Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,336 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,060,131
Pageviews Today: 1,769,135Threads Today: 714Posts Today: 12,750
05:24 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?

 
DGN
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/26/2018 01:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell's DNA to enable ribosomes to assemble it's amino acids.?


Last Edited by DGN on 02/17/2019 11:33 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73162705
United States
01/26/2018 01:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell to enable it's assembly?

 Quoting: DGN


What are you doing about this yelp review...

This review is for steve. very dissatisfied with your service! we asked for a 10 min. heads up, did not get one . and you came 20 min. early! And your employee used our bathroom without even asking.That is so unproffesional . YOU HAVE LOST MY BUSINESS AND I AM A LOCAL AND I HAVE USED YOU BEFORE. RUSS WESSEL 6/15/2016

...carpet bitch.
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/26/2018 04:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?

How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell to enable it's assembly?


How do ribosomes read the DNA data and add the right amino acid every time, millions of times over if not intelligently programed?

Last Edited by DGN on 02/13/2018 04:25 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76138881
Sweden
01/26/2018 05:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yep, life is the result of intelligent design but so is the hypnosis explit, designed and implanted in our DNA...
So the question is:
This God we all obey, did He designed us from a to z or he just altered our DNA and made us more stupid (hence gullible --> obedient) to suit his needs ?

This God is an impostor.
We were once a bunch of very intelligent beings, created by the Primordial Being (the true God); but then these invaders came and downgraded us into intelligent shovels and forced us to call them Gods
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/26/2018 07:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yep, life is the result of intelligent design but so is the hypnosis explit, designed and implanted in our DNA...
So the question is:
This God we all obey, did He designed us from a to z or he just altered our DNA and made us more stupid (hence gullible --> obedient) to suit his needs ?

This God is an impostor.
We were once a bunch of very intelligent beings, created by the Primordial Being (the true God); but then these invaders came and downgraded us into intelligent shovels and forced us to call them Gods
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76138881


Good call here's your backup;
"And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” Rv7:9
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/26/2018 10:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Ok so is the video data just no fun?
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/26/2018 11:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Ok so I admit the the data in the video was a bit mind boggling so, let's lighten up on the science and consider a 'lighter', alternative, explanation of the origin of the first living cell, fair enough?

strgzr

User ID: 1003161
United States
01/26/2018 11:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
bump for later
:)
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/27/2018 02:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yep, life is the result of intelligent design but so is the hypnosis explit, designed and implanted in our DNA...
So the question is:
This God we all obey, did He designed us from a to z or he just altered our DNA and made us more stupid (hence gullible --> obedient) to suit his needs ?

This God is an impostor.
We were once a bunch of very intelligent beings, created by the Primordial Being (the true God); but then these invaders came and downgraded us into intelligent shovels and forced us to call them Gods
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76138881

Who is the true God and what is his intention?
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 08:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell's DNA to enable ribosomes to assemble it's amino acids.?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: DGN


So Sci-fY Cult, maybe the DNA data got inscribed by sand moving to and fro etching the data in the primordial soup?
cool2

Last Edited by DGN on 02/13/2018 04:26 PM
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 08:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell's DNA to enable ribosomes to assemble it's amino acids.?

 Quoting: DGN


So Sci-fY Cult, maybe the DNA data got inscribed by sand moving to and fro etching the data in the primordial soup?
cool2
 Quoting: DGN


Or hey how about this, you know those those caveman drawings? Maybe those guys carved in the data with arrowheads, ya gotta go waaay back ya know?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72531636
United States
01/28/2018 08:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
That's not how it works. By the time the first cell formed and could be considered "life", we already had self-replicating, non-living entities. Viroids around today are a great example of this.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72531636
United States
01/28/2018 08:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Sand did not carry the information or store it. Organic molecules did.
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 08:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Sand did not carry the information or store it. Organic molecules did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72531636

Not exactly, the data is stored in the protein deoxyribonucleic acid which is copied from preexisting data and ribosomes to assemble.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72531636
United States
01/28/2018 08:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yes, and all of those are made of organic molecules. D.N.A for example, is made up of nucleotides, an organic molecule.
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 09:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yes, and all of those are made of organic molecules. D.N.A for example, is made up of nucleotides, an organic molecule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72531636


Yes isn't everything made of molecules, I'm missing your point.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75409848
United States
01/28/2018 09:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Total science fiction failure
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 09:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Total science fiction failure
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848


Ok so you have an explanation, not for the undirected spontaneous forming of the first protein, without DNA assembly instructions, but citing what it's basic building block were?
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/28/2018 10:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell's DNA to enable ribosomes to assemble it's amino acids.?

