. Much more than just interesting
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I hope President Trump has the guts to stand up to Israel and the Saudis. Let them handle it on their own. It's not our fight, and we need to stay out of it.
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I hope President Trump has the guts to stand up to Israel and the Saudis. Let them handle it on their own. It's not our fight, and we need to stay out of it.
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The only reason the Saudis and Israel are embolden enough to take on Iran is because they know Trump has their backs...
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I would say the Saudis and the Israelis can handle it, there has been ample military needs provided and made by them, own selves.
There will be the need to watch out and cover the areas surrounding the outside of ME, as well as in the nations these engaged in warfare have entered into outside their own nations.
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You're dreaming if you think we don't get involved. Of course, none of this will happen without our permission. Something fairly substantial will have to happen first. And I ran will have to at least appear responsible, otherwise this doesn't happen.
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I wouldn't worry. Saudi and Israel already were collaborating along with Qatar & Egypt (MBs) to invade Syria for "regime change". That didn't work out. Just because they are "openly" admitting their "unity" doesn't mean anything.
B4 they were going to invade Syria, then take on Lebanon and then war against Iran.
Now they simply are going to be head-on about it.
I wouldn't worry.
Now that Pakistan is lining up with Iran, as well as Iraq, Israel and House of Saud should be gone soon, or at least diminished to the point of irrelevancy in the ME.
As soon as petrol-dollar is toast, and reset done, the US will stay out of ME and pivot to Africa as they are now.
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I hope you're right about the Saudis, and Israel becoming irrelevant, but I think you are being too optimistic. I think this could get very messy, and protracted. I see President Trump being pressured by all the military people he has around him, into getting America involved. There is a good chance that would be a proxy war with Russia on the other side, with the Iranians. This situation has great potential to get out of control. A lot of prophets have said WW3 would start in the middle east, this could be it.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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I hope President Trump has the guts to stand up to Israel and the Saudis. Let them handle it on their own. It's not our fight, and we need to stay out of it.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


The only reason the Saudis and Israel are embolden enough to take on Iran is because they know Trump has their backs...
 Quoting: King Triad


Only if he listens to the generals he has surrounded himself with. Sometimes he stands on his own beliefs. We can only hope.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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I hope President Trump has the guts to stand up to Israel and the Saudis. Let them handle it on their own. It's not our fight, and we need to stay out of it.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


The only reason the Saudis and Israel are embolden enough to take on Iran is because they know Trump has their backs...
 Quoting: King Triad


Only if he listens to the generals he has surrounded himself with. Sometimes he stands on his own beliefs. We can only hope.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


You gotta remember Trumps only experience with war is blowing up an abandoned air field...he will be following those generals like a puppy when people start dying...
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They said he stood down before and it was false and they said he wasn't going to stand down. Now back to saying he's standing down?
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Lets hope that Trump will refuse to participate in any ME wars.
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Just maybe this talk/speculation is finally biblical. Up until now many many posts were more hopeful than not. I hope this is it. Darn I used the word hope.
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Just maybe this talk/speculation is finally biblical. Up until now many many posts were more hopeful than not. I hope this is it. Darn I used the word hope.
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I hope too.
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Take a look at some hidden history of the Middle East, do a search for "The Dönmeh: The Middle East’s Most Whispered Secret" You'll find a journal article from 'strategic culture' with that title, it's in two parts.

Fascinating stuff about bloodline connections...
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MBS is going to drive Arabia straight into the ground in record time.
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Debka is a useless source, but yeah, the entire 'crack down on corruption' has jut been a way for Muhammad to steal money from his siblings to fund a war with Iran.

Arabs dream of reviving the old empire especially now that all the Western powers are cucked by them.
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MBS is going to drive Arabia straight into the ground in record time.
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I hope so. If they take down Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain and the UAE so much the better.
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Take a look at some hidden history of the Middle East, do a search for "The Dönmeh: The Middle East’s Most Whispered Secret" You'll find a journal article from 'strategic culture' with that title, it's in two parts.

Fascinating stuff about bloodline connections...
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Very interesting read!
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You think Russia et all are just going to let Saud do this you might think again.
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Saudi Arabia can't even beat barefooted Yemenis. So how are they going to handle the full military might of Iran? Makes me chuckle.
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Saudi Arabia can't even beat barefooted Yemenis. So how are they going to handle the full military might of Iran? Makes me chuckle.
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With Israel and the US helping them that's how...
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He's the last Mahdi.





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