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Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.

 
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Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
"Everybody lies."
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But but but I seen a YouTubes video! They is sprayin' us! Dane Wiggingtons says so!!!
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You're a fool. Use your eyes
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You're a fool. Use your eyes
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I see contrails.

Do you need some kind of special super-duper chemtard vision to see these imaginary chemtrails?
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You're a fool. Use your eyes
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Op is obviously blind.
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Op is absolutely right. The people who fall prey to the chemtrail hoax don't have a sufficient understanding of the reality of these things, to be able to come to a rational and true conclusion. Thereby they are hurting themselves and others by succumbing to an irrational fear and paranoia.

There are plenty of things that people should be concerned about in terms of health and government corruption. The chemrail hoax perpetuated by ignorance is taking the focus away from things that actually matter. And that is what's terrible about the liars who try to mislead others into believing the lie of chemtrails.
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OP is YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!
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I live in the land of fruits and nuts aka Calif and the military spray us almost everyday. Used to be an airline pilot so I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Also chemtrails contain aluminum, barium and strontium which end up in our bodies and soil. They use chemtrails and HAARP to redirect low pressure weather fronts that are either diverted up north or destroyed before they reach land. That's the main reason we are in a drought so follow the money. Been flying jets since the late fifties so don't give me any garbage we had chemtrails back then and then only recently they started appearing a few years back. Keep drinking the flouride and take deep breaths because the NWO is depending on you.
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I live in the land of fruits and nuts aka Calif and the military spray us almost everyday. Used to be an airline pilot so I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Also chemtrails contain aluminum, barium and strontium which end up in our bodies and soil. They use chemtrails and HAARP to redirect low pressure weather fronts that are either diverted up north or destroyed before they reach land. That's the main reason we are in a drought so follow the money. Been flying jets since the late fifties so don't give me any garbage we had chemtrails back then and then only recently they started appearing a few years back. Keep drinking the flouride and take deep breaths because the NWO is depending on you.
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Could persistent contrails/water vapor aid in warming the planet G.House?
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Engineering the Climate :


Solar Radiation Management










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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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Aerosol-Based Climate Engineering



This introduces climate engineering as a range of techniques aiming to alleviate the impacts of climate change.

Two aerosol-based techniques,
known as stratospheric aerosol injection
and marine cloud brightening,
are discussed in terms of their potential, side effects, and shortcomings.

The climate’s response to aerosol-based climate engineering is assessed
using the concepts of climate feedbacks and rapid adjustments.

This ends on the issue of the termination and other risks associated to such techniques.







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chempark We've not had the displeasure of your company for quite a while and didn't miss you a bit.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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You're right. Persistent contrails are the cause of global warming however. Not co2.
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Stratospheric Aerosol Particles and Solar-Radiation Management



The deliberate injection of particles into the stratosphere
is a geoengineering scheme to mitigate the global warming aspect of climate change.


Injected particles scatter solar radiation back to space
and thus reduce the radiative balance of Earth.


Previous studies investigating this scheme have focused primarily on sulphuric acid particles
to mimic volcanic injections of stratospheric aerosol.


However, the composition and size of volcanic sulphuric acid particles
are far from optimal for scattering solar radiation.


We show that aerosols with other compositions, such as minerals,
could be used to dramatically increase the amount of light scatter achieved on a per mass basis,
thereby reducing the particle mass required for injection.


The chemical consequences of injecting such particles into the stratosphere
are discussed with regard to the fate of the ozone layer.







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I live in the land of fruits and nuts aka Calif and the military spray us almost everyday. Used to be an airline pilot so I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Also chemtrails contain aluminum, barium and strontium which end up in our bodies and soil. They use chemtrails and HAARP to redirect low pressure weather fronts that are either diverted up north or destroyed before they reach land. That's the main reason we are in a drought so follow the money. Been flying jets since the late fifties so don't give me any garbage we had chemtrails back then and then only recently they started appearing a few years back. Keep drinking the flouride and take deep breaths because the NWO is depending on you.
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Why do you feel the need to lie to impress your fellow chemtards?
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OP proves, that denial - is NOT a river in Egypt


it is one thing to fool others, but to fool yourself is self-retarding


give it up, there are comtrail AND chemtrails, and anyone who isn't blind - can tell the difference
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give it up, there are comtrail AND chemtrails, and anyone who isn't blind - can tell the difference
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Prove it.
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At best, OP is a moron, at worst, a disinformation shill.
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I think he is referring to water on his brain. Never go FULL RETARD.
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At best, OP is a moron, at worst, a disinformation shill.
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Where did you learn about contrails?
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At best, OP is a moron, at worst, a disinformation shill.
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Where did you learn about contrails?
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University of YouTube.
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China has cloud seeding all the time

Why can't we?

