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Tiananmen Square protest death toll 'was 10,000'

 
Lily o' the Valley

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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Wumao!

Shill.

The records from that time showed that the bodies were piled up and crushed by tank which rolled over them again and again until they were mush.

The bodies were not liquified, they were crushed.
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
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How could anybody remain loyal to a governmrnt such as that?
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The people did not know. It is not taught in schools. High school students had no idea. It was blotted from history.

To this day there is a group of mothers of students who disappeared there who still do not know what happened to their sons. Each year they meet, they send a group letter to the present CCP leader asking for information. They obviously do not get front page coverage.
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Thousands, but the Chinese government called anyone who was killed .001 inches away from the sqware "unrelated."
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Thousands, but the Chinese government called anyone who was killed .001 inches away from the sqware "unrelated."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56050490


Oops, square (where are ya @sqware?)
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


This was taken from the BBC archives which were recently released.

You followed it closely? Were you there? Were you following "the news?" If so, you were lied to. If so, the news was suppressed by any media who knew.

The media still suppresses much news out of China.

All the presidents have known about the persecution of Falun Gong and the organ harvesting. The US administrations and the media have been hand in glove in covering it up.

So you can follow as closely as you want, but if it's through CNN, you are being mislead.
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Some of the shock language, to be sure, is purposely planted to then (attempt to) discredit the rest of the story.

Old propaganda trick.

Think along the lines of:

"10,000 people were killed at Tiananmen (by aliens in purple suits.)"

"The aliens in purple suits rumor is fake news."

"Ah well, then no one died."
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


rere23
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[link to www.bbc.com]

"Students linked arms but were mown down including soldiers. APCs then ran over bodies time and time again to make 'pie' and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.

"Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted."



It just maybe that compared to socialism, Islam really is a "religion of peace"
 Quoting: Taruwah


fake news

How many kids died in Waco at the hands of the government?
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


This was taken from the BBC archives which were recently released.

You followed it closely? Were you there? Were you following "the news?" If so, you were lied to. If so, the news was suppressed by any media who knew.

The media still suppresses much news out of China.

All the presidents have known about the persecution of Falun Gong and the organ harvesting. The US administrations and the media have been hand in glove in covering it up.

So you can follow as closely as you want, but if it's through CNN, you are being mislead.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Truth.

And oh yes - if someone received massive wounds but later died away from the square, they, too, didn't count.

Dragged by the military off the square and shot point blank?

Didn't count.

Beaten to death at a nearby apartment because you harbored escaping students?

Didn't count.

Facing (and therefore "attacking") a tank as it approached you? Mowed down by tank?

Didn't count.

Etc, etc, etc.
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Some of the shock language, to be sure, is purposely planted to then (attempt to) discredit the rest of the story.

Old propaganda trick.

Think along the lines of:

"10,000 people were killed at Tiananmen (by aliens in purple suits.)"

"The aliens in purple suits rumor is fake news."

"Ah well, then no one died."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56050490


Another propaganda trick is to hide the truth among a group of obviously ridiculous statements.

By discrediting this story, from the BBC Hong Kong archives, you are complicit in covering up one of the many crimes and atrocities of the Chinese Communist Party, and exonerating the role the mainstream media has played in whitewashing China's behavior since the Bush senior administration.

That is a dangerous place to be, morally.
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Did you follow it closely with the MSM ?
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


This was taken from the BBC archives which were recently released.

You followed it closely? Were you there? Were you following "the news?" If so, you were lied to. If so, the news was suppressed by any media who knew.

The media still suppresses much news out of China.

All the presidents have known about the persecution of Falun Gong and the organ harvesting. The US administrations and the media have been hand in glove in covering it up.

So you can follow as closely as you want, but if it's through CNN, you are being mislead.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Truth.

And oh yes - if someone received massive wounds but later died away from the square, they, too, didn't count.

Dragged by the military off the square and shot point blank?

Didn't count.

Beaten to death at a nearby apartment because you harbored escaping students?

Didn't count.

Facing (and therefore "attacking") a tank as it approached you? Mowed down by tank?

Didn't count.

Etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56050490


FactSamp
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


This was taken from the BBC archives which were recently released.

You followed it closely? Were you there? Were you following "the news?" If so, you were lied to. If so, the news was suppressed by any media who knew.

The media still suppresses much news out of China.

All the presidents have known about the persecution of Falun Gong and the organ harvesting. The US administrations and the media have been hand in glove in covering it up.

So you can follow as closely as you want, but if it's through CNN, you are being mislead.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


I never mentioned the news. You can put together a picture of how I might have followed through conjecture and logic by reading many of my past posts

Regardless as I said and the main point a disarmed citizenry is the impetus of a dictatorship

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[link to www.bbc.com]

"Students linked arms but were mown down including soldiers. APCs then ran over bodies time and time again to make 'pie' and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.

"Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted."



It just maybe that compared to socialism, Islam really is a "religion of peace"
 Quoting: Taruwah


so what ????? what is the point of this thread >?

10,000 or 20,000 does not matter


China still have over 1.5 billion people.

maybe just maybe if they kill over 500 million or 1 billion people, we would pay attention because that's a huge gen pool killed off . a few million people killed each year does not matter to the gen poool.
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U can't turn bodies to liquid and wash them down a drain.

