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911 debunkers, dumber than a fifth grader!

 
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Are 911 Truth Deniers Dumber
Than A 5th Grader?
By Douglas Herman
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The most subversive show on television is on the Fox TV network. Maybe you've seen it. Hosted by a guy named Jeff Foxworthy, the show is called "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?"

Hopefully, the show is broadcast to every nation of the world, including China, the Middle East and the English-speaking nations of the former British empire. Why? To show the rest of the world what they already suspect: that most Americans are a bunch of greedy nitwits, numbskulls and knuckleheads.

Truly, most Americans are Not smarter than a fifth grader. Indeed, judging from the shows I've seen, quite a few American adults are dumber than a FIRST grader. The adults--and I use that word loosely--who participate on the show are college graduates with good jobs. Some of them graduated with honors--whatever that means in collegiate circles. Uniformly, they perform badly. If ignorance is bliss then most of the adults on the show are positively delirious. They win a few thousand dollars, sometimes a quarter million, but for the most part, look like greedy imbeciles.

They ALL remind me of 911 truth deniers.

First question: What is jet fuel? Don't know? Yes, you are dumber than a fifth grader. Could a kerosene fire (basically jet fuel) melt steel beams? No, but sometimes it does if the government says it can and the Twin Towers are involved. Sorry, wrong answer. You are dumber than any first grader possessing a basic understanding of a barbecue grill.

I'm forever delighted by the faces of the wise children everywhere. They remind me of "Truthers," those citizens concerned with nothing so much as unraveling a great crime against America, convinced we can persuade even the dumbest Americans--and God knows there are millions of them---that steel building do not just fall down at the speed of gravity, no matter how many morons at MIT say they can.

Okay: How many sides to a trapezoid? Every Truther, and fifth grader on the show that I happened to watch, knew the answer to that. Four, as in the shape of the WTC-7 foundation.

Most 911 debunkers love to quote the number of top US scientists, engineers and architects who deny 911 was an inside job. Luckily, we Truthers can demonstrate that many of these top experts are just plain dumb. How? We need only point to a show like "Smarter Than A 5th Grader," a show that readily indicates how dumb so-called educated American people can be. Even ones with advanced degrees and Cum Laude after their names.

Indeed, one of the World's Most Famous Smart Persons, a professor at MIT named Chomsky, said the perplexing anomalies of 911 didn't really matter to him. Huh? That would be like asking a group of fifth graders how did the Titanic sink? And then remarking to them to ignore the iceberg altogether and focus instead on the weight and volume of the water that filled the ship. All while manipulating computer models to show that a few open portholes caused the Titanic to sink.

Because that was EXACTLY what the Kean Commission did to WTC-7. They ignored the collapse of a 600 foot World Trade Center building altogether. And that was EXACTLY what NIST has done also, for the past five years. They have ignored the obvious, ignoring the iceberg, focusing on the floodwater.

Are Americans dumber than 5th graders? Yes, especially most of the top scientists working for the US government. For example, a videotape was shown---but not identified---to a top Dutch demolition expert. The videotape was of a 47 story government building collapsing in 6.5 seconds. The Dutch expert---unlike many of the top US experts---said unequivocally that the building had been blown down. A controlled demolition. Indeed, you could show that same videotape to those 5th graders and get the same answer.

The chief difference? Neither the Dutch expert nor the 5th graders depend on the US government to pay their salaries, or fund their think tanks or universities. Thus they can answer honestly and without fear of retribution.

Magna Cum Laude in Cowardice? Simply look around.

Next Question: Who met with the (alleged but never proven) head hijacker's bagman, met him for breakfast on 9-11? If you answered a top Al Qaeda member, you would be WRONG. But if you answered several top US intelligence figures met with the man who provided Mohammed Atta with $100,000 you would be right.

Another question. Why couldn't NORAD get even one plane aloft to encounter even one hijacked jet? Was it because our highly trained air force pilots are incompetent and dumber than a 5th grader? How do you feel about that? That the rest of the world thinks we are dumber than a newborn babe for believing that the top air defense in the world--NORAD--couldn't even get ONE fighter jet aloft in ninety minutes, 90 MINUTES?

We really are a dumb race of people if we believe 9-11 was a case of incompetence. Dumber still if we accept the excuses from our government officials and haven't demanded the indictment of even ONE person that allowed close to 3,000 citizens be murdered.

Debunkers would have you believe the official lie. And it is a masterful lie. They want to keep you dumb; that is their whole purpose. To keep you dumb. To keep you from asking too many questions. But mostly to keep you from demanding answers, and then demanding indictments and convictions.

But debunkers are relatively few, and mostly shrewd, manipulative liars.

