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Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
To me, this is how Project Bluebeam would start.
(If you do not know what that is, search "Project Bluebeam")

Something relatively "safe" to test on the mass, worldwide population. Something out of this world anyway, so hard for anyone to really debunk it.


Send a Tesla car to space with cameras all over it and some lights and feed back live images to earthlings.



If they fall for this, then they go to the next phase of Project Bluebeam...





Anyway, just tripping on this. Frankly, I have no clue if it is real or fake. Sure was surreal though.

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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
So are you saying the roadster out might be a hologram?
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So are you saying the roadster out might be a hologram?
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Parts of the imagery could be, yes. Could also partly be in a studio setting.


Once again, just some critical thinking here, really not sure if it is fake. But saw some stuff that just seemed not right.
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
it worked most people believe

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indeed its fucking bullshit
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it worked most people believe

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indeed its fucking bullshit
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Fraser Cain of Universe Today too. I mean, someone with some relative smarts...

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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Are those stars whizzing by?

And what was that at 4 minutes?!
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Ah yes project bluebeam, that was supposed to have been implemented in 1983 then again in 1995 then 96, but definitely by 2000.
Give me a break.
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Well, sure seems like some sort of 'sanctioned' project...

That Tesla Roadster should be toast, then ice, repeat, over and over again...


“So when you are directly in the sun, you will actually feel pretty hot–temperatures on the dayside of Earth outside the International Space Station can get into the 100s of degrees Fahrenheit! But then, on the night side, when not in sunlight, it gets really cold, into the negative hundreds of degrees. And once you are at a certain temperature, you aren’t able to effectively transfer it away, so you’ll stay that way–so in space, if you had a hot cup of coffee, it would stay hot for longer than it would on Earth! Yeah…space is the ultimate thermos.

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Well, sure seems like some sort of 'sanctioned' project...

That Tesla Roadster should be toast, then ice, repeat, over and over again...


“So when you are directly in the sun, you will actually feel pretty hot–temperatures on the dayside of Earth outside the International Space Station can get into the 100s of degrees Fahrenheit! But then, on the night side, when not in sunlight, it gets really cold, into the negative hundreds of degrees. And once you are at a certain temperature, you aren’t able to effectively transfer it away, so you’ll stay that way–so in space, if you had a hot cup of coffee, it would stay hot for longer than it would on Earth! Yeah…space is the ultimate thermos.

[link to macaulay.cuny.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Unlike ISS, the roadster was rotated to evenly distribute the heating. ISS doesn't do that, its solar panels must face the sun constantly and so it flies with an attitude that keeps parts of it facing towards or away from the sun for a long portion of the orbit.

Anyway, it's really up there.
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Well, sure seems like some sort of 'sanctioned' project...

That Tesla Roadster should be toast, then ice, repeat, over and over again...


“So when you are directly in the sun, you will actually feel pretty hot–temperatures on the dayside of Earth outside the International Space Station can get into the 100s of degrees Fahrenheit! But then, on the night side, when not in sunlight, it gets really cold, into the negative hundreds of degrees. And once you are at a certain temperature, you aren’t able to effectively transfer it away, so you’ll stay that way–so in space, if you had a hot cup of coffee, it would stay hot for longer than it would on Earth! Yeah…space is the ultimate thermos.

[link to macaulay.cuny.edu (secure)]
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Unlike ISS, the roadster was rotated to evenly distribute the heating. ISS doesn't do that, its solar panels must face the sun constantly and so it flies with an attitude that keeps parts of it facing towards or away from the sun for a long portion of the orbit.

Anyway, it's really up there.
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Thanks. Yes, I believe you. Saw your other vid. There is *something* up there.

So many questions still though. Even Musk admitted they just sent the car, as is, with no special preparations, into space. (see press conference) - So what about low profile tires? How would zero gravity, -200 C and +150 C conditions effect those tires? And the dash board? Etc.

