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New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans

 
sean
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Part of the problem of course, is that:

1) the Egyptians always potrayed themselves as being a mix of Black, brown and light skinned people.

2) The 'sea peoples' who invaded and ruled for a about a century were probably mediterranean, and almost certainly were not African.

3) Egypt was ruled for a time by (I think) the persians, who were middle-eastern, not African.

4) Ruled for a while by the Nubians who were African.

5) Ruled for a while by the Greeks, who were not African.

6) Ruled for a while by the Romans, who though not African could have used soldiers from north Africa as part of the Garrison.

So as you can see, the racial make-up of egyptian society was rather mixed, probably with more African at some points in its history and more non-African at other points in its history.

The results of the survey would depend on the date of the skeletons which would have affected the likelihood of particular racial dna showing up.

The Egyptians didn't rule Egypt for much of the last thousand years and so if the mummies they tested were mostly from that time, then results would've been as we see now.
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It always was, and still is(except for modern air travel), a whole lot easier to get to and from Europe and North Africa, than to get from Sub-Saharan Africa to North Africa.

The Sahara desert was and still is the isolating factor that allowed the development of separate races. Vast oceans and a few mountain ranges can do the same.

The Phoenicians, the Copts(mostly ancient Egyptian lineage), the Carthaginians, and the ancient Egyptians were/are White.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Of course, they belonged to the Mediterranean race which is the originating white race. This is known fact, they didn't have sub-Saharan DNA which lacks Neanderthal DNA. All of the people out of the sub-Saharan area have a percentage of 4% Neanderthal DNA, either they are North African, European, Asian, Native American or Australian Aboriginal.
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OP right you know.

Even to this day, we use the term "hermetic" in the sense of "secret"; "sealed so that nothing can escape"; etc., and this by reason of the fact that the followers of Hermes always observed the principle of secrecy in their teachings. They did not believe in "casting pearls before swine," but rather held to the teaching "milk for babes"; "meat for strong men," both of which maxims are familiar to readers of the Christian scriptures, but both of which had been used by the Egyptians for centuries before the Christian era.


Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not cast your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they may trample them under their feet, and then, turning, they may tear you apart. - Jesus in Matthew 7:6

Kybalion Hermes Teachings.
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brought to you by which scholars? show source.

it would be just as easy to add this in after Christ to give such an appearance...a lot of ancient manuscripts are forgeries...the brillance of Bible is the diversity of manuscripts in many different languages and from different sources.
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You must be a newb?, ever heard of the Great Hermes Trismegistus?.

[link to www.hermetics.org]

“The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding.” – The Kybalion.

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Part of the problem of course, is that:

1) the Egyptians always potrayed themselves as being a mix of Black, brown and light skinned people.

2) The 'sea peoples' who invaded and ruled for a about a century were probably mediterranean, and almost certainly were not African.

3) Egypt was ruled for a time by (I think) the persians, who were middle-eastern, not African.

4) Ruled for a while by the Nubians who were African.

5) Ruled for a while by the Greeks, who were not African.

6) Ruled for a while by the Romans, who though not African could have used soldiers from north Africa as part of the Garrison.

So as you can see, the racial make-up of egyptian society was rather mixed, probably with more African at some points in its history and more non-African at other points in its history.

The results of the survey would depend on the date of the skeletons which would have affected the likelihood of particular racial dna showing up.

The Egyptians didn't rule Egypt for much of the last thousand years and so if the mummies they tested were mostly from that time, then results would've been as we see now.
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African is not equal to Black, Northern African were white Mediterranean, not the whitest of the whites but still they were the same stock as all the Mediterraneans from the lands of Persia, Middle and Near East and the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. There is plenty of DNA from preserved mummies. As for the frescos (wall paintings) they tend to use darker colors for depicting men and lighter colors for women since men were the breadmakers and their skin would get tanned due to the great exposure in the Mediterranean, Near/Middle East Sun...
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans

No one ever said the ancient Egyptians were black Africans. They were mediterranean types, not too different from who they are today.

There was a similar advanced civilization to the south in Nubia, contemporaneous with the Egyptians, who were also great builders. These people were black Africans.
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Where do the bastardized modern "whites" whose ancestors left Europe in recent times to mix with other European immigrants in the new world fit in here?
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It always was, and still is(except for modern air travel), a whole lot easier to get to and from Europe and North Africa, than to get from Sub-Saharan Africa to North Africa.

The Sahara desert was and still is the isolating factor that allowed the development of separate races. Vast oceans and a few mountain ranges can do the same.

The Phoenicians, the Copts(mostly ancient Egyptian lineage), the Carthaginians, and the ancient Egyptians were/are White.
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Au contraire mon frere:

[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]

"But around 10,500 years ago, a sudden burst of monsoon rains over the vast desert transformed the region into habitable land.

This opened the door for humans to move into the area, as evidenced by the researcher's 500 new radiocarbon dates of human and animal remains from more than 150 excavation sites.

In the Egyptian Sahara, semi-arid conditions allowed for grasses and shrubs to grow, with some trees sprouting in valleys and near groundwater sources. The vegetation and small, episodic rain pools enticed animals well adapted to dry conditions, such as giraffes, to enter the area as well.

Humans also frolicked in the rain pools, as depicted in rock art from Southwest Egypt."
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
The filthy, vile, Mongrel-Theists invaded.

Those that refused to submit to Mongrel-Theism, were put-to-the-sword.

Of course the Mongrel-Theist knows nothing of genetics, or heredity.

The Mongrel-Theist theology, of which rape and murder is primary, has led to the explosion of homosexuality, gender confusion, transgenderism, and other assorted degenerate conditions or defects.
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You guys are morons, the article clearly states:

Scientists analysed ancient DNA from Egyptian mummies dating from 1400 BC to 400 AD and discovered they shared genes with people from the Mediterranean.
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By the year 1400 BC, Egypt was no longer 'ancient Egypt'. Egypt stopped being Egypt many millenia before that. Egypt was invaded and taken over many times at the end, just like Rome, just like America will be. That doesn't mean that the true egyptians, the ones who drew themselves as brownskin negros in hieroglyphs etc. weren't black.
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Plain, straightforward English:

‘However in the last 1,500 years Egypt became more genetically African, whereas the ancient Egyptians showed almost no sub-Saharan African ancestry and high affinity to ancient Near Eastern and European populations.’


Interpretation:

Before 1500 years ago, almost no "black" or native African.

Since 1500 years ago, more and more "black" or native African admixture.
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False. This study didn't include DNA results of those who lived in Egypt before 1400 B.C. (which is the period before the "ancient Egytians" mentioned in the article).
In plain English, they're saying that the people who live in Egypt now are "blacker" than the people whose remains were tested in this study. That's all. Therefore, a conclusion that ancient Egyptians (i.e., those who lived in Egypt before 1400 BC) had "almost no black or native African" ancestry is completely unsupported.
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I congratulate you for being able to read and understand what you're reading. Unfortunately, the racists with the 'high IQs' are not as smart as mommy led them to believe. Now you know why the snowflake generation is worthless and they import foreigners for all the real jobs nowadays.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Read the ancient Sumerian history. The oldest history and pre-dates the Bible, which the Bible was almost verbatim lifted from Sumerian history.. Except the Bible leaves out that we were literally created by DNA engineering by advanced beings. The Sumerians tell us that the Black race was an earlier attempt at DNA engineering and the later White race was created in the image and likeness of our creators, who were highly intelligent beings. This explains why blacks, are savages, destroy things, wreck cities built by whites and never created a thing worthwhile. Everything blacks take for granted was created by people other than them. It's flat-out in their DNA that they will always remain as they are and any attempt to push them to high positions will destroy the rest of what humanity has accomplished.
The Sumerians tell us that the black race was an earlier failed attempt at DNA engineering. It's not skin color that makes them such an abomination.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Arabs are white.

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Red haired Arabs? Not a chance. They were ancient Irish ☘️ FYI there is an Egyptian burial ground in Ireland. The Phoenicians were ancient mariners from Ireland look it up.
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b-b-b-but thaaat's RACIST!
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Arabic people are Caucasian . This isn’t surprising at all.
Open your eyes
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
They were neither Imao.
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The direction of causation is also unclear. For all we know, the black Egyptians made the pyramids and made Egypt great, which is what drew people from other races/cultures there.

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:good laugh:
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Arabs are white.

[link to www.reference.com]
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Red haired Arabs? Not a chance. They were ancient Irish ☘️ FYI there is an Egyptian burial ground in Ireland. The Phoenicians were ancient mariners from Ireland look it up.
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"The Scots are originally Egyptians and that's the truth."
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
They were basically everything Imao. Romans and Greeks (who were white), Persians (Persians, duh), and Nubians (who were black) all ruled Egypt at different periods of time. I'd honestly argue that it wasn't one race, just a huge mix of a bunch.
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The original creators of Ancient Egypt from Kush and Nubia into Egypt were definitely black. Going towards the fall of Ancient Egypt and the reasons for it's fall were, Greeks, Persians, Arabs, Turks etc.

The articule states it as if Ancient Egypt was created and maintained by Europeans. That is 100 percent false.
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Martin was right,tut was white.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Then explain the hieroglyphs that picture

them all as Arabs
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Newsflash-Arabs are Caucasians!
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Caucasian is based on phrenology not skin color. Even a lot of Indians are considered Caucasian.
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Caucasians are the lineage of Abraham and his wife


Arabs are the Lineage of Abraham and his slave
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How can real people be related to fictional characters? That is the most retarded shit I've read in a long time. [link to media1.tenor.com (secure)]
"These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. And I can't change their mind. I won't change my mind, 'cause I don't have to. 'Cause I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change."
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Charles Darwin couldn't figure which shithole was his ass, mouth, or brain.

What makes you think he could classify humans any better?
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Then explain the hieroglyphs that picture

them all as Arabs
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Newsflash-Arabs are Caucasians!
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Exactly

There are 3 races in the world defined by anthropologists
Who measure skull shape to determine race

The 3

Caucasoid
Mongoloid
Negroid

Everyone else is a subtype ethnicity not a race

The only group who is outside of this is the austrailian natives aborigines
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But modern day Israel is all European whites that converted to Judaism and then decided to move to Palestine ?
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Of course. And native Americans were whites.
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North east America had blued eyed Indians. My grandfather was one of them.
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My family lineage also. Eastern Tribes. Descended from Nordics and Darker skinned (Portuguese?)
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But modern day Israel is all European whites that converted to Judaism and then decided to move to Palestine ?
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Most are Asiatic mongrels, not White, not descendants of the Egyptians who settled in Canaan and later migrated westward to Scotland.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Of course. And native Americans were whites.
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borrowed gens

good example, black guy, white woman, have a kid, the kid is 50/50 , this kid grows and married with a white partner

so now this grown up kid has a child, that child is

50/black/50/white + 100 white

this is 150% white and 50 less black.

you get the picture about borrowed gens
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Then explain the hieroglyphs that picture

them all as Arabs
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We spend most of our time in doors. My Grandma, is pretty much damn near straight German. The first year her and Grandpa lives full time in Florida, she spent too much time outside gardening.

Her skin was like burnt bronze, and at the family reunion the running joke was "so Grandpa got a divorce and married a Puerto Rican"...

Franklin, good old Ben, one of his first businesses was a German speaking newspaper(as none existed at the time).

The Germans had no interest in the paper, and for the rest of his life, Ben was an anti German bigot. German's tend to get dark/burnt bronze when outside ALOT, so, Ben would keep saying stuff like "swarthy Germans" and all kinds of other stupid antics.
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Re: New DNA study Finds Ancient Egyptians were European Whites, NOT Black Africans
Of course. And native Americans were whites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76134749


borrowed gens

good example, black guy, white woman, have a kid, the kid is 50/50 , this kid grows and married with a white partner

so now this grown up kid has a child, that child is

50/black/50/white + 100 white

this is 150% white and 50 less black.

you get the picture about borrowed gens
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74018906


Genetics doesn't work that way.

Black man+white woman=offspring that is 80% negroid, 20% Caucasian.

Mulatto marries white= offspring that is still predominately African.

There looking at genetics before the Bronze Age collapse and invasion of the Sea Peoples, so your whole entire reply is worth less than used toilet paper.





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