911 truth deniers, on the other hand---the millions of ordinary folks who adhere to the official story--would have us simply give the US government the benefit of the doubt. When you ask them why, when you point to the string of lies before and after 911, when you point to the murderous government policies post- 911, they stare dumbly, like contestants on that TV game show.

On that TV show, however, the 5th graders can sometimes help those dumb adults. But only IF the adults want to be helped. Five years after 911, we Truthers are the fresh-faced students, trying to awaken our compatriots to the correct answers. And in this case, they have a whole lot more to win or lose than a few thousand dollars.

Footnote: I would like once again to thank my compatriots at 911blogger.com who provided the illustration. As you can see, it doesn't take a rocket scientists to understand 911. Indeed, most American rocket scientists are probably too dumb.

Simply put: Can an object fall through mass 5 times greater than itself, falling nearly as fast as it would fall through empty air, when the only force available is gravity? Sure it can, as long as the object is falling through a heavily-insured white elephant housing sensitive government offices.

USAF veteran Douglas Herman writes for Rense regularly and clearly understood the scam of the NORAD standdown within a few months after 911. He wrote the recent Rense feature, Why No Norad On 911?
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Paging all dumbshit debunkers! Dumbcan Kuntz? Col. West? (er, I mean Govt. Shill FKA HiRisque), Snakeshit Airlines? Chemical Sniffer? Bueller? Bueller?!
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Those dumb rat bastards are researching for a rebuttal, they'll be here soon.........
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
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and chemtrail pilot.
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But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.
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lmao
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
HiRisque
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and chemtrail pilot.
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Wrong, asshole.

You haven't debunked Jack-Shit (except in your own deluded mind, of course).

The number of 911-Truth believers rises, every fucking day, you pathetic, loser fucktard.

Fuck off and die.

stfu
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
HiRisque
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Wrong, asshole.

You haven't debunked Jack-Shit (except in your own deluded mind, of course).

The number of 911-Truth believers rises, every fucking day, you pathetic, loser fucktard.

Fuck off and die.

stfu
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Good rebuttal, not! Your language shows your intelligence
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
HiRisque
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and chemtrail pilot.


Wrong, asshole.

You haven't debunked Jack-Shit (except in your own deluded mind, of course).

The number of 911-Truth believers rises, every fucking day, you pathetic, loser fucktard.

Fuck off and die.

stfu

Good rebuttal, not! Your language shows your intelligence
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Yes, it does, you worthless, lying asshole.

I am far more intelligent than you.

Bring it on.
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The number of 911-Truth believers rises, every fucking day, you pathetic, loser fucktard.

Fuck off and die.

stfu
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Must be at least 30 or 40 at this forum alone!

You seem to have some anger management issues. Maybe a chemical imbalance?
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OP:

Thanks for the article.

Sadly, the nation is filled with many incurious people who refuse to move out of their assigned slots. They are the ones with the immature critical thinking skills (if they have any at all). They don't ask questions. They don't demand answers. They do as they are told, and believe what they are told by TPTB.

And then there are the debunkers...a caste of traitors who are willing to sell out the nation for a buck. May God forgive them, because I won't.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


Silence is consent.
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Are 911 Truth Deniers Dumber
Than A 5th Grader?
By Douglas Herman
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Debunkers would have you believe the official lie. And it is a masterful lie. They want to keep you dumb; that is their whole purpose. To keep you dumb. To keep you from asking too many questions. But mostly to keep you from demanding answers, and then demanding indictments and convictions.

But debunkers are relatively few, and mostly shrewd, manipulative liars.
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Indeed.
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Yes, it does, you worthless, lying asshole.

I am far more intelligent than you.

Bring it on.
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Intelligent? People that feel a need to boast of their intelligence or enlightenment usually aren't.

And as far as your namecalling skills go, only fair, not very imaginative.
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Hey "Col. West", surprised you still got the guts to show your lying two faces around here.
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
HiRisque
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and chemtrail pilot.
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You are either a traitor or a fool, and I don't believe you to be a fool. Your reward is likely to be a one-way ticket to the camps, as if you will so readily betray your own people, how long can your masters trust you.
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There is nothing to rebut in the OP's post.

No self proclaimed debunker will touch it.

They will merely spar aimlessly with the supporters of the post. Nothing more.

Let us stop focusing on the negative purpose of the debunkers and consider the importance of the OP's post instead.

The implications and the the clear message it holds may be the necessary impetus for clearing the fog from the eyes of many people.

Let's repost this very important message on as many sites and forums as possible.

I hope it is not too much to ask for a moderator to pin one more important post today.
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Find a 5th grader who thinks the US govt blew up the WTC or doesnt think that all you are guilty of treason and should be locked up.

