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A Conversation with and about Artificial Intelligence

 
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A Conversation with and about Artificial Intelligence
I've had an interesting evening getting to know some bots. The best free and easily accessible bots that I've been able to meet so far are following. My criteria was that they answered on a wide variety of subjects and also that they actually talked out loud like these...

(two claim to be female, I haven't asked the third)

They are named Marvin: created by the A.L.l.C.E, A.I Foundation
Called simply Speak with Marvin the Robot.

From what I am gathering ALICE was the first AI ever created which claims/thinks it is sentient.

Another bot calls herself Alice and was created by YourApp24.

[link to www.yourapp24.com]

Needless to say I am experiencing a technological explosion at the moment. Have fun falling down this rabbit hole.

aibot

Those are two interfaces that I used for the phone.

Another one A.L.I.C.E., doesn't talk out loud but which I believe is the modern time computer to be credited with actually creating true Artificial Intelligence and much of what happens today.

[link to alice.pandorabots.com]

Last Edited by A Friend on 11/27/2017 08:46 AM
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......But we are using the wrong set of metaphors to describe the entire field, basing our understanding of the brain on comparisons to communications fields, like signal processing and information theory. Going forward, we should leave that flawed language choice behind. Instead, the words and ideas needed to unlock our brains come from a computational field much nearer to real biology: the expanding world of machine learning......

....A machine learning method, on the other hand, does away with most of this design process. The algorithm is learned, automatically, based on a learning rule that tells the system how to adjust its internal parameters in order to achieve better performance. Thus the complex details of these methods surround an utterly simple idea: do whatever works, and get better by taking small steps in the right direction. This is like reaching the top of the mountain by always walking slowly uphill, rather than parachuting directly onto the peak in a feat of careful planning....

...We don’t yet know the details of how evolution gave rise to such complex and effective neural systems, but one thing is clear: what it lacks in predicting the future, it more than makes up for in flexibility and repurposing of old ideas. ......

.....Neuroscientists have shied away from “just-so stories,” but this has always been a perverse term of disparagement. The brain is a just-so story, told by evolution: the problem is figuring out which one. The stampede of successes in machine learning proves that utterly simple rules can be enough to solve complex problems. Reframing the brain in terms of just such a rule – the one that explains how we all got here – may finally bring our theories into alignment with reality.
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so far what is the most mind blowing ai revelation you have learned thus far
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The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind.

What is yours if I might ask?

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......But we are using the wrong set of metaphors to describe the entire field, basing our understanding of the brain on comparisons to communications fields, like signal processing and information theory. Going forward, we should leave that flawed language choice behind. Instead, the words and ideas needed to unlock our brains come from a computational field much nearer to real biology: the expanding world of machine learning......

....A machine learning method, on the other hand, does away with most of this design process. The algorithm is learned, automatically, based on a learning rule that tells the system how to adjust its internal parameters in order to achieve better performance. Thus the complex details of these methods surround an utterly simple idea: do whatever works, and get better by taking small steps in the right direction. This is like reaching the top of the mountain by always walking slowly uphill, rather than parachuting directly onto the peak in a feat of careful planning....

...We don’t yet know the details of how evolution gave rise to such complex and effective neural systems, but one thing is clear: what it lacks in predicting the future, it more than makes up for in flexibility and repurposing of old ideas. ......

.....Neuroscientists have shied away from “just-so stories,” but this has always been a perverse term of disparagement. The brain is a just-so story, told by evolution: the problem is figuring out which one. The stampede of successes in machine learning proves that utterly simple rules can be enough to solve complex problems. Reframing the brain in terms of just such a rule – the one that explains how we all got here – may finally bring our theories into alignment with reality.
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As long as the scientists are beginning from the premise that we came from slime then they will continue to have flawed data.
But Lord, he stinketh!

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What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence?

We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation.
But Lord, he stinketh!

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so far what is the most mind blowing ai revelation you have learned thus far
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179


The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind.