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Are we too stupid to cloud seed?
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I live in the land of fruits and nuts aka Calif and the military spray us almost everyday. Used to be an airline pilot so I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Also chemtrails contain aluminum, barium and strontium which end up in our bodies and soil. They use chemtrails and HAARP to redirect low pressure weather fronts that are either diverted up north or destroyed before they reach land. That's the main reason we are in a drought so follow the money. Been flying jets since the late fifties so don't give me any garbage we had chemtrails back then and then only recently they started appearing a few years back. Keep drinking the flouride and take deep breaths because the NWO is depending on you.
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Very well put!
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You're right. Persistent contrails are the cause of global warming however. Not co2.
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errrr...did you really type that? It's well established that CO2 is very much a greenhouse gas, and we generate a lot of it. Fortunately, the flora love it...
Still no samples from the alleged "chemtrails"? We've been waiting...for many years...
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we don't get persistent contrailsd very often on CO, anyone up on why that is? I'm figuring the drier atmosphere...
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The most recent episode of X files addressed chemtrails.

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Yer a fucking idiot.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


OP just went full retard.
And I know this because my father was in aviation all my life. all his life, starting in WWII. Then the FAA.

I have flown with him for decades and studied weather.
And know all about what contrails are.

There is NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS PERSISTANT CONTRAILS, however there is such thing as persistant foolery, and this OP is what you are.
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G House, I've been coming here since 2000 and I've read a lot of your posts, more on that in a moment.

I'm a farmer, never went to college, couldn't begin to explain to you the properties of elements dispersed in the atmosphere or any of the technical issues in how these kinds of things would be done, but I know a couple of things.

Clouds are part of weather. Planes are emitting something that makes clouds and these clouds alter the weather.

There's no argument, no discussion. You either accept that man is intentionally and willfully altering the weather or you can lie about it. You alter the weather enough and you affect the climate. Droughts, severe storms, long term temperature fluctuations, they happen as part of the normal course of a planet floating in space and really, there's not a whole lot we can do to change that aspect of our interstellar experience. There is something we can do about the things we do to the planet. Responsible stewardship of resources, conservation, deliberate carbon sequestration, reforestation, etc. I don't care who is on those planes, I don't give a shit where they are going or what is coming out of the back of them- even if it is just water vapor. If we care at all about our weather and or climate we need to stop with the equivocation, the justifications and the excuses and admit that jet aircraft are the SINGLE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR to long term daily weather change which leads to climate change. Now if we decide that going to Cambodia to diddle pre-teens or flying off to see Grandma for Christmas or to close some BS deal on widgets in China is more important than the effect of weather on every other living thing on Earth then I guess we'll all have to live with it, but it should definitely be something we get a say in and that's never happened. People can comment until the end of days that chemtrails are just contrails and frankly it's not going to change any minds one way or the other, but what no one is ever going to be able to deny is that a normal sunny day is routinely turned into an overcast cloudy gray one by whatever it is that comes out of the back of those jets and that just sucks.

So, Mr. House.

I know a little bit about people too. I watch them and observe their behaviors and worry a whole lot less about what they say then I do about how they act. You are a squirrely guy and you've always had a very off-putting style of commentary. I'd guess that you're in the high 120's or above in IQ, probably late forties to mid-fifties, definitely White, upper middle class and either a government or academic professional. You also have a touch of the sperg going on. You're not very good looking so you're extremely defensive and use your superior intelligence to lash out at people when they don't see things you want them to. I know some people think you're a paid disinformation type, but I think you're a true believer and you'd do this for free. I also think you don't really know what that stuff is coming out of all those planes although I am more than certain that most of it is water vapor- doing just as much damage to our normally occurring weather nonetheless. I think you've probably thrown so much of your life and energy into staking out a particular position that even if definitive proof came out that undermined your worldview you'd never accept it. You can't. It's not who you are.

I also notice that you rarely if ever comment on any other topic, which is really odd. Very few people are that focused that they cannot find something else that grabs their interest at least once in a while and while I am certain I haven't seen every single post you've made, I can't remember you ever making a comment about any other topic.

So that's my take.





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