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John F. Kennedy’s Statement “Ich Bin Ein Berliner” was Not Interpreted as “I am a Jelly-Filled Doughnut”

 
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John F. Kennedy’s Statement “Ich Bin Ein Berliner” was Not Interpreted as “I am a Jelly-Filled Doughnut”
Myth: John F. Kennedy blundered in one of his most famous speeches, saying in German “I am a jelly-filled doughnut” instead of what he meant (in the figurative sense) “I am a person from Berlin”.

As German professor Reinhold Aman stated about this:

“Ich bin ein Berliner means ‘I am a Berliner’ or ‘a male person/native of Berlin’ and absolutely nothing else! … No intelligent native speaker of German tittered in Berlin when J.F.K. spoke, just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language, would titter if someone said, ‘Ich bin ein Wiener’, or Hamburger or Frankfurter.”

Yet another linguist, Jürgen Eichhoff, in his paper covering the misconception stated, “‘Ich bin ein Berliner’ is not only correct, but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say.”

The fact that this is a myth shouldn’t be a surprise to many because if “Ich bin ein Berliner” had been interpreted, “I am a jelly-filled doughnut”, it likely would have been major comedic news at the time. The reality was, though, that the first known record of anyone interpreting it as such wasn’t until 1983, in the novel Berlin Game, 20 years after the speech was made:
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'Bonus Facts': ... 'The United States House Select Committee on Assassinations, which was formed to investigate the assassinations of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr., as well as the shooting of Alabama Governor George Wallace, concluded that the JFK assassination was probably a conspiracy, though what organization formed and executed the conspiracy was not determined.'

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yep, fake news has been around a really long time
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But he WAS a Jelly-Filled Doughnut.
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I remember eating Berliners when I was in Germany, delicious.
I think the point was he should have more correctly said "i c h bin Berliner', however some critic would probably have said Kennedy was saying he was a native of Berlin and that also would have been laughed at as incorrect. Just goes to show the biasednews media is always nitpicking something to criticize, rather than portraying the positive side.
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I remember eating Berliners when I was in Germany, delicious.
I think the point was he should have more correctly said "i c h bin Berliner', however some critic would probably have said Kennedy was saying he was a native of Berlin and that also would have been laughed at as incorrect. Just goes to show the biasednews media is always nitpicking something to criticize, rather than portraying the positive side.
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Uh, he should have correctly said what?

The point of the OP is that no one even mentioned this when it happened... it was fake news created decades after the fact.
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I remember eating Berliners when I was in Germany, delicious.
I think the point was he should have more correctly said "i c h bin Berliner', however some critic would probably have said Kennedy was saying he was a native of Berlin and that also would have been laughed at as incorrect. Just goes to show the biasednews media is always nitpicking something to criticize, rather than portraying the positive side.
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Uh, he should have correctly said what?

The point of the OP is that no one even mentioned this when it happened... it was fake news created decades after the fact.
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LOL, what an idiotic idea.. JFK spoke LIVE to the people of Berlin and that was witnessed by "real people".. ich bin auch ein Berliner und das "fake news" zu nennen ist geistig gestört oder einfach nur sau dumm.
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just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language, would titter if someone said, ‘Ich bin ein Wiener’, or Hamburger or Frankfurter.”
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why would they not laugh at that? that would be top rated comedy in USA if somebody went around calling themselfs a weiner! why do Germans not think it's funny???

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just as no native speaker of German, or one who does know this language, would titter if someone said, ‘Ich bin ein Wiener’, or Hamburger or Frankfurter.”
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why would they not laugh at that? that would be top rated comedy in USA if somebody went around calling themselfs a weiner! why do Germans not think it's funny???

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germans have zero sense of humour .
the last time anyone laughed in germany was when a berliner fell down a well in 1937 . it was more like a titter though .
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it is entirely possible that for a country to possess a sense of humour , it must have won at least one war .





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