Sorry folks that you believe this.

This weird propaganda makes me think there was no massacre at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077811


Hundreds died ... I seriously doubt the 10k number ... I followed this closely as it was happening in real time .. I値l leave it at that


I will say this is the result of an unarmed citizenry


Keep your arms at all costs for those countries left in the world that have unfettered access ... not many ... europe and Australia is lost at this point

Cold dead hands is not just a saying
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


This was taken from the BBC archives which were recently released.

You followed it closely? Were you there? Were you following "the news?" If so, you were lied to. If so, the news was suppressed by any media who knew.

The media still suppresses much news out of China.

All the presidents have known about the persecution of Falun Gong and the organ harvesting. The US administrations and the media have been hand in glove in covering it up.

So you can follow as closely as you want, but if it's through CNN, you are being mislead.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Truth.

And oh yes - if someone received massive wounds but later died away from the square, they, too, didn't count.

Dragged by the military off the square and shot point blank?

Didn't count.

Beaten to death at a nearby apartment because you harbored escaping students?

Didn't count.

Facing (and therefore "attacking") a tank as it approached you? Mowed down by tank?

Didn't count.

Etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56050490



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What we know now about American shenanigans in "uprisings" it's a pretty safe bet that the CIA instigated the whole thing.

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"Students linked arms but were mown down including soldiers. APCs then ran over bodies time and time again to make 'pie' and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.

"Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted."



It just maybe that compared to socialism, Islam really is a "religion of peace"
 Quoting: Taruwah


so what ????? what is the point of this thread >?

10,000 or 20,000 does not matter


China still have over 1.5 billion people.

maybe just maybe if they kill over 500 million or 1 billion people, we would pay attention because that's a huge gen pool killed off . a few million people killed each year does not matter to the gen poool.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76031023



wtfdid



Seriously? It only matters if 500,000,000 people die at the hands of a self serving and shit government?

My god, do you really think like this? Believe like this?

Every human life f'n counts.

Heh, I see you still have your own. Perhaps if your life was challenged like theirs was that day, you'd think a little differently.


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10,000 or 20,000 does not matter


China still have over 1.5 billion people.

maybe just maybe if they kill over 500 million or 1 billion people, we would pay attention because that's a huge gen pool killed off . a few million people killed each year does not matter to the gen poool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76031023


I actually believe Deng Xiaoping himself justified it this way, "well there are a billion more of us left, what of it?"

It's like Game of Thrones when Walded Frey murdered the starks and Cat threatened to kill his wife to stop it all, "go ahead...i'll just find another"

Life is cheap in this part of the world.
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How could anybody remain loyal to a governmrnt such as that?
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Easy...They Don't!! dynamite
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Sounds like the queen isn't allowing adopted Chinese babies in her house.
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The joys of communism.
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that's about what i figured, yep.
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I wonder why we were not told the truth about this in the West.


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because that's all water under the bridge.
the Country was opened up to a
large amount of Freedom and Capitalism right after that.

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I am not prone to doom panic but



this is a VERY concerning turn of the events.

The BBC (British Gov) making this statement right now at this time is extremely worrisome.

They are basically saying to the British public 'yeah we lied to you, and look the Chinese are truly terrible'


What is the purpose of this why now?



Could be a good time to stock up on adult diapers and prepare to vomit with fear
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Exactly, this is what we should focus on.
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We are in bed with a monster
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stir
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I am not prone to doom panic but



this is a VERY concerning turn of the events.

The BBC (British Gov) making this statement right now at this time is extremely worrisome.

They are basically saying to the British public 'yeah we lied to you, and look the Chinese are truly terrible'


What is the purpose of this why now?



Could be a good time to stock up on adult diapers and prepare to vomit with fear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75484908


Exactly, this is what we should focus on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460255


what we should be focusing on is
all of the astounding strides
the Chinese have made since 1990.
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[link to www.bbc.com]

"Students linked arms but were mown down including soldiers. APCs then ran over bodies time and time again to make 'pie' and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.

"Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted."



It just maybe that compared to socialism, Islam really is a "religion of peace"
 Quoting: Taruwah


so what ????? what is the point of this thread >?

10,000 or 20,000 does not matter


China still have over 1.5 billion people.

maybe just maybe if they kill over 500 million or 1 billion people, we would pay attention because that's a huge gen pool killed off . a few million people killed each year does not matter to the gen poool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76031023


The true number of deaths matters enough to China to have killed yet more people in trying to cover that figure up.

So, it matters quite a bit.
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And we westerners are responsible for this, because we buy cheap imports from China. We are feeding Chinese communist dragon, and everything looks like China will conquer the world, and they will do exactly the same thing to us when we protest.
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I wonder why we were not told the truth about this in the West.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73340869


because that's all water under the bridge.
the Country was opened up to a
large amount of Freedom and Capitalism right after that.

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


China has been steadily closing down its borders--physical and virtual--for over 20 years.

China can now censor your texts AS you're texting.

Wildly-corrupt government-siphoned capitalism, yes--freedom, no.





GLP