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FISA Memo - Summary and Analysis

 
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For people who just want a TL;DR: In short, the DNC/Clinton campaign/Steele/FBI/DOJ colluded to fabricate evidence against Trump, and used this as evidence to illegally obtain a surveillance warrant, and renew it 3 times, that was used to surveil an American citizen, and lied to President-elect Trump regarding the nature of the dossier.

Here's the document: [link to docs.house.gov]

SUMMARY

"Our findings 1) raise concerns with the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), and 2) represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses related to the FISA process."

The FISA warrant application "had to be first certified by the Director [Comey] or Deputy Director [McCabe] of the FBI. It then required the approval of the Attorney General [Lynch], Deputy Attorney General (DAG) [Yates - the source of the charges against Gen. Flynn; then Boente; then Rosenstein], or the Senate-confirmed Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division."

The initial FISA warrant was granted on October 21, 2016, and this was then approved three times.

"Then-Director James Comey signed three FISA applications in question on behalf of the FBI, and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe signed one. Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of the DOJ."

Key charge: "material and relevant information was omitted."

1) The dossier, written by Steele on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign, formed an essential part of the FISA application.

a. Neither the application nor the renewals disclose this relationship, even though the DOJ and FBI knew it.

b. The initial application does not name Fusion GPS or Glenn Simpson, who paid Steele on behalf of the DNC, even though it was known to the DOJ. Nor does the application mention the payment to Steele, or that he was working for the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI paid him for the information.

2) The FISA application relied heavily on a Yahoo News article by Michael Isikoff. This story was based on information derived from Steele, and was used to support the validity of the dossier Steele wrote. The application says that Steele did not provide information to Yahoo News.

a. When Steele revealed in Oct 2016 that he had provided information to Isikoff, the FBI fired him.

b. Steele's numerous encounters with the media violated the requirement of confidentiality and reliability as a source for a FISA warrant.

3) Steele maintained contact with DOJ Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Yates and Rosenstein. In September 2016, prior to the application, Steele admitted to Ohr that the dossier was politically motivated. This information was known to the DOJ and FBI, but was not recorded in the FISA application.

a. During this period, Ohr's wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in "the cultivation of opposition research on Trump." This research was then given to the FBI by Ohr, and paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign. This relationship was not disclosed during the application.

4) After the FBI fired Steele, an FBI investigation proved that the dossier was "only minimally corroborated." Yet, in January 2017, Comey briefed President Trump on the dossier and failed to reveal this. He also concealed the anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations behind the dossier. In Dec 2017, McCade testified that the warrant would not have been granted but for the dossier

5) Absolves Papadopoulos of collusion with Page.

ANALYSIS

In short, the DNC/Clinton campaign/Steele/FBI/DOJ colluded to fabricate evidence against Trump, and used this as evidence to illegally obtain a surveillance warrant, and renew it 3 times, that was used to surveil an American citizen, and lied to President-elect Trump regarding the nature of the dossier.

More specifically,
(i) the DOJ and FBI failed to disclose the financial and ideological bias of Steele to the FISA court;
(ii) the DOJ and FBI failed to disclose the role of the DNC and Clinton campaign in funding the dossier to the FISA court;
(iii) the FBI failed to disclose to the FISA court that they were paying Steele for information;
(iv) the legitimacy of the dossier was justified with reference to a Yahoo News article, the content of which was based on information provided by the writer of that very dossier, Steele;
(v) when Steele revealed that he was the source for the Yahoo News article, which undermined the validity of the application, the FBI fired him;
(vi) Steele's role in the article invalidated him as a confidential and reliable source, yet he remained the key source in requests to renew the warrant;
(vii) Steele revealed to the DOJ that he was anti-Trump, and the DOJ (and FBI) hid this information from the FISA court;
(viii) the wife of the implicated DOJ official, Ohr, worked in Fusion GPS and was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign for anti-Trump information, neither of which facts were reported to the FISA court;
(ix) Comey personally lied to President-elect Trump regarding the validity of the dossier;
(x) the FISA warrant would not have been granted but for these lies.

At the very least, the following individuals should now be subject to criminal investigation:

James Comey
Andrew McCabe
Sally Yates
Dana Boente
Rod Rosenstein
Hillary Clinton
Loretta Lynch
Bruce Ohr
Nelly Ohr
Christopher Steele
Glenn Simpson
Pete Strzok
Lisa Page
Tom Perez (head of DNC)
Donna Brazile (former acting head of DNC)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (former head of DNC)
Michael Isikoff

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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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fulsome thoughts for sure
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Sad that Pedesta is not in this list. Him and his bro need to be behind bars.
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Shin this pit!
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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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What your asking for should come later, it's not the purpose of this kind of document.
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Massive coverup. The Judge will have to save himself and heads will roll. Judge Rudolph Contreraas

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They circumvented constitutional provisions for fair and just elections and government and rule of law.