 Quoting: DGN


So Sci-fY Cult, maybe the DNA data got inscribed by sand moving to and fro etching the data in the primordial soup?
cool2
 Quoting: DGN


Or hey how about this, you know those those caveman drawings? Maybe those guys carved in the data with arrowheads, ya gotta go waaay back ya know?

 Quoting: DGN

OK so no votes on cave men making the first protein from scratch, ok but what about going back even further, how about this guy, seems really close to the earth?


Last Edited by DGN on 01/28/2018 10:39 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6183665
United States
01/28/2018 10:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
I like your material, DNG, just don't expect the earthdwellers to listen.

They are in the thrall of their monkey religion and quite dogmatic.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76138881
Sweden
01/29/2018 09:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Yep, life is the result of intelligent design but so is the hypnosis explit, designed and implanted in our DNA...
So the question is:
This God we all obey, did He designed us from a to z or he just altered our DNA and made us more stupid (hence gullible --> obedient) to suit his needs ?

This God is an impostor.
We were once a bunch of very intelligent beings, created by the Primordial Being (the true God); but then these invaders came and downgraded us into intelligent shovels and forced us to call them Gods
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76138881

Who is the true God and what is his intention?
 Quoting: DGN


I suspect the only satisfaction he's got left, which also
helps him get over his loneliness, is to create new life
forms and see if they mature or not and I don't think he
craves/cares for the recognition (adulation) of his work.

Anyway, from time to time, I think 'Thank you Father. How are you?'
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/29/2018 12:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
I like your material, DNG, just don't expect the earthdwellers to listen.

They are in the thrall of their monkey religion and quite dogmatic.
 Quoting: The_This


Yeah quite an intellectual anomaly, Professor Darwin never could make a man out of a monkey but he made millions of monkeys out of men, and offers zero compensation for their submission, just the conformation of their life's total meaningless, fleeting futility..

Last Edited by DGN on 01/29/2018 12:09 PM
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76140224
United States
01/29/2018 09:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
I like your material, DNG, just don't expect the earthdwellers to listen.

They are in the thrall of their monkey religion and quite dogmatic.
 Quoting: The_This


Hey speaking of dogs, know why they went extinct? When food ran short the started craving plankton, due their knowledge of marine biology, so they morphed themselves into whales, before they starved out so they could catch some. Check it out;

DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76193900
United States
02/03/2018 05:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
I like your material, DNG, just don't expect the earthdwellers to listen.

They are in the thrall of their monkey religion and quite dogmatic.
 Quoting: The_This


Hey speaking of dogs, know why they went extinct? When food ran short the started craving plankton, due their knowledge of marine biology, so they morphed themselves into whales, before they starved out so they could catch some. Check it out;

 Quoting: DGN


This is why science no longer needs missing links to prove evolution, that's so old school, and who ever found them anyway?
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76193900
United States
02/06/2018 10:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
I like your material, DNG, just don't expect the earthdwellers to listen.

They are in the thrall of their monkey religion and quite dogmatic.
 Quoting: The_This


Speaking of that professor Darwin did appear a bit apeish.
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76193900
United States
02/13/2018 04:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
How was the gigabyte of structural/operational data accidentally inscribed into the first cell's DNA to enable ribosomes to assemble it's amino acids.?

 Quoting: DGN


Remember now, intelligent design is not possible so....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75409848
United States
02/13/2018 04:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
It is not even science fiction, it is just fiction.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76230690
United States
02/13/2018 04:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Never said a God never had a chance, but abiogenesis is currently the best hypothesis for the origin of life on Earth.
DGN  (OP)

User ID: 76193900
United States
02/13/2018 04:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Never said a God never had a chance, but abiogenesis is currently the best hypothesis for the origin of life on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76230690


Because it explains how nonexistent ribosomes decoded nonexistent DNA blueprints and sequenced amino acids into the first protein, having one chance in 10 to the 163rd power?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75432471
United States
04/17/2018 07:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?
Idk tbh
Terces Egassem

User ID: 43674430
United States
02/17/2019 11:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Abiogenesis: An explanation of the origin of life or total sci-Fy failure?


Even if you try to make the task really simple it is a fails. How about this? What if the first cell had only 100 proteins and each protein had only 4 amino acids each?

See the video and find out.

The simplest bacteria has about 50,000 proteins.

Last Edited by Terces Egassem on 02/17/2019 11:28 AM
>(S)<Sims





GLP