Not sure why, but seems like that are pulling the wool over our eyes. Maybe there are answers to these questions though. Just venting.
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So what about low profile tires? How would zero gravity, -200 C and +150 C conditions effect those tires?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Like I said, it was rotating, the heat would be evenly distributed and prevent it from reaching those extremes, at least while it's under active control in those first few hours.
And the dash board? Etc.
 Quoting: 2012

Yes? You can see bubbling up of the plastic and outgassing leaving residue on the windshield.
We saw cars melting at only 120 F southern states this year.
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I've never seen a car melt at 120 degrees. Unless it was made of chocolate or something. But yes, you can actually see damage occurring to the plastic and screen in the center console area in the first few hours after launch. You can see bubbling in the screen the "don't panic" sticker is on.
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
At various points there are also signs of outgassing by the seals around the windshield, and possibly from the dashboard and its internal components. You can see residue from the outgassing in the lower part of the windshield here, look at the truss structure holding the camera out in front of the car and how it becomes blurry in the lower part:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
The paint and overall structure of the car is not going to be instantly damaged, but there are some obvious signs of the plastic and rubber parts already starting to degrade.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

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So what about low profile tires? How would zero gravity, -200 C and +150 C conditions effect those tires?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Like I said, it was rotating, the heat would be evenly distributed and prevent it from reaching those extremes, at least while it's under active control in those first few hours.
And the dash board? Etc.
 Quoting: 2012

Yes? You can see bubbling up of the plastic and outgassing leaving residue on the windshield.
We saw cars melting at only 120 F southern states this year.
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I've never seen a car melt at 120 degrees. Unless it was made of chocolate or something. But yes, you can actually see damage occurring to the plastic and screen in the center console area in the first few hours after launch. You can see bubbling in the screen the "don't panic" sticker is on.
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
At various points there are also signs of outgassing by the seals around the windshield, and possibly from the dashboard and its internal components. You can see residue from the outgassing in the lower part of the windshield here, look at the truss structure holding the camera out in front of the car and how it becomes blurry in the lower part:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
The paint and overall structure of the car is not going to be instantly damaged, but there are some obvious signs of the plastic and rubber parts already starting to degrade.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

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Rotating, but would that regulate temps to cozy day at the beach? I saw no degrading of the car. But maybe I misses something. Well, for sure!
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Next question Astromut.

What is that object at 4 minutes?

Also, in general, are those stars, planets or satellites that streak by, at times... but not all of the time...
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So what about low profile tires? How would zero gravity, -200 C and +150 C conditions effect those tires?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Like I said, it was rotating, the heat would be evenly distributed and prevent it from reaching those extremes, at least while it's under active control in those first few hours.
And the dash board? Etc.
 Quoting: 2012

Yes? You can see bubbling up of the plastic and outgassing leaving residue on the windshield.
We saw cars melting at only 120 F southern states this year.
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I've never seen a car melt at 120 degrees. Unless it was made of chocolate or something. But yes, you can actually see damage occurring to the plastic and screen in the center console area in the first few hours after launch. You can see bubbling in the screen the "don't panic" sticker is on.
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
At various points there are also signs of outgassing by the seals around the windshield, and possibly from the dashboard and its internal components. You can see residue from the outgassing in the lower part of the windshield here, look at the truss structure holding the camera out in front of the car and how it becomes blurry in the lower part:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
The paint and overall structure of the car is not going to be instantly damaged, but there are some obvious signs of the plastic and rubber parts already starting to degrade.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut



Rotating, but would that regulate temps to cozy day at the beach?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Like I said, rotation distributes the heating so that it doesn't reach those extremes.
I saw no degrading of the car. But maybe I misses something. Well, for sure!
 Quoting: 2012


I just pointed out a couple of visible examples of degradation in the video.
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
It's fkn CGI, looks like PS4 graphics especially inside the car angle
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Next question Astromut.