Come to think of it, find anyone with a college education who agrees with your sorry dumb asses.

Lets see, Rosie, Barbara, Charlie, Tim Robbins,,,, not a one with more than a high school GED.

laugh
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Find a 5th grader who thinks the US govt blew up the WTC or doesnt think that all you are guilty of treason and should be locked up.

Come to think of it, find anyone with a college education who agrees with your sorry dumb asses.

Lets see, Rosie, Barbara, Charlie, Tim Robbins,,,, not a one with more than a high school GED.

laugh
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There is nothing to rebut in the OP's post.

No self proclaimed debunker will touch it.

They will merely spar aimlessly with the supporters of the post. Nothing more.

Let us stop focusing on the negative purpose of the debunkers and consider the importance of the OP's post instead.

The implications and the the clear message it holds may be the necessary impetus for clearing the fog from the eyes of many people.

Let's repost this very important message on as many sites and forums as possible.

I hope it is not too much to ask for a moderator to pin one more important post today.
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Utter BS

I have in the past debunked every point the OP mistakenly makes. With real science and a knowledge of the performance of building materials.

The OP however thinks that by repeating the lies constantly will make them come true. It isn't going to happen.

If they pin this crap it will be another GLP travesty, another of multitudes.

The real truth is that you have an agenda agaisnt the current administratios even before the tragedy. Anyone with half a brain can see through your false allegations, psuedo-science and overall stupidity.

I don't really have time for this but I will debunk one of the cornerstones of your CT.

Steel does not have to melt nor come anywhere near that temperature in order to lose enough design strength to collapse under a load. That alone is one of the stupidest things you guys say. Anyone with any real knowledge of the real properties of steel would be able to tell you this. What do you think is the real reason the MSM won't touch your CT's. They know damn well none of your allegations are supportable.
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So why was there melted steel at ground zero?
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The OP however thinks that by repeating the lies constantly will make them come true. It isn't going to happen.
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Like the lies and phony screen personas you constantly promulgate, "Col. West?"
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So why was there melted steel at ground zero?
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I've never seen any pictures. Just heresay from questionable sources.
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The OP however thinks that by repeating the lies constantly will make them come true. It isn't going to happen.

Like the lies and phony screen personas you constantly promulgate, "Col. West?"
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The thread record shows I admitted to a hoax less than five hours after I started the thread.

One of the problems with you people is that you are a humorless bunch of, well I don't like to call names.

Also if you read what's at the bottom of this web sites home page you will read:

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There are times when all the site has is the old tired crap over and over and over, it needed some fun.

But enough of this, I have to leave now to monitor an important event. But you can count on one thing. I will be back one way or another.
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artist do you have the balls to call into the alex jones show on monday and debate him ?
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Could a kerosene fire (basically jet fuel) melt steel beams? No, but sometimes it does if the government says it can and the Twin Towers are involved. Sorry, wrong answer. You are dumber than any first grader possessing a basic understanding of a barbecue grill.
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I'm not a debunker, just undecided, but won't steel beams become weakened when heated without approaching melting point ?

I guess I may be uninformed, but surely kerosene is not the same grade as aviation jet fuel.

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So why was there melted steel at ground zero?


I've never seen any pictures. Just heresay from questionable sources.
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Shows how much research you've actually done.

Here, allow me to enlighten your sub fifth-grade debunker brain with a link to 9/11 photos and the following caption:

[link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]

"In perfect conditions the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons such as jet fuel burning in air is 1520° F (825° C). When the World Trade Center collapsed the deeply buried fires would have been deprived of oxygen and their temperatures would have significantly decreased.

Why was the temperature at the core of "the pile" nearly 500° F hotter than the maximum burning temperature of jet fuel a full seven days after the collapses? There were no infernos in either of the twin towers before they collapsed, so what caused the hot spots deep in their wreckage?"


Also if you read what's at the bottom of this web sites home page you will read:

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We're well aware of your internet role-playing and two-faced avatar, but you've destroyed every bit of credibility you previously had.
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We have debunked everyone of your ignorant assertions numerous times on these forums. Your ignorance on these matters goes beyond the pale. Apparently you seem to think that if you repeat lies, falsehoods, bad science and loony-toon theories enough times they will become true.

Over time I am sure you will pick up a few misguided, thick, and gullible followers of your movement. But anyone who has looked at the evidence objectively will come to the conclusion that events happened just as they were reported in the MSM.

Sincerly,
HiRisque
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and chemtrail pilot.
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pump2<----9/11 Dancing Israelis

chorus<---9/11 Party for Zionist Neocons

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They intercepted NO planes.
Inside job.
CASE CLOSED.
MORON!





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