Your argument, 7444-something, seemed ridiculous to me. I have no trouble seeing the sun set without a telescope. Incidentally, I can see the sunrise with my naked eyes as well. So can anyone else reading this.
Quoting: ArchimedesGirl Sure you can see the Sun. But you aren't *measuring* it.
If the Sun were an *amazing* 12 or 13 minutes off, every telescope would be 12 or 13 arc-minutes off in targeting anything in the heavens. That's a ridiculously huge margin. And no telescope, anywhere, has a mechanism that could adapt to such a change.
Since that demonstrably hasn't happened (telescopes continue to track the heavens just fine, thank you), I am thinking that you are somehow mistaken in your eyeballing it. Since we see no other consequences arising from such a massive change, it is tantamount to proof that no such change has occurred.
As an aside, please note the zillions of posts here on GLP, going back *years* and always near a solstice, about the Sun supposedly being out of place. Yet Stonehenge still lines up. Yet, you can still get an accurate latitude from sextants. Yet Eclipses and transits occur as predicted decades and centuries ago. And yet, GOTO telescopes can accurately track the heavens.
QED.
