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Meaning & Spirit of CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

 
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This is my idea of a Christmas Card, and what Christmas is about:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

The Christmas truce refers to a series of widespread but unofficial ceasefires along the Western Front of World War I around Christmas 1914. ~ Wikipedia

The song Silent Night sung by the Germans was joined by the British. Grace caused the trenches between brothers to disappear.

Soldiers propagandized to be enemies agreed to a Christmas truce and took a break from killing each other. Fear was followed by handshakes, soccer and drinking together. THIS REALLY HAPPENED!

After this event the GOVERNMENTS had a hard time getting troops to fight imagined enemies again.

To truly feel Christmas this year I suggest listening to Silent Night and thinking of this event. A very good book (Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped) to hang out with on Kindle while the family gets to drinking this holiday:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914
Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped
[link to amzn.to]
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The best song about it
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The Spirit and love of God is amazing and casts out all fear and confusion and deception.
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True story, but they did kill each other afterwards.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
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I don't know. I don't understand why they were killing each other right up until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

When everyone knew for weeks that the war was over.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
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You follow orders or are Sent to prison or a penal battalion which will lead being killed anyway.

In spite of the horrendous slaughter of WWI, there was still some decency missing from later conflicts. Serrated blades/knives were a good way for you to get your ass kicked by your own side--and executed if caught by the enemy. Murder of prisoners and torture (a common feature of the Red Army in WW2) was almost non existent.

One sort of strange act of mercy had a profound affect on the future of Europe. Late in the war, the unit that Adolf Hitler was part of was heavily attacked. many were killed and captured. One Brit, who ended the war as a very highly decorated soldier caught the future German leader in his sights at very close range. Hitler was already wounded, but still carrying his rifle. Hitler saw the British soldier and just stood there expecting death. The Brit felt he could not shoot a wounded man (he had already killed several Germans that day) so he motioned Hitler to keep going. Hitler nodded in thanks--and limped away. Some time later, long before WW2 this story came out. The places and times corroborated the mans story. He already had more medals than anyone should have--no need to make shit up. I think it is real--and another sign of decency once shown by combatants. Some might say; no good deed goes unpunished.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


I don't know. I don't understand why they were killing each other right up until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

When everyone knew for weeks that the war was over.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The killing was slowing down by a very large degree. All along the western most parts of the front, the German Army was in retreat. The allies, trying to look bad ass, kept the pressure up. Along the German border, the Germans fought until the end.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


You follow orders or are Sent to prison or a penal battalion which will lead being killed anyway.

In spite of the horrendous slaughter of WWI, there was still some decency missing from later conflicts. Serrated blades/knives were a good way for you to get your ass kicked by your own side--and executed if caught by the enemy. Murder of prisoners and torture (a common feature of the Red Army in WW2) was almost non existent.

One sort of strange act of mercy had a profound affect on the future of Europe. Late in the war, the unit that Adolf Hitler was part of was heavily attacked. many were killed and captured. One Brit, who ended the war as a very highly decorated soldier caught the future German leader in his sights at very close range. Hitler was already wounded, but still carrying his rifle. Hitler saw the British soldier and just stood there expecting death. The Brit felt he could not shoot a wounded man (he had already killed several Germans that day) so he motioned Hitler to keep going. Hitler nodded in thanks--and limped away. Some time later, long before WW2 this story came out. The places and times corroborated the mans story. He already had more medals than anyone should have--no need to make shit up. I think it is real--and another sign of decency once shown by combatants. Some might say; no good deed goes unpunished.
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Thats a good story about Hitler, where did you find that information?

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This is my idea of a Christmas Card, and what Christmas is about:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

The Christmas truce refers to a series of widespread but unofficial ceasefires along the Western Front of World War I around Christmas 1914. ~ Wikipedia

The song Silent Night sung by the Germans was joined by the British. Grace caused the trenches between brothers to disappear.

Soldiers propagandized to be enemies agreed to a Christmas truce and took a break from killing each other. Fear was followed by handshakes, soccer and drinking together. THIS REALLY HAPPENED!

After this event the GOVERNMENTS had a hard time getting troops to fight imagined enemies again.

To truly feel Christmas this year I suggest listening to Silent Night and thinking of this event. A very good book (Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped) to hang out with on Kindle while the family gets to drinking this holiday:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914
Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped
[link to amzn.to]
 Quoting: TRUCE 11065480


God Bless You....yes it happened. The old Londkn Regiment was party to it and it was a quiet amongst those lines compared to others, however it is a true story of great men who put war aside to be together...under our lord.
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That is a blessed story.

Thank you.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


I don't know. I don't understand why they were killing each other right up until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

When everyone knew for weeks that the war was over.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Their commanding officers forced them to, sometimes by threatening to kill them.

