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26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years

 
Loup Garou

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It will be fascinating to follow the development of this child.
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This event really makes you question the state of the child's mind, soul and long term health.

It really will be interesting to see the nature and longevity of this Mad Scientist Experiment / Child?
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The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

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24 years ago there were less Monsanto chemicals on the planet, maybe.
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
It will be fascinating to follow the development of this child.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


This event really makes you question the state of the child's mind, soul and long term health.

It really will be interesting to see the nature and longevity of this Mad Scientist Experiment / Child?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Yes...

If the baby's soul was manifested during conception, then scientists would have discovered a way of soul trapping...
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
It will be fascinating to follow the development of this child.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


This event really makes you question the state of the child's mind, soul and long term health.

It really will be interesting to see the nature and longevity of this Mad Scientist Experiment / Child?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Yes...

If the baby's soul was manifested during conception, then scientists would have discovered a way of soul trapping...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


When does the soul enter a person, at conception or at birth?
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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12/20/2017 12:39 AM
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
It will be fascinating to follow the development of this child.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


You better believe the government will haha
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12/20/2017 01:14 AM
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
There was a boy who had a girl,
and they fucked around O,
she has an embryo,
she has an embryo,
she has an embryo,
and Bingo was his name O
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This gives me the chills
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Wake me up in 2041.
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Look at its eyes. It has a very old, darkish soul.
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This is fucking creepy. What would be even more creepy... if the embryo was from the 70s... bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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when I heard 24 yeras I thought the 70s. I'm 30.
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
What a waste!!! I don't understand couples who spend all this money to become fertile, when they could of adopted a kid, and already have their college half saved up for.

This isn't natural, this isn't blessed by God.
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I will tell you, as I have known more than a few people who have adopted and found themselves, sadly stuck, for a lifetime, with kids with physiological issues that expressed psychologically. Brutal. So brutal. And, also having been a substitute teacher for L.A. Unified, while getting my Master's degree, and spending time with crack babies, special ed.extremes, etc. - it is better to stick with what you know, unless you already know that you have significant genetic issues within your own family.
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
Hush little baby don't say a word, you spent 24yrs as a frozen turd.
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The day will come when women will be able to give birth to clones of themselves, and raise themselves... The horror...
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12/20/2017 02:36 AM
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baby name suggestion....

Birdseye? Swanson?
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Elsa
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WINNER OF GLP
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I second that!rofl
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Viable embryo frozen for 24 years? Proof that space travel may be possible, if an embryo can is viable after 24 years, the next step will be like the movies cryogenic sleep for space travel.

Life imitating art again.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Good point. It also may mean the people who had there bodies cryogenic persevered on death may be viable method of preservation. Although there still alot to do in reviving a brain dead person.
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
that was decades ago at a party...

it was a joke...

the ice tray was empty...

Now I owe child support.

Perfect.
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12/20/2017 03:04 AM
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question is now, will the child live to be healthy? And what are the reprecussion of being frozen in time. lol Will the baby out smart the scientists? It would be interesting to keep up with the baby as it grows. ;p
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What a waste!!! I don't understand couples who spend all this money to become fertile, when they could of adopted a kid, and already have their college half saved up for.

This isn't natural, this isn't blessed by God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71689621

I will tell you, as I have known more than a few people who have adopted and found themselves, sadly stuck, for a lifetime, with kids with physiological issues that expressed psychologically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76011736

I am a father with an adopted child and you are correct. Medical treatments should always be the first option and adoption only the last resort. Sometimes medical science can't help. Our reason for adoption was infertility that could not be helped with in vitro methods.

Many people like the person you replied to seem think that adoption is easy or inexpensive option. It's neither. It's far more expensive than in vitro fertilization and it takes years (in our case 5 years with constant running costs, training, and bureaucracy). Even then it's not certain that you get to adopt a child.

Because I have an adopted child (she's now 8, but was 5 when adopted by us) I've done a lot of research on the problems in adopted children. Typically the severe psychological problems directly related to the trauma of adoption (i.e. not inherent psychological issues which may occur due to abuse before adoption or naturally like in any child) are a result of poor handling of the child's care in the first couple of years after adoption.

It's a very delicate situation and it is imperative that the parents get well trained to recognize the signs of real trouble but at the same time don't burden the child with e.g. psychologist after perfectly normal reactions.

There is no cookie-cut solution as each child is different. Some kids fully embrace their new life from the start and don't even want to talk much about their pre-adoption life. You need to respect the child's wishes in this respect or you're hurting him.

Our child was the former. She eagerly and voluntarily preferred her new Finnish name over her original Indian name (still one of her legal names), learnt perfectly good Finnish in 7 months (quite a feat considering how difficult our language is), and refuses to talk in her native tongue which we know she still can do. She wanted to make a clear cut between her former and new lives. The only thing she misses is her former friends in India (now also adopted abroad), but fortunately we were able to contact one of the families and the kids are in contact over the net.

On the other hand, some kids need to process the transition fully and in depth with parents and/or professional help. In this case, the role of the parents is critical and the long lasting trauma results from botching this process.

The parents may not see the need for professional help, or they just don't recognize the special needs of an adopted child. For instance, they overload the kid with too many new things at the same time (too early to school, too many hobbies, too many new friends, too irregular daily schedule,...). You can't raise an adopted child in the same way as his/her peers. There is always a delay in the child's development, but they will catch up later on.

Above all the child needs is to feel SAFE and LOVED. Unexpected events are bad. The adopted children don't initially deal well with surprises, because routine is safety. Feeling safe also includes unlimited food, shelter and unconditional love even when misbehaving.

