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Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?

 
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An important thing to note is a good theory will predict things (like how Special Relativity predicted gravity waves for example), evolution is no different. We've been able to search for fossils such as Tiktaalik in places they should be based on what we know about evolution.
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The Bible doesn't count as proof as it's not testable, anyone could have wrote it or modified it somewhere down the line. Testable, physical evidence is required..
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Right, so much for imaginary missing links.
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An important thing to note is a good theory will predict things (like how Special Relativity predicted gravity waves for example), evolution is no different. We've been able to search for fossils such as Tiktaalik in places they should be based on what we know about evolution.
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Uhhhh...... was there no gravity holding the universe in balance for billions of years before man discovered/predicted it?
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You must place fossils together with all the other prices of evidence. Birds and Crocodiles for example are the perfect example of fossils not being proof alone, but fitting perfectly into place with the genetic studies.
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Gravitational Waves =/= Gravity. Gravitational Waves are basically waves of gravity that warp space-time and are caused by cataclysmic events (black hole collisions being the main source.)
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Archosaurs alone are proof of evolution, let alone the early fish record, D.N.A, lab and field experiments, embryos, and bones.
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DNA mathematically/chemically dictates every species reproduces according to it's kind, to maintain their specific role in maintaining the equilibrium of the biosphere.
"And God went on to say: “Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind.” And it came to be so. 25 And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good.
26 And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27 And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” Ge1:28

Science is simple, easily observed, measured, documented, stupid contradictory theories are impossible to prove, they only send disoriented minds to chasing the winds of their beloved illusions.
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"kinds" are not static. as long as there are mutations everything can change.
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You must place fossils together with all the other prices of evidence. Birds and Crocodiles for example are the perfect example of fossils not being proof alone, but fitting perfectly into place with the genetic studies.
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Yeah..... I can envision that.
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It's beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point that Crocodiles and Birds are very closely related, both being Archosaurs and both sharing a close common ancestor.
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It's beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point that Crocodiles and Birds are very closely related, both being Archosaurs and both sharing a close common ancestor.
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Yeah so true dat, I learned that from researching the famous Fred Flinstone archives.

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Look at their genes, Crocodiles still have disabled genes for feathers, and birds have disabled genes for teeth and crocodile bone structure that was still present in the tails of raptors.
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Look at their genes, Crocodiles still have disabled genes for feathers, and birds have disabled genes for teeth and crocodile bone structure that was still present in the tails of raptors.
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They're almost identical.
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The Bible doesn't count as proof as it's not testable, anyone could have wrote it or modified it somewhere down the line. Testable, physical evidence is required..
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Right, so much for imaginary missing links.
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It's hilarious that you continue to rail about "missing links" when your religious ideas can't conjure a SINGLE LINK, much less even two links with something in between.

You're batting with a 'zero average,' but that doesn't phase you, does it? You think you're valiantly working for some ethereal, unknowable, fantastical, mythological, almighty being that craves to be worshipped by dullards that resist reality and adhere to bronze age nonsense.

It's the pinnacle of abject and willful ignorance to deny contemporary science for the sake of stupid bronze age stories. Do you believe them because the Watchtower Society tells you they're true, and when they intimidate you by telling you that you will be denied everlasting life if you deny those 'stupid stories?'

The faucet they got you drinking from has turned you into a mindless automaton that parrots cult dogma while being told that you're 'witnessing the truth,' you people couldn't be further from the truth, and as matter of fact YOU RUN FROM THE TRUTH!

You're not in service to some almighty being called Mr. Jehovah, you're in service to a cult run by a small cadre of aging, delusional, and self righteous autocrats.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
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Birds might not look like Crocodiles, but go through their D.N.A (especially disabled genes like the disabled feathers I told you about) and you'll find the great similarities between the two. The fossil record matches up EXACTLY with what the D.N.A says happened.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
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I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74482595

I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
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a mission of men


good luck with that
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Plus like I've said before, we've OBSERVED evolution firsthand (yeast becoming a new, multi-cell organism)
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74482595

I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
 Quoting: DGN


a mission of men


good luck with that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74482595


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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
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I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
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Yes... it's called a 'persecution complex,' it's one of the basic tenets of the Jehovah Witness cult. They teach you that if you're not being rejected, that you're not teaching the 'truth' hard enough.

DGN haunts the GLP forum daily to keep his 'persecution complex' in good repair, no decent JW can function without it.

The power of cult religion is truly mind boggling.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
post your youtube JW vids

copy/paste your group of mens teachings

copy/paste YOUR group of MENS translation of the bible


lol



wont change whats coming

you and every other religion is wrong

"Babylon the Great"

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ALL religion

even yours
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i feel bad for you

just as lost as everyone else


no different


talking to this guy is like talking to a wall


you can show a link to direct evidence
or a direct scripture in the bible

and he sticks his fingers in his ears


he cant even think for himself

only what is fed to him


:(


i pity.
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Problem with religion is that it's not really testable, your relying on a book created thousands of years ago in the Middle East that any group of people could have made, and then trying to compare it with modern science. The Catholic Church has, for example, already accepted evolution and the Big Bang over a biblical literalist PoV.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74482595

I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
 Quoting: DGN


Yes... it's called a 'persecution complex,' it's one of the basic tenets of the Jehovah Witness cult. They teach you that if you're not being rejected, that you're not teaching the 'truth' hard enough.