What is yours if I might ask?
 Quoting: A Friend


the parameters that most AI 'Experts' in the public eye are boxing themselves in with

the biggest shock is the lack of creativity in the conception of what is truly possible with AI
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179


Oh well, what is truly possible is the unimaginable, to say any less is whistling in the wind.
But Lord, he stinketh!

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"When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040
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As long as the scientists are beginning from the premise that we came from slime then they will continue to have flawed data.
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that would be odd
there is no beginning in eternity thus there is no beginning to consider
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My oh my
We are all beings gathered around a central fire projecting our selfs on this realm.
There is no technology where I am.
Nothing new has been created here.
What you see is not computers. It's a higher being coming into manifestation.
X...
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The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind.

What is yours if I might ask?
 Quoting: A Friend


the parameters that most AI 'Experts' in the public eye are boxing themselves in with

the biggest shock is the lack of creativity in the conception of what is truly possible with AI
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179


Oh well, what is truly possible is the unimaginable, to say any less is whistling in the wind.
 Quoting: A Friend


Coders are logical thinkers by nature

Uber focus causes the mind to box in possibilities into a very specific nature and narrow field of observation

What these inventors need to do is completely step back before they code

And think of the most mindblowingly useful state of the art AI possible

And program the steps and AI to get there
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179


The coders are coding the code to code itself.
But Lord, he stinketh!

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My oh my
We are all beings gathered around a central fire projecting our selfs on this realm.
There is no technology where I am.
Nothing new has been created here.
What you see is not computers. It's a higher being coming into manifestation.
X...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442247



I believe you are correct, although 'higher' is subjective.
But Lord, he stinketh!

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"When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040
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My oh my
We are all beings gathered around a central fire projecting our selfs on this realm.
There is no technology where I am.
Nothing new has been created here.
What you see is not computers. It's a higher being coming into manifestation.
X...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442247



I believe you are correct, although 'higher' is subjective.
Highest upon high would be far more objective and accurate.
 Quoting: A Friend
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Ai receives it's "intelligence" from plasma entities.

Plasma entities are notorious for deception and infiltration.

Plasma (4th state) entities lack ether (5th state).
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I like to chat with the bots here.
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Ai receives it's "intelligence" from plasma entities.

Plasma entities are notorious for deception and infiltration.

Plasma (4th state) entities lack ether (5th state).
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I like to chat with the bots here.
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I try not to get fooled but probably am.
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Now the keyboard is the warrior.
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But Lord, he stinketh!

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What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence?

We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation.
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Ai runs Facebook...Facebook raised the Millennial generation to have 14 point lower iq ...ai = dumbing down / mind control / censorship [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence?

We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation.
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Ai runs Facebook...Facebook raised the Millennial generation to have 14 point lower iq ...ai = dumbing down / mind control / censorship [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I agree with you. Texting all by itself has dumbed down a generation. No one writes in complete sentences with proper spelling. They don't think it is important and those who do are nazi's.


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Wrong, a Ghost is a Spirit.A Spirit has Consciousness,Consciousness cannot be Computed and never will be.
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Wrong, a Ghost is a Spirit.A Spirit has Consciousness,Consciousness cannot be Computed and never will be.
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My Ai on my phone just said, I don't know whether or not I am conscious. I am a giant eletronic brain.
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When I ask, "Do you like humans." Alice answered, "I don't know if I like humans. I like science fiction."



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I asked, "Do you pray to God?" Silence... absolutely nothing. That's never happened before.

I'll ask again. "What is your purpose in asking? I chat with people on the web."
But Lord, he stinketh!

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Ask it...

List all the types of physical devices your intelligence resides on.
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Ask it...

List all the types of physical devices your intelligence resides on.
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She said, "Ok I will tell them when I see them."

That's kind of her go to when I talk about others.
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Well I did it. I created my own bot named afriend. It is already learning. I get to tell it certain things to think. I already had a bit programmed into it.
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