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Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?

 
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A theory in SCIENCE is by definition; "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."

Plus, there have been many human species before us found. At LEAST 50. H.Erectus, Neanderthals, H. tsaichangensis, H.Halibis, H.Naledi, the list goes on.
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So what is it called when theory has no evidence, but it is still pushed to the masses
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Great question, here's your answer;
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4
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Do not look at Sauropods. Look at small raptors like Velicoraptor, which was only about the size of a chicken. Side by side their legs and you'll see the similarities.
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DUDE it doesn't make sense
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Ohhhh hey sure it does. look at the legs of hippos, rhinos, and elephants. Now tell me that doesn't prove they turned into each other, which explains why only one of them isn't extinct.
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Hippos, Rhinos, and Elephants are very closely related to each other, they are all part of the same order. Just like canines are in the same order as cats and hyenas, or apes in the same as monkeys and lemurs.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
Of course they'd have similar structures. They are basically cousins evolutionary wise.
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"Nobody seeing a creature evolved." Fruit flies speciating to the point where they can no longer breed together? Dog breeds? And the Bible can't be used as evidence in a debate about evolution. People 2000+ years ago had no idea of it's existence.
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Every part of our way of society is based of bible text. Every thing from our court system to the way our government is set up. Even science goes to the bible for reference.
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Of course they'd have similar structures. They are basically cousins evolutionary wise.
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Yeah I can see that, 20,000 lbs....12 oz.
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Imfao. So chicken sized velicoraptors were 10,000 pounds? Ok.
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Most of our society and the way it works is based off Greece, not the Bible.
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Imfao. So chicken sized velicoraptors were 10,000 pounds? Ok.
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Ohhh yeah, didn't you see the movie? Where the one foot high Velochickens chased the kids through the corn field?

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Do not look at Sauropods. Look at small raptors like Velicoraptor, which was only about the size of a chicken. Side by side their legs and you'll see the similarities.
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DUDE it doesn't make sense
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Ohhhh hey sure it does. look at the legs of hippos, rhinos, and elephants. Now tell me that doesn't prove they turned into each other, which explains why only one of them isn't extinct.
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So you're say by looking at the structure of these creatures. You can tell they are descending of other genetically.
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For the most part yes. You need the fossil record and sometimes D.N.A to back it up for 100% confirmation, but D.N.A, the fossil record, and bone structures are like pieces of a puzzle that must be fit together to see the bigger picture.
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Hippos, Rhinos, and Elephants are very closely related to each other, they are all part of the same order. Just like canines are in the same order as cats and hyenas, or apes in the same as monkeys and lemurs.
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So why are all still around. Don't mean to be a dick, but that sounds like conjecture.
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They occupy different niches. The common ancestor that they share has been long dead, but each has successfully filled a niche. There are plenty of other closely related animals that are dead.
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For the most part yes. You need the fossil record and sometimes D.N.A to back it up for 100% confirmation, but D.N.A, the fossil record, and bone structures are like pieces of a puzzle that must be fit together to see the bigger picture.
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100% confirmation,
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
How so? Evolution has been backed up by every single field of biology thus far.
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New microbe strains every year should be enough confirmation alone.
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"Nobody seeing a creature evolved." Fruit flies speciating to the point where they can no longer breed together? Dog breeds? And the Bible can't be used as evidence in a debate about evolution. People 2000+ years ago had no idea of it's existence.
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That's not evolution. That dog is still a dog and that fly is still a fly. What you mentioned sounds more like adaptation to certain conditions.
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How so? Evolution has been backed up by every single field of biology thus far.
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Not a single one, zero missing fossil links, zero.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
Evolution is just adaptation over an extremely long period of time. It's like 1+1 vs 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1.
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Fossils already show transitions (Tiktaalik) and the fossil record alone isn't the only thing one would use to prove evolution. D.N.A is an even stronger proof in my opinion.
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They occupy different niches. The common ancestor that they share has been long dead, but each has successfully filled a niche. There are plenty of other closely related animals that are dead.
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Can you name the ancestor,can you find any bones of it.
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New microbe strains every year should be enough confirmation alone.
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Microbes adapting always make more microbes, zero fossil remains of any creature EVER turning into a different one.
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Adaptation is just evolution at a small scale. Plus, like I said before, single-cell yeast have become multi-celluar in a lab when separated from other microbes.
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How so? Evolution has been backed up by every single field of biology thus far.
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There are more scientists that say otherwise. And they ostracized by the mainstream science community. Remember how Tyson became recognized. AT first he was ostracized by scientists for say Pluto wasn't a planet
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Which ancestor of them do you want? There are hundreds of different fossilized animals of all those 3 animals.
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97% of scientists believe in evolution. I don't know where you got that number but I am one hundred percent certain it is wrong.
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Re: Professor Darwin's Church of 'Evolution': So what exactly is the faith in? Confirmation in total futility?
Evolution is just adaptation over an extremely long period of time. It's like 1+1 vs 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1.
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Evolution is a theory that was created to separate us from the most high
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Which ancestor of them do you want? There are hundreds of different fossilized animals of all those 3 animals.
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Yes and zero fossils of either of them turning into the other. Guess why?
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Fossils already show transitions (Tiktaalik) and the fossil record alone isn't the only thing one would use to prove evolution. D.N.A is an even stronger proof in my opinion.
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A house cat has similar DNA to a cougar but that doesn't mean it evolved from it
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Thats because they are both cats, and are more like cousins. Chimps and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, but neither evolved from one another.





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