There were some reports of superiors making their way to the front lines and confronting the troops there. Following the truce, the soldiers who were particularly resistant to start the fighting back up were threatened with punishments ranging from court-martial (charged for fraternizing w/the enemy by playing sports with them, or giving aid and comfort to the enemy by exchanging chocolate for biscuits, etc) all the way up to being shot on the spot for treason/desertion.

Even during the event itself, the higher-ups did whatever they could to prevent/stop the Christmas truces that were sporadically popping up along the front-line trenches. They specifically forbad them, fearing that it could get so widespread that the soldiers may actually realize their enemies were human beings too and ultimately refuse to continue the war. If everyone refuses to fight, there can obviously be no war, and they feared this could be the domino trigging a series of events leading to a complete cessation of hostilities against the will of those in power.

I remember one story where a commanding officer was so disgusted to see his men playing soccer with the enemy, he actually started shooting at, and killing, the players taking part in the game - both those on his side, and those on the other. As you'd expect, those soldiers who were just seconds ago laughing and playing a friendly game scrambled back to their trenches. The newly-made comrades immediately resumed hostilities, exchanging fire across the trenches; both sides thinking they had been tricked into the open by the other to be slaughtered. Literally, less than a minute passed between playing soccer together to doing their damndest to end each others life. Very sad.

That officer was a horrible, inhuman bastard.

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This is my idea of a Christmas Card, and what Christmas is about:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

The Christmas truce refers to a series of widespread but unofficial ceasefires along the Western Front of World War I around Christmas 1914. ~ Wikipedia

The song Silent Night sung by the Germans was joined by the British. Grace caused the trenches between brothers to disappear.

Soldiers propagandized to be enemies agreed to a Christmas truce and took a break from killing each other. Fear was followed by handshakes, soccer and drinking together. THIS REALLY HAPPENED!

After this event the GOVERNMENTS had a hard time getting troops to fight imagined enemies again.

To truly feel Christmas this year I suggest listening to Silent Night and thinking of this event. A very good book (Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped) to hang out with on Kindle while the family gets to drinking this holiday:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914
Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped
[link to amzn.to]
 Quoting: TRUCE 11065480


And then resumed killing eachother again after Christmas was over... oh the spirit of christMASS.

I thank God for the Holy Spirit which only he can give, and which alone makes one a Christian, and that results in true and lasting transformation.

Let us depart from dead and vain lying pagan traditions of men unto the living and Holy God of the Scriptures, in true repentance in the name of His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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It shows that no one has to follow the tptb even in the middle of BATTLE. Wake up and take another NAP. Idol1
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
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You follow orders or are Sent to prison or a penal battalion which will lead being killed anyway.

In spite of the horrendous slaughter of WWI, there was still some decency missing from later conflicts. Serrated blades/knives were a good way for you to get your ass kicked by your own side--and executed if caught by the enemy. Murder of prisoners and torture (a common feature of the Red Army in WW2) was almost non existent.

One sort of strange act of mercy had a profound affect on the future of Europe. Late in the war, the unit that Adolf Hitler was part of was heavily attacked. many were killed and captured. One Brit, who ended the war as a very highly decorated soldier caught the future German leader in his sights at very close range. Hitler was already wounded, but still carrying his rifle. Hitler saw the British soldier and just stood there expecting death. The Brit felt he could not shoot a wounded man (he had already killed several Germans that day) so he motioned Hitler to keep going. Hitler nodded in thanks--and limped away. Some time later, long before WW2 this story came out. The places and times corroborated the mans story. He already had more medals than anyone should have--no need to make shit up. I think it is real--and another sign of decency once shown by combatants. Some might say; no good deed goes unpunished.
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Thats a good story about Hitler, where did you find that information?
 Quoting: zutroyzang


Hitler wanted to subjugate the Brits, not destroy them. He thought all the Northern Europeans were on some kind of par with the germans .....the Southern Europeans and Slavs he thought little of, however.
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The Spirit and love of God is amazing and casts out all fear and confusion and deception.
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Says the person that celebrates something ungodly like x-mas
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This is my idea of a Christmas Card, and what Christmas is about:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

The Christmas truce refers to a series of widespread but unofficial ceasefires along the Western Front of World War I around Christmas 1914. ~ Wikipedia

The song Silent Night sung by the Germans was joined by the British. Grace caused the trenches between brothers to disappear.

Soldiers propagandized to be enemies agreed to a Christmas truce and took a break from killing each other. Fear was followed by handshakes, soccer and drinking together. THIS REALLY HAPPENED!

After this event the GOVERNMENTS had a hard time getting troops to fight imagined enemies again.

To truly feel Christmas this year I suggest listening to Silent Night and thinking of this event. A very good book (Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped) to hang out with on Kindle while the family gets to drinking this holiday:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914
Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped
[link to amzn.to]
 Quoting: TRUCE 11065480


X- mas has nothing to do with the christ, and everything to do with Nimrod.
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


You follow orders or are Sent to prison or a penal battalion which will lead being killed anyway.

