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Why do Catholics worship Mary?

 
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Catholics don't worship Mary, they have a tremendous amount of admiration and RESPECT for her in being the mother of Jesus.
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What about statues?
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Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
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Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
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Catholics don't worship Mary, they have a tremendous amount of admiration and RESPECT for her in being the mother of Jesus.
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What about statues?
 Quoting: countryleftypenn


Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
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WTF are you babbling about?

All you retards are chaining strawmen after strawmen, I can't believe that shit...

STFU is you feel threatened by the intrinsic complexity of Catholicism.

Tard.


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Re: Why do Catholics worship Mary?
Christians probably want to have the rights to the term "worship"


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They are deceived and taught from an early age that God/jesus are men and therefore angry and strict-stern etc and it takes the tender motherly mercies of a woman to twist their arms
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Most all top theologians know that Jesus is a compilation of several theologies predicated on the Nicean Council circa 340 AD by Constantine. Why keep it going--Paycheck.

Adopted Pagan solstice for birth (Christmas) and Re-birth (Easter) made the mythical compilation of Jesus into the son of God Trinity bit during that council.

Mary was not a huge popular persona until the 1880's and then 1916 ish Fatima.

16-century artist put skin and bones (Paintings and Sculptures) on the allegorical memes/stories which were symbolic, not real people. The way they described and wrote during those highly inaccurate Biblical times.

Abraham was not a person...he was a tribe...
Magdelene was not a person...a meme for ...etc.

Most all of the Bible stories go way back before Popes... ...Greek is a start.

Read Lou Baldin's phenomenal works.
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Catholics don't worship Mary, they have a tremendous amount of admiration and RESPECT for her in being the mother of Jesus.
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What about statues?
 Quoting: countryleftypenn


Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
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Yeah you get it. Now just realize that Jesus can work through his people and his Church.

"You will do works greater than the works I do." -Jesus to the Apostles

"You are Peter and upon this rock I build my Church, and the Gates of Hell will not prevail against it. I give you the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you permit on Earth is permitted in Heaven and whatever you forbid on Earth is forbidden in Heaven." -Jesus to Peter

"Whoever's sins you forgive are forgiven and whoever's sins you retain are retained." -Jesus to the apostles

"This is my body/blood of the new and everlasting covenant which will be given up for many so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me." -Jesus to the apostles at the last supper
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Because the creators of Catholicism knew that they were ripping off the Truth that the CHRIST was a FEMALE and so they did it as a CYA?












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the temple church is within and we finish our own inner temple. The rock is the White Stone.
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The White Stone lets you know thyself.
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because it is written on by the hand of God.
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. First, you should know that there is a movement out there, usually from people who are very dedicated to the Rosary to foster a heresy. The heresy is elevating Mary from an intercessor to a co-redemptress. This is NOT AUTHORIZED IN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE. It is a cult
plain and simple. Now let's get to the reasons
1. Christianity is one of the few faiths that has not had a female deity as a part of the Godhead. Groups today are trying to make it so.. A lot of these groups are women lead, who are interested in greater positions of importance through this action.
2. Many have miracle sites that are not recognized by the Church as true appearances or apparition locales. The Catholic Church has only recognized three such sites. One is Fatima, then Lourdes, and finally one that many don't know, Lasalle' . The apparition appearances are always to children. La Salle is not mentioned much today due to the nature of "Mary's request" being "Do not work on Sundays". The other two are very popular "healing sites".
3. Originally, the rosary was a simple method of prayer and meditation mainly aimed at those who could not read. The Church language was Latin, and educated clerics and rich people utilized "The Book of Hours", as their daily prayer guide. The rosary was for those who wanted to have a daily meditative work, but the burden truthfully by these modern groups, keeps increasing.
3. The burden is this, the rosary takes over your daily life. What was once meant to be recited perhaps one Rosary a day has not been translated into Three or more per day. The people who practice them talk nonsense about being "Prayed up" as if there is an accumulative value. They use special expressions and have added Fatima prayers and other "extras" to the recitations. "Hail Holy Queen", and "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, I love you, save souls" at the end of each decade. Some groups recite other additional prayers at the end of the rosary and add the old Latin Mass extras at the end and special extra Hail Mary's for the Pope.
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You accuse me of “idolatry” for honoring the Blessed Mother Mary. You may remember that the Holy Spirit said through
her, “All generations will call me blessed.” (Luke 1:48).

