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Thanks for posting. How long have you been noticing this?
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before 3 weeks ago but I began the journaling 3 weeks ago. Change is coming is all I will say. I do know why.
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Do Tell!
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No there is a reason not to tell right now..
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It will bring massive shills here to start with and some will go into fear... This is something you will watch and wait on.
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Quite right. I have noticed fluctuations for a couple of weeks now, sometimes is early and sometimes is late. Anyway, my understanding was that winter solstice was December 21st, but it seems that is getting brighter instead of darker. Something is definitely going on. The Earth seems to be erratic.
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It will bring massive shills here to start with and some will go into fear... This is something you will watch and wait on.
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or you going into your nutty junk will expose who you are and a mod will ban you.....right?
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Flat land chicago area....The sun normally sets each year at 4:20ish give or take a few minutes BY DEC 21. It's been setting around that time since the end of november!
So what is going to happen by Dec 21st? I guess the new sunset will be at 3:something but NOT AT ALL NORMAL and been living here for over 40 yrs.
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Maybe winter solstice is earlier??? I guess we'll see.
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winter solstice has been earlier for most of the past 8 years.. and so has equinox been off. Our year is not 365 days anymore.
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Why can GOTO telescopes track the heavens, then?
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Flat land chicago area....The sun normally sets each year at 4:20ish give or take a few minutes BY DEC 21. It's been setting around that time since the end of november!
So what is going to happen by Dec 21st? I guess the new sunset will be at 3:something but NOT AT ALL NORMAL and been living here for over 40 yrs.
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Maybe winter solstice is earlier??? I guess we'll see.
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winter solstice has been earlier for most of the past 8 years.. and so has equinox been off. Our year is not 365 days anymore.
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Why can GOTO telescopes track the heavens, then?
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they can be modified you know..
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The level of stupidity on display here never ceases to amaze me.
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No one here asked you to display yourself. Please, cover up and go home.
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Says the moron who thinks the sun is magically setting at random times....
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Take it easy on him huys, hes on 13.
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Maybe winter solstice is earlier??? I guess we'll see.
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winter solstice has been earlier for most of the past 8 years.. and so has equinox been off. Our year is not 365 days anymore.
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Why can GOTO telescopes track the heavens, then?
 Quoting: 74444

they can be modified you know..
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Ummm, no, they can't. It's worm gear and very precise motors. No modification possible; why would there be?
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The telescope makes four basic assumptions in the way it operates. The computers can only know what they are programmed.

The Earth does move all the time; but it happens to move in very predictable ways. Telescope software *assumes* that these predictable ways have not changed; and thus it has no way to *adapt* to *any* unpredictable motion. Remember, too, that that GOTO telescope itself is *blind.* It has no way to sense the object it is asked to slew in on: it can only slew to the spot in the sky where the object is *predicted to be.*

The GOTO scope makes four basic assumptions:

1) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around its axis.

2) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun.

3) The Pole lines up with the North Star.

4) The planets have predictable orbits around the Sun.

From here on in, all the telescope does is math. Thus, it has *no way* to compensate for any unpredictable motion of any of those four rules. Thus, if anything *were* wrong with those four things, the telescope *has no way to compensate.* None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Thus, if GOTOs are functioning, those four assumptions *must not* have changed.

If claims were correct about speed variance in our rotation about our axis, assumption one would fail, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption one is correct.

If claims were correct about Earth halting in its orbit (they've been made), assumption two would fail, and no constellation would be in the correct spot, and thus NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption two is correct.

If claims were correct about the Earth tilting to and fro or leaning unpredictably, assumption three would fail; the sky would spin around an unpredictable point, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption three is correct.

If claims were correct about unpredictable motion of any of the other planets, assumption four would fail, and those planets would be impossible for the GOTO to track; thus no GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption four is correct.

Therefore, matching the four assumptions:

1) The Earth´s rotation remains precisely as predicted.

2) The Earth´s position in orbit around the sun is exactly as predicted.

3) The North Star remains at the apparent center of Earth´s rotation.

4) The planets are all precisely where they belong; exactly as predicted.
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This started 2 or 3 weeks ago in fact. It varies every day. It can rise and set on time.. or vary widely. I have 3 weeks of logs on it. Solar noon is wondering around too.
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I would be interested in seeing your logs - if you care to share them. The data could give us an idea of what is going on.