In spite of the horrendous slaughter of WWI, there was still some decency missing from later conflicts. Serrated blades/knives were a good way for you to get your ass kicked by your own side--and executed if caught by the enemy. Murder of prisoners and torture (a common feature of the Red Army in WW2) was almost non existent.

One sort of strange act of mercy had a profound affect on the future of Europe. Late in the war, the unit that Adolf Hitler was part of was heavily attacked. many were killed and captured. One Brit, who ended the war as a very highly decorated soldier caught the future German leader in his sights at very close range. Hitler was already wounded, but still carrying his rifle. Hitler saw the British soldier and just stood there expecting death. The Brit felt he could not shoot a wounded man (he had already killed several Germans that day) so he motioned Hitler to keep going. Hitler nodded in thanks--and limped away. Some time later, long before WW2 this story came out. The places and times corroborated the mans story. He already had more medals than anyone should have--no need to make shit up. I think it is real--and another sign of decency once shown by combatants. Some might say; no good deed goes unpunished.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71693664


Thats a good story about Hitler, where did you find that information?
 Quoting: zutroyzang


I had long ago forgotten about that event, but was reminded of it recently--saw some mention about it in some history forum. I see if I can find more detail. The British soldier involved was well known.
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Not so strange that both sides had all the ammo they needed after said cease-fire.
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I wouldn't doubt that that act of mercy was later
responsible for Hitler's reluctance to destroy the
Brits at Dunkirk.

Had he done that to the British army
he would have almost certainly won the war.
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This is my idea of a Christmas Card, and what Christmas is about:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914

The Christmas truce refers to a series of widespread but unofficial ceasefires along the Western Front of World War I around Christmas 1914. ~ Wikipedia

The song Silent Night sung by the Germans was joined by the British. Grace caused the trenches between brothers to disappear.

Soldiers propagandized to be enemies agreed to a Christmas truce and took a break from killing each other. Fear was followed by handshakes, soccer and drinking together. THIS REALLY HAPPENED!

After this event the GOVERNMENTS had a hard time getting troops to fight imagined enemies again.

To truly feel Christmas this year I suggest listening to Silent Night and thinking of this event. A very good book (Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped) to hang out with on Kindle while the family gets to drinking this holiday:

CHRISTMAS TRUCE OF 1914
Truce: The Day the Soldiers Stopped
[link to amzn.to]
 Quoting: TRUCE 11065480


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Some say Hitler was lying about the story. People raises on Hollywood and BBC history will likely be less inclined to believe it. I am not certain one way or another, but will say it is entirely possible.

Back to the OP. The Christmas truce was real. Had high levels had supported it, the dumbest war ever fought would have been cut short. Instead, they forced its prosecution.

[link to www.history.com]
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


I don't know. I don't understand why they were killing each other right up until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.

When everyone knew for weeks that the war was over.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


The killing was slowing down by a very large degree. All along the western most parts of the front, the German Army was in retreat. The allies, trying to look bad ass, kept the pressure up. Along the German border, the Germans fought until the end.
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missed the point entirely. Everyone, everyone knew the war was over for weeks. If not months.

There is a book that describes the killing going on in the last 24 hours up to the very second the armistice was signed.

I read most of it and couldn't finish it because it filled me with so much revulsion. Entirely pointless waste of life. Millions had already died or were maimed or were screwed up for life. The orders came from HQ staff officers looking for medals.
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Had high levels had supported it, the dumbest war ever fought would have been cut short.
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This is a good summation of why there were any World Wars to begin with. 8:00 is when the WWI story begins.


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Christmas in the Trenches-- a beautiful anti-war song. How long will mankind continue to be deceived by endless war that makes bankers endlessly rich?

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All Wars are Bankster Wars.

Those soldiers should have all turned their weapons on the Officers, then hunted down the Financiers.
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All Wars are Bankster Wars.

Those soldiers should have all turned their weapons on the Officers, then hunted down the Financiers.
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The civilian population also needs to come out with pitchforks aimed at their upscale haunts, as papa Bush suggested..
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There is a movie about this...I may even have bought it
and reason why was to explain to my children how war
is forced by the elites and military hierarchy...
but sometimes a higher power can intervene and show
a different path. And show what good can come out of
us if we just listen inside and think.

Also a point was how much trouble the soldiers and field
officers got into from that unofficial truce...The rulers
cant have the peasants and grunts thinking for themselves
(or listening to anything else)
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and 5 * for bringing this up on GLP
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I still don't understand how if they stop fighting & start singing & exchanging cigarettes, booze & candy, how the hell can they go back to shooting at each other afterward.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


where do you think they got the $$$ for the cigs, booze and candy. they had to clock in and get paid.





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