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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75611015 Germany 02/09/2018 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73011892 United States 02/09/2018 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP completely abandoned Ron Paul. Must of been the Trump effect they talk about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Polar opposites. Right, but the IDEA has always been bigger than the person. Trump serves a purpose for the corruption and exposure, creating a even bigger awakening to come. I think we're setting the stage for Rand after Trump cleans house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76220819 United States 02/09/2018 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The crash is a certainty now. It is not a question of "if" but "when". No one knows exactly when but it will be soon because the whole house of cads is unsustainable. The wealth of this nation has been sucked out by the Chosen Ones. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP completely abandoned Ron Paul. Must of been the Trump effect they talk about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Polar opposites. Right, but the IDEA has always been bigger than the person. Trump serves a purpose for the corruption and exposure, creating a even bigger awakening to come. I think we're setting the stage for Rand after Trump cleans house. I hope your right and it's a ' Trump Card' by the elite to buy just enough time to coop the revolution while police state and collapse are set into motion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP completely abandoned Ron Paul. Must of been the Trump effect they talk about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Polar opposites. Right, but the IDEA has always been bigger than the person. Trump serves a purpose for the corruption and exposure, creating a even bigger awakening to come. I think we're setting the stage for Rand after Trump cleans house. I hope your right and it's a ' Trump Card' by the elite to buy just enough time to coop the revolution while police state and collapse are set into motion. *not |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73011892 United States 02/09/2018 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. Hang on. I get what you're say. We had Rand on the stand so to speak for the last run. Yeah I was hoping this was it. The time was here, but Trump had the strong personality that just swept over. Rand made better inroads in the cycle to be better prepared, looks more prominent than before by taking the stances he has done. I say it's progress to the goal and makes him the stronger candidate next cycle. The democrats don't have snowballs chance in hell after their stazi like tactics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75611015 Germany 02/09/2018 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. He's a loon. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73011892 United States 02/09/2018 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. He's a loon. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] :rere23: |
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IF... User ID: 76231614 United States 02/09/2018 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, just head what Rand was saying on the floor. FUCK HE'S SO RIGHT, because years ago I studied the rate of debt accumulation that was happening nearing 1 million a minute, and it's been slow to ramp up, but the compounding effects are going to start to happen. When he said we're close to the 2 million a minute mark, this means debt is growing faster exponentially. In other words the whole process in speeding up, and shorter intervals that give margin to put it off. That 2 WILL EVENTUALLY go to 4 a minute even faster now, and doubling by the factor of exponents until out of control. It's less and less time to figure out, more needed increases, which leads to default or out right hyperinflation. The rate of spending will tell you how close to hyperinflation spark it is. I thought it would be much less than 20 trillion by the way John Willams was speaking, but not up to 30 trillion total. I think in between 5 trillion more factors in numbers will kick in and it begins and mathematical forces take over at that point. Maybe it can reach 30 trillion, but at some point the factors and exponents are the drivers in debt. Quoting: Rebel4contarian IF this theory is true for fiat currencies as our monetary / economic system, then it is on its face, redundant and obsolete. To place an economic stumbling block capable of crashing an economic system, in the form of debt, is so unjust, it's not even funny. See this is the entire problem. The debt-based fiat monetary system is defunct by design and the ultimate-end of any system based-on and in-debt, is debt. On it's face it's a redundant and ridiculous system -- debt-based. It's rigged to fail, and it will -- just look at the rewards -- debt! One might assume that a credit-based or precious metal-based system would be more adequate and fair... This is just lunacy using a debt-based system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56432837 United States 02/09/2018 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may be true about the debt but you have to take into account that there are things here in the United States that have not been done in almost 50 years. We have to take care of our infrastructure, that is a must. We have to take care of our military in this critically dangerous point in time. This must be done, just because the last 5 or 6 Presidents didn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't need to be taken care of it is critical. Paul talks about the Republicans being hypocrites because they are having to spend so much with the budget but most of it cannot be helped. There is a stark difference between the money spent by Obama and money going to be spent by Trump. Obama used most of the money for social programs and sending it overseas to back up our troops...cough cough..or shall i say the terrorists. He let our military go without so he could feed all the illegal aliens and refugees he was letting into our country at our expense, for more voters for the Democrats. Trump is spending most of this money for things the country sorely needs like military, our decaying infrastructure and our veterans. I mean when all those past Presidents kicked the can down the road ...on these issues...eventually someone would have to take it up...and that happened to be Trump. |