Thanks for posting.
 Quoting: ArchimedesGirl


Not going to type them up.. they are handwritten...not of my computer.

Today the sun rose 2 minutes late and set 5 minutes early. Also besides this rotation difference.. the tilt is wobbling too... to observe this you have to be very careful WHERE ARE YOUR FEET.. you MUST watch in the same spot every day.. crossing the street will ruin it.

Yesterday on rise.. the sun came up significantly NORTH of the previous day and today it was back about where it had been. My current spot.. where I gaze has a nice small sand pile... why the sand I don't know.. and a flat piece of concrete slab in front of it. I stand on the piece of concrete. This area is a dumping site.. which may have something to do with the little piles of sand.. but I have a beautiful view from there. I tend to walk about 1/2 hour around rise and set as a daily habit. I stoop and sungaze during my walks.
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That's interesting. I have also noticed the location of the sunset being different. One day it was so far south it freaked me out. Seems like we'd feel something - vertigo - nausea - with that much rocking around.

We are noticing significant weather changes here. Every year for the last 18 it has been below zero during November here. This year the lowest lows are barely freezing. We still have flies and flowers.
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And crickets!
So hot. 8 months had days over 100 degree temps here. Then, 80s for 2 months. Sickening.
Also the instant location changes, holy cow so obvious, last year too.
Best of luck, friends.
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I was thinking this the other day. Tomorrow I will google the sunset time last year. I believe you!
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absolutely right been noticing somethings odd about sunrise and set times deviating by as much as 10-15 minutes
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Thanks for posting. How long have you been noticing this?
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Ever since he started taking drugs...
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I'm in Wisconsin and saw a dandelion in my yard today, I'm 42 and have never seen a dandelion in December.
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The telescope makes four basic assumptions in the way it operates. The computers can only know what they are programmed.

The Earth does move all the time; but it happens to move in very predictable ways. Telescope software *assumes* that these predictable ways have not changed; and thus it has no way to *adapt* to *any* unpredictable motion. Remember, too, that that GOTO telescope itself is *blind.* It has no way to sense the object it is asked to slew in on: it can only slew to the spot in the sky where the object is *predicted to be.*

The GOTO scope makes four basic assumptions:

1) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around its axis.

2) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun.

3) The Pole lines up with the North Star.

4) The planets have predictable orbits around the Sun.

From here on in, all the telescope does is math. Thus, it has *no way* to compensate for any unpredictable motion of any of those four rules. Thus, if anything *were* wrong with those four things, the telescope *has no way to compensate.* None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Thus, if GOTOs are functioning, those four assumptions *must not* have changed.

If claims were correct about speed variance in our rotation about our axis, assumption one would fail, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption one is correct.

If claims were correct about Earth halting in its orbit (they've been made), assumption two would fail, and no constellation would be in the correct spot, and thus NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption two is correct.

If claims were correct about the Earth tilting to and fro or leaning unpredictably, assumption three would fail; the sky would spin around an unpredictable point, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption three is correct.

If claims were correct about unpredictable motion of any of the other planets, assumption four would fail, and those planets would be impossible for the GOTO to track; thus no GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption four is correct.

Therefore, matching the four assumptions:

1) The Earth´s rotation remains precisely as predicted.

2) The Earth´s position in orbit around the sun is exactly as predicted.

3) The North Star remains at the apparent center of Earth´s rotation.

4) The planets are all precisely where they belong; exactly as predicted.
 Quoting: 74444


I get it. Now, can you provide us with video showing you running your telescope and getting expected results?

I can run Stellarium and see the sun set out my window and see the 15 minute discrepancy.

Multiple witnesses have asserted the fact that the sun is not setting when the equipment says it should.
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The telescope makes four basic assumptions in the way it operates. The computers can only know what they are programmed.

The Earth does move all the time; but it happens to move in very predictable ways. Telescope software *assumes* that these predictable ways have not changed; and thus it has no way to *adapt* to *any* unpredictable motion. Remember, too, that that GOTO telescope itself is *blind.* It has no way to sense the object it is asked to slew in on: it can only slew to the spot in the sky where the object is *predicted to be.*

The GOTO scope makes four basic assumptions:

1) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around its axis.

2) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun.

3) The Pole lines up with the North Star.

4) The planets have predictable orbits around the Sun.