Elizabeth was inspired by the Holy Spirit to refer to Mary as “the mother of my Lord.” (Luke 1:43).”

Jesus obeyed the fourth commandment and honored His Mother (Luke 2:51) and so should we. When we honor His Mother, we glorify God who created her.

Mary is our Mother in the order of grace (not nature) from the time that Jesus gave her as our Mother to St. John and to all humanity as His universal gift from His Cross when He told St. John, “Behold your Mother.” (John 19:27). Catholics follow Mary’s advice to “Do whatever He tells you” (John 2:5) and we behold her as our Mother, as Jesus asked us to do. The dogma of Mary, Mother of God, was defined by the Catholic (universal) Church at the Council of Ephesus in 431.

The Catholic Church is “the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” (1Timothy 3:15). The Catholic Church is the only authoritative teacher of God’s revelations to humanity. It has consistently taught these teachings that were believed by all Christians until Protestants began to deny them over 1500 years later.

Jesus came to leave a Church and not a book. He said to Peter, “You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.” (Matthew 16: 18). He also said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matthew 28:18). He gave this authority over to Peter, upon whom He founded His Church. The Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, gave us the Bible about 90 years after the death of Jesus. There was no Bible before that. The contents of that Bible were intact for over 1500 years until Protestants deleted parts of it and made up their own interpretations of it which continue to this day resulting in over 20,000 Protestant assemblies, none of which agree with the other as to what is the full truth of God’s revelation.

The Protestant teaching that only the Bible is the foundation of truth (sola scriptura) does not appear anywhere in the Bible and is contrary to the Bible itself that states that the Church is the foundation of the truth. (See 1 Timothy 3:15). This false teaching that the Bible is the foundation of truth was simply made up by those who protested the constant 1500+ years of the Catholic Church’s teachings. Only the Catholic Church, by the grace of God, has constantly taught without error the truth of what we are to believe and what we are to do, or not to do, in order to be saved, for over 2000 years.

So, regarding your accusation of my “idolatry” you should understand that an idol is an image or object that is worshipped as a god. I do not worship any image or object, particularly of the Blessed Mother, as a god. Catholics worship only the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Blessed Trinity, just as Jesus, true man and true God, one divine person having a divine nature and human nature, revealed Him to us.

Catholics honor, not worship, Mary, their heavenly Mother, through images and statues. However, these are simply representations of her to help us to remember her blessedness and to ask her for her help because she is living and in heaven. She intercedes to God on our behalf, much like she interceded to Jesus at the wedding of Cana for the bride and the groom when they ran out of wine. All Christians believed this and honored Mary in this way for over 1500 years until Protestants started disbelieving and started calling those who did so idolaters.

I hope that this explanation will help you to stop making such accusations and to honor Mary as your spiritual Mother who is living in heaven caring and interceding for you.

Contrary to your assertion that Mary was a sinner, by God’s grace she was not. God saved and preserved Mary from sin at her Immaculate Conception in anticipation of the merits of Christ. There is no time with God and He could and did save Mary by His grace before the crucifixion and death of Christ. That is how He honored His Mother as the New Eve, in the same way as He created the original Eve without sin, until she later committed the original sin, from which Christ redeemed repentant sinners by His gift of eternal life.
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Mary experienced God’s great Love-Visitation and Divine Intimation. She merged with the Spirit of God.
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Yoni and lingam
the misery of reproduction we are enslaved to.
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Because the Edomite/Ashkenazi Impostor Jevvs got first "divs" on MONEY!

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Catholics don't worship Mary, they have a tremendous amount of admiration and RESPECT for her in being the mother of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36960387


What about statues?
 Quoting: countryleftypenn


Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73651163


If you had read the Hebrew Bible, which you faith is supposed to be based on you would realize that the sin offerings were either for thanksgiving or for sins that you unintentionally commited. For sins that were intentionally committed you were able to repent and change your ways.