Treason?

Coup?
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Thank you! I've been typing all day trying to show the shills what this means. No headway.
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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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What your asking for should come later, it's not the purpose of this kind of document.
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I hope it does. Let's see if it leads to bigger revelations. As written this isn't going to mean much to the average person.
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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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You misunderstand the purpose of the memo. It isn't to craft charges. A memo that did that would have to cite a significant number of laws, provide evidence, etc. This memo is intended only to outline what happened - hence the language.
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They circumvented constitutional provisions for fair and just elections and government and rule of law.

Treason?

Coup?
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Quite possibly. But even if it doesn't go that far, many lesser laws were broken.
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OP updated to include DNC officials who ought to be investigated.
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C10-Q81
Treasure is placed in a temple by
Western citizens withdrawn
therein to a secret place, the
temple to open by hungry bonds,
recaptured, revished, a terrible
prey in the midst.


N (Nina): The picture I was getting was within United States. It has to do with corruption within the government and many levels of the government. And how this rich nation is not taking care of it own people, its own environment. There are many problems they can't control and take care of and cleanse. There is much corruption, greed, and control so a few get wealthy and fat. But there'll be cleansing such as this country has never seen before. It will be shocking.
D: "The treasure is placed in a temple by Wastern citizens. Withdrawn therin to a secret place." That means it is something that is unknown to the average person. "The temple to open by hungry bonds. Recaptured, revished, a terrible prey in the midsts." What will happen when the people find out?
N: It seems like many resignations, as if the party in power will fall. This will be unique in its history. It will bring in a temporary government. It will be the first time somebody who ranks in the third or fourth position will be called to take over.
D: Can you see when this will happen?
N: It's very hard to tell but I think it's somewhere within 20 years. I'm seeing something that seems very literal, but this also could be a symbolic cleansing. Whoever this third of fourth party in position is -- whether it be "speaker of the house" or they give a different name -- he takes over command and has to start regaining control of this country so it doesn't fall in the world arena. These are pictures I am being shown. At times it's hazy and I can't really tell if this is symbolic of philosophical cleansing or physical cleansing.

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C7-Q41
The bones of the feet and the hands
locked up, because of the noise the
house is uninhabited for a long time.
Digging in dreams they will be
unearthed, the house healthy and
inhabited without noise.


B: He is saying that this refers to various events in American history, and some events to come. This is one of those quatrains with several interpretations. He says the house refers to the White House. One of the associations with this quatrain, one of the things he was seeing that he did not bring out very strongly, was the events of Watergate. The reason why he didn't bring it out very strongly is that the quatrain is associated with other events that seem to be more major and more important. He thought the people needed to be warned against these, rather than just the events of Watergate. He wanted to give them a hint about Watergate because that would be a bad thing to have happen, but not necessarily avoidable. In secret the presidents of the supposedly free country have been steadily abusing the power to a greater and greater extent. And something needed to happen to shake them up and to shake up the people so they wouldn't be so complacent. But he says it also refers to events in the future. There will be a time in another period of great social unrest, even more major than the social unrest that occurred during the Vietnam era, to where due to a concept he's trying to put across is a combination of two concepts that cannot be explained in one or two words. He first shows the concept of a hung jury, so that a sentence cannot be decided upon in court, but he's applying that concept to an election. A hung election with the nation being the hung jury, and with the vote being very finely divided between two different men for president. The electoral college will not be able to make the decision either because the vote will be so even, so finely divided throughout the entire nation, that it will temporarily freeze the processes of democracy. The hands and feet, the very core of the operation, that is the election, will be locked up, frozen. He say's the people will be clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for and it will cause a great noise across the entire nation. It will be a touchy subject due to the world situation in general at the time. Thus, if one or the other candidate is put in office it would be at the risk of causing another civil war or at least a revolution. He says it will be a time of great social pressure, social unrest, and even more explosive than during the Vietnam era. It will be a while before they, work out a compromise and hold another election to come up with a candidate acceptable to all, one who can be installed in the White House without the threat of all the noise and confusion and such caused by a revolution or a civil war or what-have-you.
D: What does "digging in dreams" mean?
B: He says that in the process of trying to find a solution to the problem there will be a lot of oratory. Bringing up a lot of concepts about patriotism and love of country and such, and bringing up the dreams of the founding fathers of the nation. He says that the man who took the office (Gerald Ford) was in a very delicate position for he had been appointed vice president after the other one had been impeached. Then the president resigned so he became president without ever having received a vote from anybody, except for his constituency in Michigan. He says that particular man (Ford) was in a very uncomfortable position. He did not ask for that to happen to him. He had not aimed for the presidency. The man did well in the circumstances and the way he handled the entire situation on his part caused a lot of good causes for his karma.