What is that object at 4 minutes?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

In the video above? The moon.
Also, in general, are those stars, planets or satellites that streak by, at times... but not all of the time...
 Quoting: 2012

Generally it's ice and debris from the second stage. You tend to get a lot of ice formation at the engine of the second stage after it shuts down, and rotating it like they did probably dislodged it frequently. Here's an example of icing from a previous launch:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]

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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
Astroturd please tell us why the whole video looks CGI? Is it the "no atmospheric pressure" cruise
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Astroturd please tell us why the whole video looks CGI? Is it the "no atmospheric pressure" cruise
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Yes. You're used to distance cues and other changes in lighting you get from being inside earth's atmosphere. Those don't exist up there, making things look crisper than your brain expects.
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Re: Starman Car Video from Space... Project Bluebeam?
If accusations that something "looks CGI" constitute proof, then the landing of the boosters must have been CGI as well even though they were independently observed.
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Astroturd please tell us why the whole video looks CGI? Is it the "no atmospheric pressure" cruise
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Yes. You're used to distance cues and other changes in lighting you get from being inside earth's atmosphere. Those don't exist up there, making things look crisper than your brain expects.
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Why you lying the moon landing photos didn't have that ps4 graphics look to it
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Next question Astromut.

What is that object at 4 minutes?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

In the video above? The moon.
Also, in general, are those stars, planets or satellites that streak by, at times... but not all of the time...
 Quoting: 2012

Generally it's ice and debris from the second stage. You tend to get a lot of ice formation at the engine of the second stage after it shuts down, and rotating it like they did probably dislodged it frequently. Here's an example of icing from a previous launch:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Sorry, yes, this video:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

And at 3 minutes it starts.

Is that the moon? (Looks like a half, which it would have been from OUR perspective, maybe...) But, you see a full sized sun reflecting in the dudes helmet... So the moon should be fully illuminated, I would assume... if the moon...

Kinda makes sense the moon, but the lightning I do not get.
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If accusations that something "looks CGI" constitute proof, then the landing of the boosters must have been CGI as well even though they were independently observed.
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That's different nikka, starman is CGI PS4 GRAPHICS
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Astroturd,

Another question

I thought all photos of the earth were all composites since the size of the earth is so large.... so in the starman "live" feed how is the earth visible fully?

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But, you see a full sized sun reflecting in the dudes helmet... So the moon should be fully illuminated, I would assume... if the moon...
 Quoting: 2012Portal


That's not how moon phases work. Just because you see the sun doesn't mean the moon should be full.
[link to image.slidesharecdn.com (secure)]
The car is orbiting earth still, so it will see roughly the same phase you'd see standing on earth, about half full during the launch.
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Next question Astromut.

What is that object at 4 minutes?
 Quoting: 2012Portal

In the video above? The moon.
Also, in general, are those stars, planets or satellites that streak by, at times... but not all of the time...
 Quoting: 2012

Generally it's ice and debris from the second stage. You tend to get a lot of ice formation at the engine of the second stage after it shuts down, and rotating it like they did probably dislodged it frequently. Here's an example of icing from a previous launch:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Wow, that Iridium-4 booster rocket looks EXACTLY the same as the Falcon payload engine! (I think)

Thanks - looks a bit different. Soon after the doors flew wildly off, I noticed some of this. Much later though, still was seeing that at times.

Why can't we see stars then?


Sorry Astro, so many questions!
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Astroturd,

Another question

I thought all photos of the earth were all composites since the size of the earth is so large....
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You thought wrong.
[link to epic.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
That camera captures the full earth multiple times a day. It does not need to pan and stitch to capture the earth.
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Why can't we see stars then?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Short exposure video cameras are designed to properly expose things like the daylit car and earth, but the exposures are far too short to capture the stars.
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Why can't we see stars then?
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Short exposure video cameras are designed to properly expose things like the daylit car and earth, but the exposures are far too short to capture the stars.
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That makes sense. Even on the dark side of the earth, the ambient light is heavy, compared to our evenings out in the country or what have you. Cheers mate.
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Jeez, I admire your patience astromut.
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But, you see a full sized sun reflecting in the dudes helmet... So the moon should be fully illuminated, I would assume... if the moon...
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That's not how moon phases work. Just because you see the sun doesn't mean the moon should be full.
[link to image.slidesharecdn.com (secure)]
The car is orbiting earth still, so it will see roughly the same phase you'd see standing on earth, about half full during the launch.
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Your chart, in that link, is from an earthly perspective. Musks Roadster was floating well outside of our earth. The sun was even fully in the drivers Helmut in the reflection of his Helmut.

See what I mean?

UFO? lol.
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