There was always a direct connection between you and G-d through repentance. You do not need to go through a false prophet named "jesus" to get to G-d. You should brush up on your Torah for some enlightenment in the areas that are the basis for the Christian faith.

You should also compare and contrast your jesus and his apostles with Paul.
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You first need to understand the difference between worship and prayer. We "pray" to the Blessed Mother...
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lazyskate Because the pope told you to? The Roman Catholic "church" is a construct from the pits of hell.

WHY IS MARY CRYING?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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What about statues?
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Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73651163


WTF are you babbling about?

All you retards are chaining strawmen after strawmen, I can't believe that shit...

STFU is you feel threatened by the intrinsic complexity of Catholicism.

Tard.


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And just as Eve was throughly hoodwinked, so too your mind has been swayed FROM THE SIMPLICITY OF CHRIST
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What about statues?
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Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73651163


If you had read the Hebrew Bible, which you faith is supposed to be based on you would realize that the sin offerings were either for thanksgiving or for sins that you unintentionally commited. For sins that were intentionally committed you were able to repent and change your ways.

There was always a direct connection between you and G-d through repentance. You do not need to go through a false prophet named "jesus" to get to G-d. You should brush up on your Torah for some enlightenment in the areas that are the basis for the Christian faith.

You should also compare and contrast your jesus and his apostles with Paul.
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And unbeknownst to you the penalty of those sins were simply accumulating in the background, forgiven for yet another year but that ultimately there would be a day of reckoning?

Or do you not yet know that those annual sacrifices were a reminder of your sins?

And he placed those sins on Jesus who paid the debt,

That is why he said they'd die in their sins if they did not believe he was who he said he was.
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Statues are a visual aid only , they are NOT worshiped ,they only bring to mind a particular saint when one is asking the saint to intercede in our behalf with God. As I see it the saints have graduated and we who are alive are students only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74460690


Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73651163


If you had read the Hebrew Bible, which you faith is supposed to be based on you would realize that the sin offerings were either for thanksgiving or for sins that you unintentionally commited. For sins that were intentionally committed you were able to repent and change your ways.

There was always a direct connection between you and G-d through repentance. You do not need to go through a false prophet named "jesus" to get to G-d. You should brush up on your Torah for some enlightenment in the areas that are the basis for the Christian faith.

You should also compare and contrast your jesus and his apostles with Paul.
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And unbeknownst to you the penalty of those sins were simply accumulating in the background, forgiven for yet another year but that ultimately there would be a day of reckoning?

Or do you not yet know that those annual sacrifices were a reminder of your sins?

And he placed those sins on Jesus who paid the debt,

That is why he said they'd die in their sins if they did not believe he was who he said he was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


You are able to repent and turn back to G-d at any point. Sin is just missing the mark. If Jesus died for your sins and took them on to himself, not possible according to Torah, then no Christian would ever die because no sins would be counted against them and the cause of death is sin ...

Does not compute.
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Then according to you then Jesus died for nothing. He died so that we NEVER had to go through men to reach God, and he became the sacrifice needed. Through him and ONLY him do we have access to the throne of God.

He is the ONLY way to the father.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73651163


If you had read the Hebrew Bible, which you faith is supposed to be based on you would realize that the sin offerings were either for thanksgiving or for sins that you unintentionally commited. For sins that were intentionally committed you were able to repent and change your ways.

There was always a direct connection between you and G-d through repentance. You do not need to go through a false prophet named "jesus" to get to G-d. You should brush up on your Torah for some enlightenment in the areas that are the basis for the Christian faith.

You should also compare and contrast your jesus and his apostles with Paul.
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And unbeknownst to you the penalty of those sins were simply accumulating in the background, forgiven for yet another year but that ultimately there would be a day of reckoning?

Or do you not yet know that those annual sacrifices were a reminder of your sins?

And he placed those sins on Jesus who paid the debt,

That is why he said they'd die in their sins if they did not believe he was who he said he was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


You are able to repent and turn back to G-d at any point. Sin is just missing the mark. If Jesus died for your sins and took them on to himself, not possible according to Torah, then no Christian would ever die because no sins would be counted against them and the cause of death is sin ...