The child needs be given enough time to process his new life, so overstimulating the child is bad. Both parents need to be present, so a family where both parents are working is a very bad scenario. My wife is a housewife, but I still took months of unpaid leave to make sure our child gets to start her new life with her new father.

The parents should also be willing to swallow their pride and ask for help if in doubt. The early years as a family are critical. If you screw that up, you are going to end up with long term psychological problems. Many parents are blind to the problems, even as severe as the child hurting him/herself, and refuse to acknowledge them and ask for help. That's where the trouble often begins.
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baby name suggestion....

Birdseye? Swanson?
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Elsa
 Quoting: dodger007


Hahaha!
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Ahhh...I did a search to make sure no one had done a thread already. I missed that one.
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chickenfish
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What a waste!!! I don't understand couples who spend all this money to become fertile, when they could of adopted a kid, and already have their college half saved up for.

This isn't natural, this isn't blessed by God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71689621

I will tell you, as I have known more than a few people who have adopted and found themselves, sadly stuck, for a lifetime, with kids with physiological issues that expressed psychologically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76011736

I am a father with an adopted child and you are correct. Medical treatments should always be the first option and adoption only the last resort. Sometimes medical science can't help. Our reason for adoption was infertility that could not be helped with in vitro methods.

Many people like the person you replied to seem think that adoption is easy or inexpensive option. It's neither. It's far more expensive than in vitro fertilization and it takes years (in our case 5 years with constant running costs, training, and bureaucracy). Even then it's not certain that you get to adopt a child.

Because I have an adopted child (she's now 8, but was 5 when adopted by us) I've done a lot of research on the problems in adopted children. Typically the severe psychological problems directly related to the trauma of adoption (i.e. not inherent psychological issues which may occur due to abuse before adoption or naturally like in any child) are a result of poor handling of the child's care in the first couple of years after adoption.

It's a very delicate situation and it is imperative that the parents get well trained to recognize the signs of real trouble but at the same time don't burden the child with e.g. psychologist after perfectly normal reactions.

There is no cookie-cut solution as each child is different. Some kids fully embrace their new life from the start and don't even want to talk much about their pre-adoption life. You need to respect the child's wishes in this respect or you're hurting him.

Our child was the former. She eagerly and voluntarily preferred her new Finnish name over her original Indian name (still one of her legal names), learnt perfectly good Finnish in 7 months (quite a feat considering how difficult our language is), and refuses to talk in her native tongue which we know she still can do. She wanted to make a clear cut between her former and new lives. The only thing she misses is her former friends in India (now also adopted abroad), but fortunately we were able to contact one of the families and the kids are in contact over the net.

On the other hand, some kids need to process the transition fully and in depth with parents and/or professional help. In this case, the role of the parents is critical and the long lasting trauma results from botching this process.

The parents may not see the need for professional help, or they just don't recognize the special needs of an adopted child. For instance, they overload the kid with too many new things at the same time (too early to school, too many hobbies, too many new friends, too irregular daily schedule,...). You can't raise an adopted child in the same way as his/her peers. There is always a delay in the child's development, but they will catch up later on.

Above all the child needs is to feel SAFE and LOVED. Unexpected events are bad. The adopted children don't initially deal well with surprises, because routine is safety. Feeling safe also includes unlimited food, shelter and unconditional love even when misbehaving.

The child needs be given enough time to process his new life, so overstimulating the child is bad. Both parents need to be present, so a family where both parents are working is a very bad scenario. My wife is a housewife, but I still took months of unpaid leave to make sure our child gets to start her new life with her new father.

The parents should also be willing to swallow their pride and ask for help if in doubt. The early years as a family are critical. If you screw that up, you are going to end up with long term psychological problems. Many parents are blind to the problems, even as severe as the child hurting him/herself, and refuse to acknowledge them and ask for help. That's where the trouble often begins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73391481

Adopted at two weeks, I suffered no ill effects, excepting circumsion. I never have wanted to look up my birth parents, and felt complete in my childhood and adult life.

It will be interesting to see if this child has issues with life in the present, vs a life that would have started 24 years ago.
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So Wrong.......
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And in the next room, they're aborting a baby. Throwing the fetus into a trash can. Crazy world.
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Abortion wouldn’t exist if women were intelligent enough to use birth control. Let’s not put the cart before the horse.
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What a waste!!! I don't understand couples who spend all this money to become fertile, when they could of adopted a kid, and already have their college half saved up for.

This isn't natural, this isn't blessed by God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71689621


Newborn white babies are not available for adoption. They'd spend more money going through the adoption craziness, and come home with a black or asian baby.
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So did the baby have freezer burn or was it ziploc fresh??

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Tooooo funny!!!!!!
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Did she give birth to her self, as a frozen twin?
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Re: 26yo woman gives birth to daughter frozen as embryo for 24 years
It will be fascinating to follow the development of this child.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


This event really makes you question the state of the child's mind, soul and long term health.

It really will be interesting to see the nature and longevity of this Mad Scientist Experiment / Child?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Yes...

If the baby's soul was manifested during conception, then scientists would have discovered a way of soul trapping...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Yes, that really is the creepy part. I saw a t.v. program years ago, I think it was a scifi program where a woman had frozen an embryo like that and kept having dreams of a man freezing and suffering and calling for help. she had given up the embryo and it wasn't hers anymore as I recall and she had a lot of trouble getting it back. finally, she succeeded in having it thawed, also the death of it I assume and then had a dream of the man looking warmer, some ice still clinging to him and he was smiling and said thank you. Yikes.
ACTS 3:21
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Preserve embryos but destroy fetuses, WTF?





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