C2 Q78
Le grand Neptune du profond
de la mer,
De gent Punique & sang
Gaulois mesle:
Les isles a sang pour
le tardiframer,
Plus lui nuira que
l'occult mal cele.

Great Neptune from the
depths of the sea, of mixed
African race and French
blood, the islands remain
bloody because of the slow
one; it will harm him more
than a badly concealed secret.


B: He says this quatrain refers to events in the Caribbean Islands that will be taking place during the time of troubles. He says that due to the nature of the society there, crooked politics are normal, and during the time of the Anti-Christ they will become even more blatantly crooked. At one point they will dig their own grave with this, and some badly concealed secrets will come to light getting some important people into trouble.

It suddenly dawned on me that "Of mixed African race and French blood" might refer to Haiti.

B: Yes. He says Haiti is one of the Caribbean Islands. He says "the slow one" refers to the American President who will be slow to react to outside aggression. "The islands remaining bloody" refers to the sea battles that will be going on around the islands. Meanwhile the islands are asking for protection from the United States, and the president is slow to react. So in desperation some of the leaders of the islands reveal some of the goings-on that involve the American president, in a way that will get him into trouble as Watergate did Nixon. He says every leader has secrets that could get them into that kind of trouble. It's just a matter of keeping the secrets hidden.
D: I didn't realize they were going to come that close to our continent.
B: He says it won't be forces directly under the Anti-Christ but other aggressive countries taking advantage of the upset of the balance of world powers.

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Thank you for this!
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Thank you for this!
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Did the head of the snake, Obama, know?
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Here's the document: [link to docs.house.gov]

SUMMARY

"Our findings 1) raise concerns with the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), and 2) represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses related to the FISA process."

The FISA warrant application "had to be first certified by the Director [Comey] or Deputy Director [McCabe] of the FBI. It then required the approval of the Attorney General [Holder], Deputy Attorney General (DAG) [Yates - the source of the charges against Gen. Flynn; then Boente; then Rosenstein], or the Senate-confirmed Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division."

The initial FISA warrant was granted on October 21, 2016, and this was then approved three times.

"Then-Director James Comey signed three FISA applications in question on behalf of the FBI, and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe signed one. Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of the DOJ."

Key charge: "material and relevant information was omitted."

1) The dossier, written by Steele on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign, formed an essential part of the FISA application.

a. Neither the application nor the renewals disclose this relationship, even though the DOJ and FBI knew it.

b. The initial application does not name Fusion GPS or Glenn Simpson, who paid Steele on behalf of the DNC, even though it was known to the DOJ. Nor does the application mention the payment to Steele, or that he was working for the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI paid him for the information.

2) The FISA application relied heavily on a Yahoo News article by Michael Isikoff. This story was based on information derived from Steele, and was used to support the validity of the dossier Steele wrote. The application says that Steele did not provide information to Yahoo News.

a. When Steele revealed in Oct 2016 that he had provided information to Isikoff, the FBI fired him.

b. Steele's numerous encounters with the media violated the requirement of confidentiality and reliability as a source for a FISA warrant.

3) Steele maintained contact with DOJ Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Yates and Rosenstein. In September 2016, prior to the application, Steele admitted to Ohr that the dossier was politically motivated. This information was known to the DOJ and FBI, but was not recorded in the FISA application.

a. During this period, Ohr's wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in "the cultivation of opposition research on Trump." This research was then given to the FBI by Ohr, and paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign. This relationship was not disclosed during the application.

4) After the FBI fired Steele, an FBI investigation proved that the dossier was "only minimally corroborated." Yet, in January 2017, Comey briefed President Trump on the dossier and failed to reveal this. He also concealed the anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations behind the dossier. In Dec 2017, McCade testified that the warrant would not have been granted but for the dossier

5) Absolves Papadopoulos of collusion with Page.

ANALYSIS

In short, the DNC/Clinton campaign/Steele/FBI/DOJ colluded to fabricate evidence against Trump, and used this as evidence to illegally obtain a surveillance warrant, and renew it 3 times, that was used to surveil an American citizen, and lied to President-elect Trump regarding the nature of the dossier.