Does not compute.
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The law's sacrifices atoned
Covered over sins
But they were still there.
And in fact those annual sacrifices are reminders of the sins

Jesus Christ did not atone for our sin.
He removed them.
Just what all the law and prophets testified to

How is it that you think the fact man still dies - man being appointed mortal sorrow - proves your point?

Dying, you will die.

That is two deaths.
We are not saved from the first but the second,
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If you had read the Hebrew Bible, which you faith is supposed to be based on you would realize that the sin offerings were either for thanksgiving or for sins that you unintentionally commited. For sins that were intentionally committed you were able to repent and change your ways.

There was always a direct connection between you and G-d through repentance. You do not need to go through a false prophet named "jesus" to get to G-d. You should brush up on your Torah for some enlightenment in the areas that are the basis for the Christian faith.

You should also compare and contrast your jesus and his apostles with Paul.
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And unbeknownst to you the penalty of those sins were simply accumulating in the background, forgiven for yet another year but that ultimately there would be a day of reckoning?

Or do you not yet know that those annual sacrifices were a reminder of your sins?

And he placed those sins on Jesus who paid the debt,

That is why he said they'd die in their sins if they did not believe he was who he said he was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


You are able to repent and turn back to G-d at any point. Sin is just missing the mark. If Jesus died for your sins and took them on to himself, not possible according to Torah, then no Christian would ever die because no sins would be counted against them and the cause of death is sin ...

Does not compute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75852656


The law's sacrifices atoned
Covered over sins
But they were still there.
And in fact those annual sacrifices are reminders of the sins

Jesus Christ did not atone for our sin.
He removed them.
Just what all the law and prophets testified to

How is it that you think the fact man still dies - man being appointed mortal sorrow - proves your point?

Dying, you will die.

That is two deaths.
We are not saved from the first but the second,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


That last line is flawed, there are two death
Oneof which is still appointed to man, the other is defeated,
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And unbeknownst to you the penalty of those sins were simply accumulating in the background, forgiven for yet another year but that ultimately there would be a day of reckoning?

Or do you not yet know that those annual sacrifices were a reminder of your sins?

And he placed those sins on Jesus who paid the debt,

That is why he said they'd die in their sins if they did not believe he was who he said he was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


You are able to repent and turn back to G-d at any point. Sin is just missing the mark. If Jesus died for your sins and took them on to himself, not possible according to Torah, then no Christian would ever die because no sins would be counted against them and the cause of death is sin ...

Does not compute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75852656


The law's sacrifices atoned
Covered over sins
But they were still there.
And in fact those annual sacrifices are reminders of the sins

Jesus Christ did not atone for our sin.
He removed them.
Just what all the law and prophets testified to

How is it that you think the fact man still dies - man being appointed mortal sorrow - proves your point?

Dying, you will die.

That is two deaths.
We are not saved from the first but the second,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76020410


That last line is flawed, there are two death
Oneof which is still appointed to man, the other is defeated,
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The Laws and the Prophets didn't point to the Messiah dying for peoples sin. The Law and the Prophets pointed to the Messiah bring people into full accordance with Torah at the third temple. The messiah is to be a mortal man, that lives to old age, with a wife and children. He is to accomplish this in the first go around.

You're reading your churchianity into the Hebrew Scriptures.
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Because the Edomite/Ashkenazi Impostor Jevvs got first "divs" on MONEY!
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hf


Mary would see through that and never follow cults.
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she would tear down those temples and build her own in three days.
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They've been lied to. Mary is someone to worship. But her last name is Magdalene..
She is the Chalice...
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Yoni and lingam
the miseryjoy of reproduction we are enslaved tolife itself.
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Fixed.
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Yoni and lingam
the misery joy of reproduction we are enslaved to life itself.
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Fixed.
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More fixeded.
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They've been lied to. Mary is someone to worship. But her last name is Magdalene..
She is the Chalice...
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I agree! Mary(both) are worthy of worship because they are pretty and kind.
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You first need to understand the difference between worship and prayer. We "pray" to the Blessed Mother...
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And WHAT did Jesus teach the Apostles about prayer?

Doesn't the Lord's Prayer SHOW / teach you folks ANYTHING?

Prayers GO TO THE FATHER

Matthew 6

9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.

13 And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


Luke 11

1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.





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