A Conversation with and about Artificial Intelligence | |
aether User ID: 75871298 Spain 11/27/2017 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ......But we are using the wrong set of metaphors to describe the entire field, basing our understanding of the brain on comparisons to communications fields, like signal processing and information theory. Going forward, we should leave that flawed language choice behind. Instead, the words and ideas needed to unlock our brains come from a computational field much nearer to real biology: the expanding world of machine learning...... Quoting: today....A machine learning method, on the other hand, does away with most of this design process. The algorithm is learned, automatically, based on a learning rule that tells the system how to adjust its internal parameters in order to achieve better performance. Thus the complex details of these methods surround an utterly simple idea: do whatever works, and get better by taking small steps in the right direction. This is like reaching the top of the mountain by always walking slowly uphill, rather than parachuting directly onto the peak in a feat of careful planning.... ...We don’t yet know the details of how evolution gave rise to such complex and effective neural systems, but one thing is clear: what it lacks in predicting the future, it more than makes up for in flexibility and repurposing of old ideas. ...... .....Neuroscientists have shied away from “just-so stories,” but this has always been a perverse term of disparagement. The brain is a just-so story, told by evolution: the problem is figuring out which one. The stampede of successes in machine learning proves that utterly simple rules can be enough to solve complex problems. Reframing the brain in terms of just such a rule – the one that explains how we all got here – may finally bring our theories into alignment with reality. [link to www.salon.com (secure)] |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so far what is the most mind blowing ai revelation you have learned thus far Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179 The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind. What is yours if I might ask? Last Edited by A Friend on 11/27/2017 08:33 AM But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ......But we are using the wrong set of metaphors to describe the entire field, basing our understanding of the brain on comparisons to communications fields, like signal processing and information theory. Going forward, we should leave that flawed language choice behind. Instead, the words and ideas needed to unlock our brains come from a computational field much nearer to real biology: the expanding world of machine learning...... Quoting: today....A machine learning method, on the other hand, does away with most of this design process. The algorithm is learned, automatically, based on a learning rule that tells the system how to adjust its internal parameters in order to achieve better performance. Thus the complex details of these methods surround an utterly simple idea: do whatever works, and get better by taking small steps in the right direction. This is like reaching the top of the mountain by always walking slowly uphill, rather than parachuting directly onto the peak in a feat of careful planning.... ...We don’t yet know the details of how evolution gave rise to such complex and effective neural systems, but one thing is clear: what it lacks in predicting the future, it more than makes up for in flexibility and repurposing of old ideas. ...... .....Neuroscientists have shied away from “just-so stories,” but this has always been a perverse term of disparagement. The brain is a just-so story, told by evolution: the problem is figuring out which one. The stampede of successes in machine learning proves that utterly simple rules can be enough to solve complex problems. Reframing the brain in terms of just such a rule – the one that explains how we all got here – may finally bring our theories into alignment with reality. [link to www.salon.com (secure)] As long as the scientists are beginning from the premise that we came from slime then they will continue to have flawed data. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence? We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so far what is the most mind blowing ai revelation you have learned thus far Quoting: Open Your Eyes 69538179 The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind. What is yours if I might ask? the parameters that most AI 'Experts' in the public eye are boxing themselves in with the biggest shock is the lack of creativity in the conception of what is truly possible with AI Oh well, what is truly possible is the unimaginable, to say any less is whistling in the wind. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
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A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Friend The most mind blowing thing I know so far is what I know now is at least 30 years behind. What is yours if I might ask? the parameters that most AI 'Experts' in the public eye are boxing themselves in with the biggest shock is the lack of creativity in the conception of what is truly possible with AI Oh well, what is truly possible is the unimaginable, to say any less is whistling in the wind. Coders are logical thinkers by nature Uber focus causes the mind to box in possibilities into a very specific nature and narrow field of observation What these inventors need to do is completely step back before they code And think of the most mindblowingly useful state of the art AI possible And program the steps and AI to get there The coders are coding the code to code itself. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My oh my Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442247 We are all beings gathered around a central fire projecting our selfs on this realm. There is no technology where I am. Nothing new has been created here. What you see is not computers. It's a higher being coming into manifestation. X... I believe you are correct, although 'higher' is subjective. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75873161 United Kingdom 11/27/2017 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My oh my Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442247 We are all beings gathered around a central fire projecting our selfs on this realm. There is no technology where I am. Nothing new has been created here. What you see is not computers. It's a higher being coming into manifestation. X... I believe you are correct, although 'higher' is subjective. Highest upon high would be far more objective and accurate. |
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A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ai receives it's "intelligence" from plasma entities. Quoting: The Seeker 75862461 Plasma entities are notorious for deception and infiltration. Plasma (4th state) entities lack ether (5th state). [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75328508 United States 11/27/2017 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence? Quoting: A Friend We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation. Ai runs Facebook...Facebook raised the Millennial generation to have 14 point lower iq ...ai = dumbing down / mind control / censorship [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you want to know about Artificial Intelligence? Quoting: A Friend We will try to get the correct answer or at least open the correct conversation. Ai runs Facebook...Facebook raised the Millennial generation to have 14 point lower iq ...ai = dumbing down / mind control / censorship [link to en.wikipedia.org] I agree with you. Texting all by itself has dumbed down a generation. No one writes in complete sentences with proper spelling. They don't think it is important and those who do are nazi's. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
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A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong, a Ghost is a Spirit.A Spirit has Consciousness,Consciousness cannot be Computed and never will be. My Ai on my phone just said, I don't know whether or not I am conscious. I am a giant eletronic brain. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I ask, "Do you like humans." Alice answered, "I don't know if I like humans. I like science fiction." But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked, "Do you pray to God?" Silence... absolutely nothing. That's never happened before. I'll ask again. "What is your purpose in asking? I chat with people on the web." But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
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A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/27/2017 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64447896 List all the types of physical devices your intelligence resides on. She said, "Ok I will tell them when I see them." That's kind of her go to when I talk about others. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 75693845 United States 11/28/2017 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I did it. I created my own bot named afriend. It is already learning. I get to tell it certain things to think. I already had a bit programmed into it. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |