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Cheney: Threat of nuclear attack in U.S. city 'very real'

By Mark Silva
Washington Bureau
Published April 16, 2007


WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, often called upon to deliver the administration's toughest talk about the wars abroad, now says this about the threat of terrorists detonating a nuclear bomb in an American city: "It's a very real threat. ... Something that we have to worry about and defeat every single day."

Cheney's warning about what's at stake for the U.S. in withdrawing from Iraq, delivered in a TV interview Sunday and coupled with a speech in Chicago on Friday and a war statement that President Bush plans to make Monday, is part of an escalating chorus of pressure that the White House hopes to exert on Democrats to approve a new war-spending bill.


Vowing to veto any spending bill that includes a timeline for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, which the Senate and House have approved in varying forms, the Bush administration believes it ultimately will win a "clean" bill -- predicting that Democratic leaders will buckle after Bush vetoes their bill.

"I'm willing to bet" the Democrats eventually will concede, Cheney said in an interview on CBS News' "Face the Nation" recorded the day before.

"If they don't have the votes to override the president's veto ... they will not leave the troops in the field without the resources they need to be able to carry out their mission," Cheney said. "There may be some people who are so irresponsible that they wouldn't support that, but I think the fact of the matter is that the majority of Democrats ... will in fact give us the bill that's absolutely essential."

Cheney, who accused Democratic leaders of reverting to an "early 1970s" sense of "abandonment and retreat" in his speech Friday, said in his CBS interview that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has taken an "irresponsible" stance in insisting upon attaching an autumn 2008 timeline for withdrawal to the war spending bill.

"He's done a complete 180 from where he was, in five months," Cheney said of Reid. "He cannot make the basic, fundamental decisions that have to be made, with respect to the nation's security, given everything that's at stake in the war on terror and what we're doing in Iraq and with 140,000 American troops in the field in Iraq, in combat, every day, and call that kind of rapid change in position anything other than irresponsible."


Reid hits back

Reid rejected the criticism.

"Vice President Cheney has long since lost credibility, so it should be no surprise that he would spend time this morning continuing to mislead us about the war in Iraq," Reid said in a statement released Sunday. "The American people know that the height of irresponsibility is to put this country at risk by mismanaging a war from day one, drawing our troops further into a civil war.

"Democrats are determined to make sure the troops have the funds they need," Reid said, maintaining that a timeline for withdrawal would force the Iraqis to take responsibility for the fight.

The administration's underlying argument for the combat in Iraq is that it is central to a global war against terrorism. And Bush has repeatedly attempted to attach the Iraq conflict to a threat of terrorism at home.

"I have told the American people often it is best to defeat them there, so we don't have to face them here," Bush said this month.

And it is an argument that Cheney made in the interview aired Sunday, a conversation between Cheney and host Bob Schieffer, who asked the vice president if he has changed in some fundamental way since taking office. What has happened, Cheney said, is "9/11."

Sept. 11 "did have, I think, a remarkable impact on the threat to the United States on what we were required to deal with as an administration," Cheney said.


'Greatest threat we face'

"The fact is that the threat to the United States now of a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities, is the greatest threat we face," he said. "It's a very real threat. It's something that we have to worry about and defeat every single day."

The administration has confronted questions about Bush's warnings about terrorists "following us home" if not defeated in Iraq, despite his assertion that security tactics have made the nation safer.

Asked about that, the president downplayed a specific threat. "I'm not going to predict to you the methodology they'll use," Bush said. "Just you need to know they want to hit us again.

"We spend a lot of time trying to protect this country," he said. "But if they were ever to have safe haven, it would make the efforts much harder. That's my point. We cannot let them have safe haven again."

Iraq will become that haven, Cheney said in the interview aired Sunday, if the U.S. withdraws without leaving an Iraqi government capable of sustaining and defending itself.

"There's a fundamental debate going on here, in terms of whether or not our objective in Iraq is to withdraw, or whether our objective in Iraq is to complete the mission," Cheney said. "And I think a majority of Americans would prefer the latter, if we can get it done."

Pressed about the suicide bombing in the Green Zone last week and death tolls across Iraq, Cheney insisted that the U.S. is making progress there.

"Of course it's hard," he said. "But it's absolutely essential that we get it right. There's an awful lot riding on it, not only in Iraq, but in terms of the efforts we're making in that part of the world to deal with this global war on terror."

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
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well he should know
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rockefeller made the same threat after 911.usa has to be brought down for there satanic new world order of antichrist to rise.
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No wonder those pesky quails panicked him ino shooting his 'pal' in the face!
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well he should know
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You beat me to it.
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Cheney is a fucking dick, he would love to see a nuke go off in America, false flag style.
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You beat me to it.
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Both of you beat ME to it. LOL!
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Cheney is a fucking dick, he would love to see a nuke go off in America, false flag style.
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That is a very irresponsible comment, and is not based on ANY facts, except your twisted hatred of Bush and Cheney, and your belief in WILD conspiracy theories.

If you hate Bush and Cheney's policies, that is one thing.But to hate the Vice-President PERSONALLY is just weird.

To claim that he WANTS a nuke to go off in an American city, borders on insane.

What the hell is the matter with people like you anyway ?
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Cheney is a fucking dick, he would love to see a nuke go off in America, false flag style.
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""I have told the American people often it is best to defeat them there, so we don't have to face them here," Bush said this month."

Well, Cheney said we should have a nuke attack in one of our cities. He should know because of plans laid down by Wolfowitz, which include Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta. The enemy is within.

Bush knows darn well that we are in for "terrorist" attacks on our soil, despite the Iraq/Iran problems. There are Mossad cells in many locations set up to detonate bombs, not only in the US, but in Canada and Mexico as well.

It doesn't take a wild stretch of the imagination to see what chaos would result should a bomb be detonated at the same time numerous attacks on our schools would take place. Don't ever underestimate the tactics of your enemy when you know his objective.
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If you hate Bush and Cheney's policies, that is one thing.But to hate the Vice-President PERSONALLY is just weird.


What the hell is the matter with people like you anyway ?
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What the hell is wrong with me is i don't like chickenshit chickenhawks starting wars on false pretenses, ie Iraq - especially that he shirked with five, or was it seven ? , deferments when it was his turn during vietnam era...

but oh yeah he can beat the drums and wave the flag for others of us to go to war.

And he and his ilk are fully capable of a false flag nuke attack, somewhere sometime.
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Cheney is a fucking dick, he would love to see a nuke go off in America, false flag style.



That is a very irresponsible comment, and is not based on ANY facts, except your twisted hatred of Bush and Cheney, and your belief in WILD conspiracy theories.

If you hate Bush and Cheney's policies, that is one thing.But to hate the Vice-President PERSONALLY is just weird.

To claim that he WANTS a nuke to go off in an American city, borders on insane.

What the hell is the matter with people like you anyway ?
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Nothing is wrong with him. Cheney i the same VP who ordered NORAD to stand down on sept 11th, who still to this day believes Iraq had ties to Al-Qaida (like our CIA does) and funded the sept 11th strikes against us. How do you break protocol and order a stand down of fighters to protect your country from hijacked airplanes? It's a fact, he's facing impeachment the guy is not good he's a dictator just like Dubyah. They are both Dictators and have done more to destroy the constitution and the rights of the people they swore to uphold when taking office then any other president before them. They created a pearl harbor like crisis to get us into war with Afghanistan and Iraq for oil, and to form military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan for an inevitable confrontation with Iran and Syria.

If you can not see the facts as they are presented to you, then you are nothing more then sheep following your master, only he's not going to sheer you he's going to fatten you for slaughter.

Terror is the excuse to erode the constitution and bill of rights and establish a false sense of security.

Fear is the tool they use, The where's Waldo of the intelligence world, Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaida.

This guy is so slippery he can avoid our CIA (which for what ever reason no one else in the world seams to be able to, when they want you dead you die ask JFK), did i mention they trained him and, have him on retainer still (government black ops man, he keeps the royal family afraid in Saudi Arabia).

When the government needs to scare the people into submission, they inject some more fear on the premise of terror and promise more security, everything is done "for your protection."

April 16th is proof of that, the government can not protect you. not from an insane person calling himself question mark, with an imaginary girlfriend, who knows that calling the school with a fake bomb threat will trigger a police response time and eventually allow him to know how they respond. The story was he killed people because his girlfriend cheated on him, but roommates said he did not have one. So what's the story?

either way if more then 1 person was armed that day, chances are that the shootings would have been much more minimal. the fact they were defenseless and he knew it made it all the more easy for him to go on a murder spree. The more i read about this story the more i realize that something just does not seam right about it. If it ends in a loss of more liberty's and or the disarming of American's then i will instantly consider this an inside job.

being a patriot means questioning your government and whether or not they are obeying the law of the land (the consitution) otherwise the right to bear arms is then required to take action and defend ones rights before they are eroded.

nuff said.
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^ shut the fuck up you useless tool.
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Cheyney is a threat to humanity. Period.
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AC:
"The more i read about this story the more i realize that something just does not seam right about it. If it ends in a loss of more liberty's and or the disarming of American's then i will instantly consider this an inside job."