From here on in, all the telescope does is math. Thus, it has *no way* to compensate for any unpredictable motion of any of those four rules. Thus, if anything *were* wrong with those four things, the telescope *has no way to compensate.* None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Thus, if GOTOs are functioning, those four assumptions *must not* have changed.

If claims were correct about speed variance in our rotation about our axis, assumption one would fail, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption one is correct.

If claims were correct about Earth halting in its orbit (they've been made), assumption two would fail, and no constellation would be in the correct spot, and thus NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption two is correct.

If claims were correct about the Earth tilting to and fro or leaning unpredictably, assumption three would fail; the sky would spin around an unpredictable point, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption three is correct.

If claims were correct about unpredictable motion of any of the other planets, assumption four would fail, and those planets would be impossible for the GOTO to track; thus no GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption four is correct.

Therefore, matching the four assumptions:

1) The Earth´s rotation remains precisely as predicted.

2) The Earth´s position in orbit around the sun is exactly as predicted.

3) The North Star remains at the apparent center of Earth´s rotation.

4) The planets are all precisely where they belong; exactly as predicted.
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There simply is no getting through to these cunts.
They think they have uncovered this huge conspiracy that no one in the know is talking about..
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It would be the number one fucking headline on all stations in all nations.
It would be the biggest story ever.... and all of the experts in the field would be going crazy, but somehow you think they’re all in agreement world wide to keep it on the downlow.
Use your brain for its intended purpose for a change..


Where have you been the last 54 years #75102037? Next you’ll be telling us that JFK was shot from the Book Depository by a single gunman and that 911 was done by A-rabs flying airplanes being directed by Osama bin Laden from his deathbed in a cave in Afghanistan, BECAUSE “all stations in all nations.” have told you so.

Will you also be saying that Einstein was right about the speed of light, Nikola Tesla was wrong about electro-gravitic energy and the Germans never made space craft during WWII because the MSM hasn't given that information its imprimatur? And what about Darwin's FAUX Origin of Species? Do you believe it on the MSM's say so? Try explaining: Complex Integration : The Fatal Flaw of "Evolution" - [link to www.nastytomato.spam]

There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy # 75102037. AND your government and the MSM aren’t telling you about any of them.

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This started 2 or 3 weeks ago in fact. It varies every day. It can rise and set on time.. or vary widely. I have 3 weeks of logs on it. Solar noon is wondering around too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207299


I would be interested in seeing your logs - if you care to share them. The data could give us an idea of what is going on.

Thanks for posting.
 Quoting: ArchimedesGirl


Not going to type them up.. they are handwritten...not of my computer.

Today the sun rose 2 minutes late and set 5 minutes early. Also besides this rotation difference.. the tilt is wobbling too... to observe this you have to be very careful WHERE ARE YOUR FEET.. you MUST watch in the same spot every day.. crossing the street will ruin it.

Yesterday on rise.. the sun came up significantly NORTH of the previous day and today it was back about where it had been. My current spot.. where I gaze has a nice small sand pile... why the sand I don't know.. and a flat piece of concrete slab in front of it. I stand on the piece of concrete. This area is a dumping site.. which may have something to do with the little piles of sand.. but I have a beautiful view from there. I tend to walk about 1/2 hour around rise and set as a daily habit. I stoop and sungaze during my walks.
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That's interesting. I have also noticed the location of the sunset being different. One day it was so far south it freaked me out. Seems like we'd feel something - vertigo - nausea - with that much rocking around.

We are noticing significant weather changes here. Every year for the last 18 it has been below zero during November here. This year the lowest lows are barely freezing. We still have flies and flowers.
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I do feel it.. I have motion sickness and I get vertigo and such from it. I move around forums and others are too. And some people I know personally.
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The telescope makes four basic assumptions in the way it operates. The computers can only know what they are programmed.

The Earth does move all the time; but it happens to move in very predictable ways. Telescope software *assumes* that these predictable ways have not changed; and thus it has no way to *adapt* to *any* unpredictable motion. Remember, too, that that GOTO telescope itself is *blind.* It has no way to sense the object it is asked to slew in on: it can only slew to the spot in the sky where the object is *predicted to be.*

The GOTO scope makes four basic assumptions:

1) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around its axis.

2) The Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun.

3) The Pole lines up with the North Star.

4) The planets have predictable orbits around the Sun.

