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to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.

 
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to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
I am trying to understand what Jesus is telling us to overcome here. Becuase if we overcome it then he keeps us from thr hour of trial that befalls on the whole world.

But there is another reward. He also makes these person or persons who overcome a Pillar in the temple or city of their God and THEY SHALL NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE IT AGAIN. Another words they won't be uprooted.

But what does it mean. Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.

Crown would suggest glory. So do I hold my stocks putting faith in God that he will give me glory in this to plant me somewhere and not uproot me.

Isaiah says that I shall plant him as a peg in a sure place and in that day the peg will be removed or cut off.

But revelation is talking about becoming a pilllar not a peg. It could be the difference of renting or owning/buying becuase of obedience.

I don't think I can trade what little stock I have. I am hearing hold tight to what I have. That can mean the knowledge of obedience and faith but it could also mean some type of wealth to receive a crown. And God is saying let no man take your crown by holding firmly what you have.

I have to have faith in God on this.

You can trade. I dont have a lot to trade. So I will hold and just try to obey.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
I mean obey by obeying Jesus on what I can being cold.

Staying sober. Not sinning.

Although I cannot show the elements of love being cold with no love in me.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Who else feels most richly blessed as this man? I do, thanks God.

I asked God for strength, that I might achieve;
I was made weak, that I might learn humbly to obey.
I asked for health, that I might do greater things;
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.
I asked for riches, that I might be happy;
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.
I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men;
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.
I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life;
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.
I got nothing that I asked for, but everything I hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.
I am among all men most richly blessed.


A CONFEDERATE SOLDIER'S PRAYER
Author Unknown,
(Attributed to a battle weary C.S.A soldier near the end of the war)
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Try reading it again. It states to the angel of the church of philadelphia. The verses are referring to an angel not a church.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
I mean obey by obeying Jesus on what I can being cold.

Staying sober. Not sinning.

Although I cannot show the elements of love being cold with no love in me.
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Keep going. Keep asking. Keep the faith.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
I dont know.

I am stressed.


I dont know how to hear this.

The easy answer is to hold tight to what I have in faith of Jesus.

But he mentions crown and how do you become a pillar not to uproot?

It is faith but it isn't homelessness either.

So you tell me. I am no leader.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Try reading it again. It states to the angel of the church of philadelphia. The verses are referring to an angel not a church.
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You are about as deaf as deaf gets.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Becuase you hear the angel is the only one who needs to overcome this and not those that follow him in his church.

So the leader of the church is the issue and everyone else in the church is fine? Nope!

Churches are suppose to teach.
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12/17/2017 05:29 PM
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
That Church is often referred to as the 'rapture Church' because she is close to being flawless. The flaw is she has accepted unsound doctrine and that show up as an unwillingness to explore the core passage that support their view. (the mechanics of the pre-trib rapture is a lot of words and very little Scripture as being an good example)

The Church that is said to have left her first love would fit the RCC Clergy and their changing that God is the main man in the 10 Commandments and the 1st christian law says to 'fear God'. The punishment connected with 'great tribulation' is to be in hell for the 1,000 years as well as being in the grave so it ends up being the worse thing that happens to any people so tribulation becomes 'great tribulation'.

Re:3:8:
I know thy works:
behold,
I have set before thee an open door,
and no man can shut it:
for thou hast a little strength,
and hast kept my word,
and hast not denied my name.
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12/17/2017 05:32 PM
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
"I am trying to understand what Jesus is telling us to overcome here. Becuase if we overcome it then he keeps us from thr hour of trial that befalls on the whole world."


"But take heart! I have overcome the world."
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12/17/2017 05:35 PM
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
I dont know.

I am stressed.


I dont know how to hear this.

The easy answer is to hold tight to what I have in faith of Jesus.

But he mentions crown and how do you become a pillar not to uproot?

It is faith but it isn't homelessness either.

So you tell me. I am no leader.
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The day of judgment is the day of the return. That is the day the 7th trump sounds and on that day a Gentile has either repented his sins or he hasn't. The letters to the 7 Churches are 14 different relationship a person can have with God and it is these relationships that God used to decide if a gentile lives or dies on that day. 2/3 of all gentiles on the planet die because they have not overcome the conditions that go along with having a bad relationship with God. (for the record that is made better at the GWT event)
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Queen Elizabeth sure does suck as the head of the Angelican church.

Now be a good Christian, and speak the truth.
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12/17/2017 06:38 PM
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
Try reading it again. It states to the angel of the church of philadelphia. The verses are referring to an angel not a church.
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You are about as deaf as deaf gets.
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I was once like you OP blinded by my own ignorance. Refusing to see past the deception being fed to me by the church.

See we cannot understand the word until we start living the word.When Jesus said born again he meant leaving behind all we thought we knew and seeing the truth we have been running away from all our lives.

This world is merely a distraction, a distraction from God!

For those holding onto this world, in times of trials it will seem as though devils are tearing their lives apart. But for those who have turned their backs on the world, they will see those devils as angels freeing their souls.
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Re: to the church of Philadelphia. "Hold tight to what you have so no one takes your crown.
You won't know what you will do, until in the position ... Think about it now. Practice being without. Be homeless. We ARE homeless. Rely on His Grace. The battle is raging right now and is coming to everyone's doorsteps. Homeless, cold, hungry, alone. What do you do? Take what satan gives or ask God in Faith? Nobody knows until it happens. You seem humble enough, that's why I feel I should tell you. Put yourself there and see.





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