Same here, but I already think it was an inside job. Their stories just don't add up, no matter which way I look at it.
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Yep, ole deadeye Dick prolly been burnin the midnight oil to make it very real. If all Al Qaeda needed on 9/11 was boxcutters and airplanes, why they bother with a nuke? Or if they have one, why didn't they use it on 9/11, or did they?
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225005,

As usual with you conspiracy loonies, you have NO proof that Cheney told NORAD to "stand down" on 9/11.

You have NO proof that he is "on retainer" with the CIA.

You throw out a million allegations, and hope that something will stick.

Reading something on an America-haters blog does not make it true.

If you ACTUALLY had proof that Cheney had betrayed our country, then go to a damn grand jury and get an indictment.
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'do the orders still stand?'

takes care of that.

do your reading - till then pipe down.
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Cheney, who accused Democratic leaders of reverting to an "early 1970s" sense of "abandonment and retreat" in his speech Friday, said in his CBS interview that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has taken an "irresponsible" stance in insisting upon attaching an autumn 2008 timeline for withdrawal to the war spending bill.

Cheney has resorted to the early 1970's Republican tradition of war, illegality, human rights violations and nonsensical ranting like his predecesssor Spiro Agnew.
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225005,

As usual with you conspiracy loonies, you have NO proof that Cheney told NORAD to "stand down" on 9/11.

You have NO proof that he is "on retainer" with the CIA.

You throw out a million allegations, and hope that something will stick.

Reading something on an America-haters blog does not make it true.

If you ACTUALLY had proof that Cheney had betrayed our country, then go to a damn grand jury and get an indictment.
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I guess you didn't hear Mineta's testimony...


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When does he give the order this time?
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America has been under a threat of nuke attack since I was in grade school in the '50s.

The big question: why has it not happened?
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oh, that means
Threat of nuclear insidejob in U.S. city 'very real'???
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America has been under a threat of nuke attack since I was in grade school in the '50s.

The big question: why has it not happened?
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Kenton, back in the 50s, it was the threat that the Russians were going to nuke us any day now. Times and the enemy have changed. We're supposed to hate the Islamics now. However, the real threat isn't from outside, it's inside. Big difference. Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone, though.
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America has been under a threat of nuke attack since I was in grade school in the '50s.

The big question: why has it not happened?


Kenton, back in the 50s, it was the threat that the Russians were going to nuke us any day now. Times and the enemy have changed. We're supposed to hate the Islamics now. However, the real threat isn't from outside, it's inside. Big difference. Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone, though.
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In the '50s I saw that one day everybody and their dog would have a nuke including private individuals.

The Genii uncorked.
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In fact I chirped this to my teachers which somehow pissed them off, wee whippersnapper was me.
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The Threat is very, very real. The question is just where that threat is coming from. The genii indeed is out of the bottle and there is no way to recork it.

Cheney does have a point though.

Who here thinks that 9-11 could have happened or something very similar to it, when the Looking Glass planes were in the air all the time. When the fighter bases were still fully manned, planed, and armed?

There is a rock and a hard place about shooting down civilian passanger liners. Many have asked why the SAM's around DC were not activated while other accuse Cheney of giving the order to shoot down the airliners. People you can't have it both ways.

I remind that those airliners could just as easily have been carrying nukes as C4, knives, and box cutters.

Shipping cargo containers not being inspected, sit around on American ports, how many of them already have a nuke in them? Take out the USA's seaports and that cripples America very effectivley.

A terrorist is a terrorist, not necessarily a group, organizstion, or nation state. The Shooter(s) at VT was terrorist, killing 33 people. He could just as easily have been a suicide bomber. Anyone CAN be a terrorist, that is the whole "beauty" of the war on terror. Just like anyone CAN be a drug dealer, Just like anyone CAN be a criminal. All crime against the person or property is a form of terrorism.

Taxation induced poverty is terrorism too on its victims, but very few seem to even care about that form of terrorism.
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In fact I chirped this to my teachers which somehow pissed them off, wee whippersnapper was me.
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I did the same thing too, got the same results.
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225005,

As usual with you conspiracy loonies, you have NO proof that Cheney told NORAD to "stand down" on 9/11.

You have NO proof that he is "on retainer" with the CIA.

You throw out a million allegations, and hope that something will stick.

Reading something on an America-haters blog does not make it true.

If you ACTUALLY had proof that Cheney had betrayed our country, then go to a damn grand jury and get an indictment.
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Sticks head in sand.
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bump
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^ shut the fuck up you useless tool.
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yes that told him!





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