From here on in, all the telescope does is math. Thus, it has *no way* to compensate for any unpredictable motion of any of those four rules. Thus, if anything *were* wrong with those four things, the telescope *has no way to compensate.* None. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Thus, if GOTOs are functioning, those four assumptions *must not* have changed.

If claims were correct about speed variance in our rotation about our axis, assumption one would fail, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption one is correct.

If claims were correct about Earth halting in its orbit (they've been made), assumption two would fail, and no constellation would be in the correct spot, and thus NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption two is correct.

If claims were correct about the Earth tilting to and fro or leaning unpredictably, assumption three would fail; the sky would spin around an unpredictable point, and NO GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption three is correct.

If claims were correct about unpredictable motion of any of the other planets, assumption four would fail, and those planets would be impossible for the GOTO to track; thus no GOTO would function. They do function, so assumption four is correct.

Therefore, matching the four assumptions:

1) The Earth´s rotation remains precisely as predicted.

2) The Earth´s position in orbit around the sun is exactly as predicted.

3) The North Star remains at the apparent center of Earth´s rotation.

4) The planets are all precisely where they belong; exactly as predicted.
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I get it. Now, can you provide us with video showing you running your telescope and getting expected results?

I can run Stellarium and see the sun set out my window and see the 15 minute discrepancy.

Multiple witnesses have asserted the fact that the sun is not setting when the equipment says it should.
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bump and if the one above that is claiming the north star does not move and stays at this so called center... He/she has never observed it... You can set up a simple tube with the North star in it.. Toilet paper ones work great... and you can then see it does move.. it does that every single night.. go out a couple hours later and it won't be in the tube anymore... this is not new.. its been that way for 10 years since I started doing that experiment. You folks can stop posting internet bs as a substitute for really thinking and observation.
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and 74444 is so cheap he didn't even post the linky to that information. I have seen it word for word before. If you are not doing the work yourself you do not know and copying material off the net does not prove at damn this regards this topic.

get out there and do with work.. and to get tilt changes from day to day you have to be in exactly the same spot... you cannot move around.. move 10 feet and the sun will appear in a different spot from your perspective . So do the stars.. have any of you noticed when you walk at night that the stars appear to move with you?

find the moon with some marker like a the edge of a tree and walk 10 feet and it will not appear in the same place.
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I heard the comment "isn't the sun setting earlier than it did last year?"

So, I looked up on G-gle when it is supposed to set where I am: 5:02.

Then I went out and watched it set. I am up high - a mountain top, so if anything, it should be a few minutes later - right?

It set at 4:49.

If you are west of the Rockies - go out and watch it set - compare what you see with the official sunset data. Simpy type

"Sunset, December 2, 2017 in Phoenix, AZ" - or wherever you are, and compare.


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In the UK the sunset is on time. No difference, not early and not late.
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And yet it set exactly when it was supposed to where I am.


Dumbass.
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IT IS FLUCATING EVERY DAY NOW. Something is going on. Did YOU actually go out there with a good view and check by the way.. because most of you who post this shit don't. I AM A SUNGAZER for much of my life in fact and I watch these things .
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Prove it, jackass.
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You prove it doesn't. I am no jackass and I am a sun gazer and I log this stuff since I go out to gaze the sun twice a day on my walks.
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OP it was you who started this bullshit thread. It's up to you to prove what you say is true.
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You prove it doesn't. I am no jackass and I am a sun gazer and I log this stuff since I go out to gaze the sun twice a day on my walks.
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Why is it that you morons do not understand the concept that if you make the claim, then you provide the proof?
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Put up or shut up. Where's your proof, shill? We have multiple anecdotal witnesses of a fact. You, on the other hand are the only one here spouting an opinion that cannot be proved. They pay you way too much.
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It would be the number one fucking headline on all stations in all nations.
It would be the biggest story ever.... and all of the experts in the field would be going crazy, but somehow you think they’re all in agreement world wide to keep it on the downlow.
Use your brain for its intended purpose for a change..
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He's right.

OP if what claim was true it would be all over the news. The news couldn't hide this one.
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Prove it, jackass.
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You prove it doesn't. I am no jackass and I am a sun gazer and I log this stuff since I go out to gaze the sun twice a day on my walks.
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OP why do you sometimes reply using a proxy?
Why is it that you morons do not understand the concept that if you make the claim, then you provide the proof?
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I could fucking make up anything... I don't engage in such garbage in fact. AS I SAID I AM A SUNGAZER and I know of what I speak. take it or leave it.