DGN haunts the GLP forum daily to keep his 'persecution complex' in good repair, no decent JW can function without it.

The power of cult religion is truly mind boggling.
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Yes, very good explanation
By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another." Pr27:17
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i feel bad for you

just as lost as everyone else


no different


talking to this guy is like talking to a wall


you can show a link to direct evidence
or a direct scripture in the bible

and he sticks his fingers in his ears


he cant even think for himself

only what is fed to him


:(


i pity.
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And the worst of it is that he's actually proud of that! He thinks it gets him 'extra points' from Professor Jehovah.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
Problem with religion is that it's not really testable, your relying on a book created thousands of years ago in the Middle East that any group of people could have made, and then trying to compare it with modern science. The Catholic Church has, for example, already accepted evolution and the Big Bang over a biblical literalist PoV.
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Yep, and predictably so, here's your back up;

Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." Thes2
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[link to silentlambs.org]
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no one cares about idiotic day after day same old stupid posts
about GOD vs EVOLUTION
representing a GROUP OF MEN
who have done and protected others who have done HORRENDOUS things



yet day after day

same old crap


i bet you have NOT even READ the KING JAMES version of the BIBLE.



yet here you are

spouting what other MEN have fed you.


nobody wants you here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74482595

I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
 Quoting: DGN


Yes... it's called a 'persecution complex,' it's one of the basic tenets of the Jehovah Witness cult. They teach you that if you're not being rejected, that you're not teaching the 'truth' hard enough.

DGN haunts the GLP forum daily to keep his 'persecution complex' in good repair, no decent JW can function without it.

The power of cult religion is truly mind boggling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25470243

Yes, very good explanation
By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another." Pr27:17
 Quoting: DGN


A great example of how primitive and ignorant the bible is. Plain iron is never sharpened by plain iron, only beaten. So I guess you could say that one man can 'beat' another man's face... yeah, and also add that other scripture about 'turning the other cheek.' -- Ahh yes, the wisdom of the bible!
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I appreciate the rejection, fuels the mission.
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Yes... it's called a 'persecution complex,' it's one of the basic tenets of the Jehovah Witness cult. They teach you that if you're not being rejected, that you're not teaching the 'truth' hard enough.

DGN haunts the GLP forum daily to keep his 'persecution complex' in good repair, no decent JW can function without it.

The power of cult religion is truly mind boggling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25470243

Yes, very good explanation
By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another." Pr27:17
 Quoting: DGN


A great example of how primitive and ignorant the bible is. Plain iron is never sharpened by plain iron, only beaten. So I guess you could say that one man can 'beat' another man's face... yeah, and also add that other scripture about 'turning the other cheek.' -- Ahh yes, the wisdom of the bible!
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Great introduction, here's your backup;
"Who is wise and understanding among YOU? Let him show out of his fine conduct his works with a mildness that belongs to wisdom. 14 But if YOU have bitter jealousy and contentiousness in YOUR hearts, do not be bragging and lying against the truth. 15 This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is [the] earthly, animal, demonic. 16 For where jealousy and contentiousness are, there disorder and every vile thing are.
17 But the wisdom from above is first of all chaste, then peaceable, reasonable, ready to obey, full of mercy and good fruits, not making partial distinctions, not hypocritical. 18 Moreover, the fruit of righteousness has its seed sown under peaceful conditions for those who are making peace.
4 From what source are there wars and from what source are there fights among YOU? Are they not from this source, namely, from YOUR cravings for sensual pleasure that carry on a conflict in YOUR members? 2 YOU desire, and yet YOU do not have. YOU go on murdering and coveting, and yet YOU are not able to obtain. YOU go on fighting and waging war. YOU do not have because of YOUR not asking. 3 YOU do ask, and yet YOU do not receive, because YOU are asking for a wrong purpose, that YOU may expend [it] upon YOUR cravings for sensual pleasure.
.” Ja3:13
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Problem with religion is that it's not really testable, your relying on a book created thousands of years ago in the Middle East that any group of people could have made, and then trying to compare it with modern science. The Catholic Church has, for example, already accepted evolution and the Big Bang over a biblical literalist PoV.
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Yep, and predictably so, here's your back up;

Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." Thes2
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Obviously, you've never actually read those scriptures for yourself, because if you had, you would notice that there is not a shred of denial of evolution, the big bang, and science in general in them. You just conveniently conjure an interpretation that fits the argument you're trying to make.

That's the problem with JWs, they quote scriptures that frequently contradict what they want to believe.
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copy/paste more tainted scriptures


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