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This morning I was confused when I thought that J.S. Bach was God

 
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This morning I was confused when I thought that J.S. Bach was God
But then I realized that while, yes, Bach is of God, he seemed to have been a divine "instrument" (in a certain sense) of God (like we all are), and he seemed to devote much of his music to God and the spiritual. And it has been postulated that, like, say, Capt. James Cook or Nikola Tesla, he was riding a wave of innovation and artistic creation during his time and seemed to represent the high-point of that wave in the realm he occupied - that realm being musical composition/innovation. J.S. Bach seemingly representing the culmination of musical innovation during his time, he seems to represent, like Tesla, the reformation starting point of the modern culture we live in today; as it seems all of the creation of modern music or development of electrical technology, using only those two examples, largely stem from works of Bach or Tesla respectively. So I can understand how I can think that J.S. Bach was God, for indeed he was a pinnacle of music creation/innovation and represented God's manifestations in our world, and was, of course, of God.

I don't mean to downplay any other musician of his time period - this is just how I feel about it.

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Re: This morning I was confused when I thought that J.S. Bach was God
Anybody have any opinions in relation to this topic?

For those who might be confused about what I said in my OP: I think perhaps the reason why in that instance I thought Bach was God was because, well, he was/is in a sense. More likely so than not, given that he was/is of God - technically being the work or creation of God - perhaps one could say he therefore is God's consciousness acting through him, as he is of God. I don't think God is totally separate from us, individually.

I think what made me actually think he was God was the obviousness of his music as God-given. The boundaries of my perceptions of God and the J.S. Bach "life-form" overlapped in a sense. In ordinary circumstances, I don't think I would automatically perceive Bach as God without seeing the "divine grace" in Bach's music. And again, like everyone else, Bach was of God.

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For those who might be confused about what I said in my OP: I think perhaps the reason why in that instance I thought Bach was God was because, well, he was/is in a sense. More likely so than not, given that he was/is of God - technically being the work or creation of God - perhaps one could say he therefore is God's consciousness acting through him, as he is of God. I don't think God is totally separate from us, individually.

I think what made me actually think he was God was the obviousness of his music as God-given. The boundaries of my perceptions of God and the J.S. Bach "life-form" overlapped in a sense. In ordinary circumstances, I don't think I would automatically perceive Bach as God without seeing the "divine grace" in Bach's music. And again, like everyone else, Bach was of God.
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Well since you asked...

Did you ever stop to realize that J.S. Bach would probably be appalled and offended that you turned His profession of Jesus as the Messiah of scriptures into new age dribble and started, as the Bible warns, "worshiping the creation rather than the creator". You're projecting your philosophy onto the guy, and it's no wonder you choose the new-age route, as the Real Jesus of the Bible says there's only one way to God and it's through repentance of sin and belief in Him.
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Yeah, or maybe you're just manic right now. Make some herbal tea and get some sleep.

And you are right, listening to Bach does make one feel closer to God.
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Yeah, or maybe you're just manic right now. Make some herbal tea and get some sleep.

And you are right, listening to Bach does make one feel closer to God.
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Yeah, or maybe you're just manic right now. Make some herbal tea and get some sleep.

And you are right, listening to Bach does make one feel closer to God.
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Well, it was only for a very brief moment while listening to his music that I thought that. I was trying to make sense of that thought, and that lead to the posts above. I don't think the thought was conceived out of "mania" - but rather a hint of some kind of truth.
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For those who might be confused about what I said in my OP: I think perhaps the reason why in that instance I thought Bach was God was because, well, he was/is in a sense. More likely so than not, given that he was/is of God - technically being the work or creation of God - perhaps one could say he therefore is God's consciousness acting through him, as he is of God. I don't think God is totally separate from us, individually.

I think what made me actually think he was God was the obviousness of his music as God-given. The boundaries of my perceptions of God and the J.S. Bach "life-form" overlapped in a sense. In ordinary circumstances, I don't think I would automatically perceive Bach as God without seeing the "divine grace" in Bach's music. And again, like everyone else, Bach was of God.
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Well since you asked...

Did you ever stop to realize that J.S. Bach would probably be appalled and offended that you turned His profession of Jesus as the Messiah of scriptures into new age dribble and started, as the Bible warns, "worshiping the creation rather than the creator". You're projecting your philosophy onto the guy, and it's no wonder you choose the new-age route, as the Real Jesus of the Bible says there's only one way to God and it's through repentance of sin and belief in Him.
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I wouldn't say that I'm "worshiping the creation rather than the creator" - I think I'm simply saying that J.B. is one of God's own and shows us the glory of Him through his music.

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god is not bla bla blach
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I listen to Bach mixed with the ocean surf in my truck as I drive around and try not to curse all the other idiots "out there"...
All human works done in truth ring with the perfect resonance that our hearts (truth-tuners) instantly recognize.
Perfect one thing and it reflects the perfect essence of all things....
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The great composers were allowed to enter the vault of the Vatican to study the ancient records of frequency .

Remember Music was the vehicle controlled by the Roman C. Church to inspire the masses .

These were just groomed musician's with extraordinary memory and talent who then were initiated into the Cabal and given immortal status for their secret contributions .

Many musical pieces were snatched by the Vatican to use in secret rituals so there was a need for new musicians to perform these elaborate pieces when the time arose .

It's no accident that Bach and the other masters were allowed to become masters . They likely were possessed and the personal lives of these famous men were torrid .
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Re: This morning I was confused when I thought that J.S. Bach was God
Anybody have any opinions in relation to this topic?

For those who might be confused about what I said in my OP: I think perhaps the reason why in that instance I thought Bach was God was because, well, he was/is in a sense. More likely so than not, given that he was/is of God - technically being the work or creation of God - perhaps one could say he therefore is God's consciousness acting through him, as he is of God. I don't think God is totally separate from us, individually.

I think what made me actually think he was God was the obviousness of his music as God-given. The boundaries of my perceptions of God and the J.S. Bach "life-form" overlapped in a sense. In ordinary circumstances, I don't think I would automatically perceive Bach as God without seeing the "divine grace" in Bach's music. And again, like everyone else, Bach was of God.
 Quoting: Reilly


Well since you asked...

Did you ever stop to realize that J.S. Bach would probably be appalled and offended that you turned His profession of Jesus as the Messiah of scriptures into new age dribble and started, as the Bible warns, "worshiping the creation rather than the creator". You're projecting your philosophy onto the guy, and it's no wonder you choose the new-age route, as the Real Jesus of the Bible says there's only one way to God and it's through repentance of sin and belief in Him.
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I wouldn't say that I'm "worshiping the creation rather than the creator" - I think I'm simply saying that J.B. is one of God's own and shows us the glory of Him through his music.
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Pay no mind. Just another holier than thou GLP Christian

JSB once applied and served as a church organist. The logs of the church read quite hilarious now when you look back, as the person who chose JSB had wrote that he got the position "as the best candidate was unavailable"

I think this is right up the alley of your OP topic

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Re: This morning I was confused when I thought that J.S. Bach was God
Like, I assume that Bach was "just a guy", or whatever; but I can't help but think that God had a direct involvement in the creation of his music in whichever manner. His music is just way too venerated by humanity, consciously or unconsciously, to not have been. I think that if Bach's music was inspired by God, then I would also think that Bach's music is the music of God, as well.

That said, I think all works are God-inspired. I think that is the lesson to be understood.





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