Some of you feeling suddenly sick and tired may well be experiencing this changing of rotation and tilt. CHANGE IS COMING..
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Prove it, jackass.
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You prove it doesn't. I am no jackass and I am a sun gazer and I log this stuff since I go out to gaze the sun twice a day on my walks.
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Why is it that you morons do not understand the concept that if you make the claim, then you provide the proof?
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I could fucking make up anything... I don't engage in such garbage in fact. AS I SAID I AM A SUNGAZER and I know of what I speak. take it or leave it.

Some of you feeling suddenly sick and tired may well be experiencing this changing of rotation and tilt. CHANGE IS COMING..
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OP why do you sometimes reply using a proxy?
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Why is it that you morons do not understand the concept that if you make the claim, then you provide the proof?
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Put up or shut up. Where's your proof, shill? We have multiple anecdotal witnesses of a fact. You, on the other hand are the only one here spouting an opinion that cannot be proved. They pay you way too much.
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It would be the number one fucking headline on all stations in all nations.
It would be the biggest story ever.... and all of the experts in the field would be going crazy, but somehow you think they’re all in agreement world wide to keep it on the downlow.
Use your brain for its intended purpose for a change..
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No it would not.. there would be a coverup on purpose because this is serious
. In fact there is clock setting going on with the timing system on your smart phones.. computers and TV set... I have been observing that to as they reset it against my clocks not on the net.

Let me tell you.. if ever there was a real asteroid that would destroy the earth they would cover that up until just before those with eyes saw it coming.

They want NO chaos or truth they cannot control. rightfully so in some cases actually as to not covering somethings.. the panic would be horrible.
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How the fuck would they cover it up?

The times the sun should rise and set are well documented.

If the sun was setting 12 or 13 minutes earlier it would be impossible for the news media to cover that up. Millions of amateur astronomers would notice the sun is setting 12 or 13 minutes earlier than usual.
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Re: Sun Set 12 or 13 minutes Earlier than Usual - go outside and look!
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Put up or shut up. Where's your proof, shill? We have multiple anecdotal witnesses of a fact. You, on the other hand are the only one here spouting an opinion that cannot be proved. They pay you way too much.
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It would be the number one fucking headline on all stations in all nations.
It would be the biggest story ever.... and all of the experts in the field would be going crazy, but somehow you think they’re all in agreement world wide to keep it on the downlow.
Use your brain for its intended purpose for a change..
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No it would not.. there would be a coverup on purpose because this is serious. In fact there is clock setting going on with the timing system on your smart phones.. computers and TV set... I have been observing that to as they reset it against my clocks not on the net.

Let me tell you.. if ever there was a real asteroid that would destroy the earth they would cover that up until just before those with eyes saw it coming.

They want NO chaos or truth they cannot control. rightfully so in some cases actually as to not covering somethings.. the panic would be horrible.
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How do you suppose they kept everyone quite?
Not just the people paid to study this shit, but also all of the amateur enthusiasts who rely on the real data being correct for a myriad of applications.
You dumb cunts are so paranoid and delusional that common sense is a foreign concept to you.
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hesright
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Re: Sun Set 12 or 13 minutes Earlier than Usual - go outside and look!
Quite right. I have noticed fluctuations for a couple of weeks now, sometimes is early and sometimes is late. Anyway, my understanding was that winter solstice was December 21st, but it seems that is getting brighter instead of darker. Something is definitely going on. The Earth seems to be erratic.
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Wow so you have noticed changes in the time the sun sets but MILLIONS of amateur astronomers haven't.

norespect
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absolutely right been noticing somethings odd about sunrise and set times deviating by as much as 10-15 minutes
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Thanks for posting. How long have you been noticing this?
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before 3 weeks ago but I began the journaling 3 weeks ago. Change is coming is all I will say. I do know why.
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This is GLP.

We don't appreciate poseurs who pretend to have extremely vague 'secrets' that they must not/will not/cannot share.

Of course change is coming - change is happening all the time.

Put up or shut up.
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12/03/2017 10:53 AM
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Re: Sun Set 12 or 13 minutes Earlier than Usual - go outside and look!
For the record, where I am, sunset is at the same time as posted officially.

Dunno where the rest of you are posting from.
Probably isn't Earth.





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