Southern Soldier User ID: 69015348 United States 02/09/2018 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, just head what Rand was saying on the floor. FUCK HE'S SO RIGHT, because years ago I studied the rate of debt accumulation that was happening nearing 1 million a minute, and it's been slow to ramp up, but the compounding effects are going to start to happen. When he said we're close to the 2 million a minute mark, this means debt is growing faster exponentially. In other words the whole process in speeding up, and shorter intervals that give margin to put it off. That 2 WILL EVENTUALLY go to 4 a minute even faster now, and doubling by the factor of exponents until out of control. It's less and less time to figure out, more needed increases, which leads to default or out right hyperinflation. The rate of spending will tell you how close to hyperinflation spark it is. I thought it would be much less than 20 trillion by the way John Willams was speaking, but not up to 30 trillion total. I think in between 5 trillion more factors in numbers will kick in and it begins and mathematical forces take over at that point. Maybe it can reach 30 trillion, but at some point the factors and exponents are the drivers in debt. Quoting: Rebel4contarian Southern Soldier |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/09/2018 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76231912 Germany 02/09/2018 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358 In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. Japan manages much more debt, but then the interest rates are also much lower. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Link me to Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71905526 Ron Paul was erroneously abandoned by glp but it's time revisit and compare where were going now. Rand Paul is similar enough to Ron Paul on core issues. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. Hang on. I get what you're say. We had Rand on the stand so to speak for the last run. Yeah I was hoping this was it. The time was here, but Trump had the strong personality that just swept over. Rand made better inroads in the cycle to be better prepared, looks more prominent than before by taking the stances he has done. I say it's progress to the goal and makes him the stronger candidate next cycle. The democrats don't have snowballs chance in hell after their stazi like tactics. I agree Rand Paul didn't quite have the top dog personality to win..even without Trump running..(def would of beat Jeb)..so hopefully he is seasoned now and took a lesson from Trump. That's kinda why I think Trump was the elites 'Trump Card'. I will change my tune if mass arrests begin. But police state and continuing economic collapse is about all Trump has 'accomplished' in 2 years. It would be perfect to watch Trump arrest the political criminals and then set the stage for a true constitutional government. But increasing our debt now when we're on the precipice is not what I expected of Trump. It appears just as likely Trump brings the collapse before he brings the arrests. Which might be the agenda all along. I believe Rand would be tougher than Trump against the swamp. He could read the law on live tv.and explain why vast amount of politicians are being investigated. Constitution is not something Trump speaks of often and certainly isn't abiding by it as president. I believe Rand Paul would uphold the law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56432837 United States 02/09/2018 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama added $7.91 Trillion dollars to the national debt while in office. What does he have to show for it? A failed health care program and tens of millions of illegal aliens and refugees brought into our country for us to feed,educate and house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/09/2018 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358 In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. Japan manages much more debt, but then the interest rates are also much lower. Manages the debt how exactly? The more debt there is, the more the future is enslaved to servicing what has been consumed in the past. That's debt if you take out a loan for $100,000 to go on a trip around the world then you spend the next 10 years paying off the debt and there is no benefit. If you take that $100,000 and buy power tools you can build a cabin or a boat or something worthwhile. I guarantee you most of the debt the Bank of Japan is issuing is going straight into supporting past debt and wasted spending just like the United States and every other developed economy in the world. You Keynesians will see the day when people break down your door in the middle of the night and take you outside to hang from lampposts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76231912 Germany 02/09/2018 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358 In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. Japan manages much more debt, but then the interest rates are also much lower. Manages the debt how exactly? The more debt there is, the more the future is enslaved to servicing what has been consumed in the past. That's debt if you take out a loan for $100,000 to go on a trip around the world then you spend the next 10 years paying off the debt and there is no benefit. If you take that $100,000 and buy power tools you can build a cabin or a boat or something worthwhile. I guarantee you most of the debt the Bank of Japan is issuing is going straight into supporting past debt and wasted spending just like the United States and every other developed economy in the world. You Keynesians will see the day when people break down your door in the middle of the night and take you outside to hang from lampposts. I am not a Keynsian. It's just a fact, that Japan has much more debt. Interest rates have even been negative (not sure if they are still now). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ron Paul bringing up the WALL without anyone asking about it. It was surreal at the time because i never heard any talk about a wall ever. I always wondered why he used his time to make such a seemingly controversial statement. Then Trump began his WALL campaign and I nearly lost it. GLP really lost touched with Ron Paul. Tragedy I think is likely. Debt. Inflation. Walls. Police State. Global Wars. FED. Trump is opposite Ron Paul. Hang on. I get what you're say. We had Rand on the stand so to speak for the last run. Yeah I was hoping this was it. The time was here, but Trump had the strong personality that just swept over. Rand made better inroads in the cycle to be better prepared, looks more prominent than before by taking the stances he has done. I say it's progress to the goal and makes him the stronger candidate next cycle. The democrats don't have snowballs chance in hell after their stazi like tactics. I agree Rand Paul didn't quite have the top dog personality to win..even without Trump running..