More specifically,
(i) the DOJ and FBI failed to disclose the financial and ideological bias of Steele to the FISA court;
(ii) the DOJ and FBI failed to disclose the role of the DNC and Clinton campaign in funding the dossier to the FISA court;
(iii) the FBI failed to disclose to the FISA court that they were paying Steele for information;
(iv) the legitimacy of the dossier was justified with reference to a Yahoo News article, the content of which was based on information provided by the writer of that very dossier, Steele;
(v) when Steele revealed that he was the source for the Yahoo News article, which undermined the validity of the application, the FBI fired him;
(vi) Steele's role in the article invalidated him as a confidential and reliable source, yet he remained the key source in requests to renew the warrant;
(vii) Steele revealed to the DOJ that he was anti-Trump, and the DOJ (and FBI) hid this information from the FISA court;
(viii) the wife of the implicated DOJ official, Ohr, worked in Fusion GPS and was paid by the DNC and Clinton campaign for anti-Trump information, neither of which facts were reported to the FISA court;
(ix) Comey personally lied to President-elect Trump regarding the validity of the dossier;
(x) the FISA warrant would not have been granted but for these lies.

At the very least, the following individuals should now be subject to criminal investigation:

James Comey
Andrew McCabe
Sally Yates
Dana Boente
Rod Rosenstein
Hillary Clinton
Eric Holder
Bruce Ohr
Nelly Ohr
Christopher Steele
Glenn Simpson
Pete Strzok
Lisa Page
Tom Perez (head of DNC)
Donna Brazile (former acting head of DNC)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (former head of DNC)
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Replace Eric Holder's name with Loretta Lynch. She was the AG at the time. Not that Holder isn't dirty or needs to go down for his crimes.

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There was NOT ONE FUCKING WORD in that memo that threatened national security, nor revealed any sources, nor caused any threat to any allied nation.

The FBI, DOJ and DNC (plus a few republican rhinos) have been objecting to the release of this memo for weeks, saying it was a threat to national security.

They are fucking liars. The only thing threatened in this memo is the revelation that they are traitors.
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There was NOT ONE FUCKING WORD in that memo that threatened national security, nor revealed any sources, nor caused any threat to any allied nation.

The FBI, DOJ and DNC (plus a few republican rhinos) have been objecting to the release of this memo for weeks, saying it was a threat to national security.

They are fucking liars. The only thing threatened in this memo is the revelation that they are traitors.
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Did the head of the snake, Obama, know?
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It's an important question, but unfortunately I don't see anything in the memo that could be used to justify an investigation into him.
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Replace Eric Holder's name with Loretta Lynch. She was the AG at the time. Not that Holder isn't dirty or needs to go down for his crimes.
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My bad. Cheers.
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There was NOT ONE FUCKING WORD in that memo that threatened national security, nor revealed any sources, nor caused any threat to any allied nation.

The FBI, DOJ and DNC (plus a few republican rhinos) have been objecting to the release of this memo for weeks, saying it was a threat to national security.

They are fucking liars. The only thing threatened in this memo is the revelation that they are traitors.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


Yup.

And don't forget, what we see is the tip of the iceberg. It's a summary of a 99-page document Gowdy prepared.
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I was hoping for more.

As far as i can see the memo clearly says one or more of tbe people who put the dossier togetber were clearly biased. It also says others who applied for warrants neglected to be up front about that bias. Because of this a warrant was granted that should not have been granted if the whole picture was known.

What's missing IMHO:
None of this clearly called out as a crime, felony etc. Words used are "improperly" and "failed to disclose".

No one outright accused of sedition or treason. Not saying those things didn't happen, but they are not directly alleged in plain language.

The big, obvious take-away is the dossier cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing by the target of the surveilance i.e. Trump. That's pretty clear.

I don't see anything "sickening" unless one has a physical revulsion to paperwork errors and political shenanigans.

Most people are sickened by brutal crimes and acts against nature. Was expecting that, rather than someone fibbed on a form.
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The memo is a summary of the 1.5 million PAGES of evidence collected so far regarding the illegal spying on Americans. Probably other stuff, too, like pedophila, money laundering, Benghazi, and a host of other crimes we haven't been privy to yet by Hillary and her cabal, et al.
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There was NOT ONE FUCKING WORD in that memo that threatened national security, nor revealed any sources, nor caused any threat to any allied nation.

The FBI, DOJ and DNC (plus a few republican rhinos) have been objecting to the release of this memo for weeks, saying it was a threat to national security.

They are fucking liars. The only thing threatened in this memo is the revelation that they are traitors.
 Quoting: OldWhiteGuy


Yup.

And don't forget, what we see is the tip of the iceberg. It's a summary of a 99-page document Gowdy prepared.
 Quoting: The Original Mind


The memo is a summary of the 1.5 million PAGES of evidence collected against Hillary, et al. All the memo is is a smoking gun to the real evidence.
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Did the head of the snake, Obama, know?
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It's an important question, but unfortunately I don't see anything in the memo that could be used to justify an investigation into him.
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