(def would of beat Jeb)..so hopefully he is seasoned now and took a lesson from Trump. That's kinda why I think Trump was the elites 'Trump Card'. I will change my tune if mass arrests begin. But police state and continuing economic collapse is about all Trump has 'accomplished' in 2 years. It would be perfect to watch Trump arrest the political criminals and then set the stage for a true constitutional government. But increasing our debt now when we're on the precipice is not what I expected of Trump. It appears just as likely Trump brings the collapse before he brings the arrests. Which might be the agenda all along. I believe Rand would be tougher than Trump against the swamp. He could read the law on live tv.and explain why vast amount of politicians are being investigated. Constitution is not something Trump speaks of often and certainly isn't abiding by it as president. I believe Rand Paul would uphold the law. The swamp battle always seems 50/50. Each side..left or right...seems to walk away from each revelation as if it.bolsters they're side. You'd really expect the president to me able to communicate suck egregious and publicly admitted crimes with the American people in more convincing manner after 2 years. His lack of constitutional principals has always been q concern. And surrounding himself with bankers was very swamp like. Bolstering the police military surplus equipment.goes.against.posse comitatus. Etc. After Ron Paul, Trump seems like Elite Coop. Rand Paul is addressing the real issue of limiting government. Trump is WWF swamp vs Trump. It's not going anywhere and the major issues are continuing to destroy this country. Anyway. Rand Paul is now my hero and Trump better make a move towards constitutional government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70975244 United States 02/09/2018 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358 In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. Japan manages much more debt, but then the interest rates are also much lower. Manages the debt how exactly? The more debt there is, the more the future is enslaved to servicing what has been consumed in the past. That's debt if you take out a loan for $100,000 to go on a trip around the world then you spend the next 10 years paying off the debt and there is no benefit. If you take that $100,000 and buy power tools you can build a cabin or a boat or something worthwhile. I guarantee you most of the debt the Bank of Japan is issuing is going straight into supporting past debt and wasted spending just like the United States and every other developed economy in the world. You Keynesians will see the day when people break down your door in the middle of the night and take you outside to hang from lampposts. Lol Damn! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may be true about the debt but you have to take into account that there are things here in the United States that have not been done in almost 50 years. Quoting: Chosen1too We have to take care of our infrastructure, that is a must. We have to take care of our military in this critically dangerous point in time. This must be done, just because the last 5 or 6 Presidents didn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't need to be taken care of it is critical. Paul talks about the Republicans being hypocrites because they are having to spend so much with the budget but most of it cannot be helped. There is a stark difference between the money spent by Obama and money going to be spent by Trump. Obama used most of the money for social programs and sending it overseas to back up our troops...cough cough..or shall i say the terrorists. He let our military go without so he could feed all the illegal aliens and refugees he was letting into our country at our expense, for more voters for the Democrats. Trump is spending most of this money for things the country sorely needs like military, our decaying infrastructure and our veterans. I mean when all those past Presidents kicked the can down the road ...on these issues...eventually someone would have to take it up...and that happened to be Trump. Congress spends our money. Not Trump. Watch Rand Paul's speech. Democrates got everything they wanted and so did the Republicans. No one knows what they spent it in because no one read it. Not even Trump. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71905526 United States 02/09/2018 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may be true about the debt but you have to take into account that there are things here in the United States that have not been done in almost 50 years. Quoting: Chosen1too We have to take care of our infrastructure, that is a must. We have to take care of our military in this critically dangerous point in time. This must be done, just because the last 5 or 6 Presidents didn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't need to be taken care of it is critical. Paul talks about the Republicans being hypocrites because they are having to spend so much with the budget but most of it cannot be helped. There is a stark difference between the money spent by Obama and money going to be spent by Trump. Obama used most of the money for social programs and sending it overseas to back up our troops...cough cough..or shall i say the terrorists. He let our military go without so he could feed all the illegal aliens and refugees he was letting into our country at our expense, for more voters for the Democrats. Trump is spending most of this money for things the country sorely needs like military, our decaying infrastructure and our veterans. I mean when all those past Presidents kicked the can down the road ...on these issues...eventually someone would have to take it up...and that happened to be Trump. Congress spends our money. Not Trump. Watch Rand Paul's speech. Democrates got everything they wanted and so did the Republicans. No one knows what they spent it in because no one read it. Not even Trump. Aka..2 years in and NOTHING has changed. Rand Paul is trying to make REAL SOLUTIONS a talking point. Maybe Trump will promote Constitutional Goverment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/09/2018 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm yah the government has consistently increased the national debt around 8.5% a year, every year since 1932. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358 In the beginning it doesn't seem that bad, but as all exponential functions do, it begins to increase more rapidly until it finally reaches an asymptotic vertical line. We are very close to the point where the debt goes asymptotic. Japan manages much more debt, but then the interest rates are also much lower. Manages the debt how exactly? The more debt there is, the more the future is enslaved to servicing what has been consumed in the past. That's debt if you take out a loan for $100,000 to go on a trip around the world then you spend the next 10 years paying off the debt and there is no benefit. If you take that $100,000 and buy power tools you can build a cabin or a boat or something worthwhile. I guarantee you most of the debt the Bank of Japan is issuing is going straight into supporting past debt and wasted spending just like the United States and every other developed economy in the world. You Keynesians will see the day when people break down your door in the middle of the night and take you outside to hang from lampposts. I am not a Keynsian. It's just a fact, that Japan has much more debt. Interest rates have even been negative (not sure if they are still now). Sure seems like you are a keynesian defending the debt levels. Your argument is, it has worked to this point so then I am assume it would work forever. There are other financial games they are playing to support their grotesque debt load, and their society is highly conformist unlike western societies. The people are paying the price for their leaders malfeasance and they are essentially living through a depression. |