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Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.

 
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China has cloud seeding all the time

Why can't we?

[link to qz.com (secure)]

Are we too stupid to cloud seed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52739063


The geoengineering project is not cloud seeding.
It is injection of chemical on a nano scale into the atmosphere. Chemical reaction is obvious as they bubble.
The addition of weaponized virus and bacteria contaminants
are obvious in the current population suffering and dying
from a flu virus that is not communicable to humans from
source under ordinary vector circumstance.

What we are is too stupid to know when war is being waged against us by the globalist elite.
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At best, OP is a moron, at worst, a disinformation shill.
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paycheckkitty It's sad really.
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China has cloud seeding all the time

Why can't we?

[link to qz.com (secure)]

Are we too stupid to cloud seed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52739063


The geoengineering project is not cloud seeding.
It is injection of chemical on a nano scale into the atmosphere. Chemical reaction is obvious as they bubble.
The addition of weaponized virus and bacteria contaminants
are obvious in the current population suffering and dying
from a flu virus that is not communicable to humans from
source under ordinary vector circumstance.

What we are is too stupid to know when war is being waged against us by the globalist elite.
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What chemical? Nano scale? Please explain. Bubble? Any evidence of these viruses and bacterias collected from the trails? Explain in detail the "ordinary vectors" the flu virus normally uses, and why is this strain is not subject to them...you seem to know a lot about this, please continue...
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon."

That's the same shit that Idol used to say. She was full of it too. She's gone, yet you're here.
Somehow large planes manage to carry enough fuel to go from coast to coast. Gosh, how is that possible? Imagine that fuel contained a % of nano sized particles of alum, etc. Would it not be sprayed out in the exhaust? What would be the result?
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You're right. Persistent contrails are the cause of global warming however. Not co2.
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errrr...did you really type that? It's well established that CO2 is very much a greenhouse gas, and we generate a lot of it. Fortunately, the flora love it...
Still no samples from the alleged "chemtrails"? We've been waiting...for many years...
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I'm ready to go. Get your airplane gassed up and call me.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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you desperately need to believe this for some reason, why is that?
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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you desperately need to believe this for some reason, why is that?
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Because when that is taken away he will need to realize that his whole foundation is built on sand.
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OP is YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!
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No.

OP is sixty two years old.

I remember seeing a persistent contrail back in 1960 that went from horizon to horizon, and having it explained to me what it was. Lived south of Metro Airport in the Detroit area at the time. I think the National Guard was flying F-94 Starfires out of there at the time. They also at one time had a Nike Zeus rocket base there.

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Could persistent contrails/water vapor aid in warming the planet G.House?
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Daytime persistent contrails have a cooling effect. Nighttime they have a warming effect.

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64yo here...I remember the propliners...they contrailed too...
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


OP just went full retard.
And I know this because my father was in aviation all my life. all his life, starting in WWII. Then the FAA.

I have flown with him for decades and studied weather.
And know all about what contrails are.

There is NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS PERSISTANT CONTRAILS, however there is such thing as persistant foolery, and this OP is what you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76234551


Really?

Then your father wasn't paying attention or wasn't an aviator in WW II.

You see persistent contrails were a huge problem in the daylight bombing campaigns over Germany. Many, many accounts of the route into targets being inundated by said trails making it impossible to maintain close formation on the way out. They had to take different routes fly in clear air. It's well documented in the mission debriefings.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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Great post! 5***** pine request!!
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All this BS the one poster is spreading about aerosols and nano particles and what not?

You people talk like aerosols are unnatural and a bad thing.

Truth is most aerosols are natural and ESSENTIAL. They are what makes rain happen.
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China has cloud seeding all the time

Why can't we?

[link to qz.com (secure)]

Are we too stupid to cloud seed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52739063


The geoengineering project is not cloud seeding.
It is injection of chemical on a nano scale into the atmosphere. Chemical reaction is obvious as they bubble.
The addition of weaponized virus and bacteria contaminants
are obvious in the current population suffering and dying
from a flu virus that is not communicable to humans from
source under ordinary vector circumstance.

What we are is too stupid to know when war is being waged against us by the globalist elite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76234551


Impressive. Another chemtard using big sciencey words that he doesn't even understand.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House



Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon."

That's the same shit that Idol used to say. She was full of it too. She's gone, yet you're here.
Somehow large planes manage to carry enough fuel to go from coast to coast. Gosh, how is that possible? Imagine that fuel contained a % of nano sized particles of alum, etc. Would it not be sprayed out in the exhaust? What would be the result?
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


You probably wouldn't be able to see it.

Or worst case example if it was something like charcoal would be like the trail a B-52 makes if it isn't making a contrail.

Again, the compound that makes fluffy white stuff is H2O. And again most of the contrail is formed by moisture already in the air.
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For those who don't know GHouse is the resident troll specializing in Chemtrails/

He has been at it since 2010. Long term bonu$e$
where do i apply? i want to quit antiFa as they haven;'t paid me yet
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


Cool

Don't you just love it when you are walking in the woods and the water vapor you exhale forms smokey lines, so that after a long day of hiking you can see exactly where you have been and how far you have walked.

Fucking awesome.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


Cool

Don't you just love it when you are walking in the woods and the water vapor you exhale forms smokey lines, so that after a long day of hiking you can see exactly where you have been and how far you have walked.

Fucking awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76226107


My point being that contrails and the water vapor you exhale forms because of the temperature differential that is created. Your body heat and with airplanes the engines causes the vapor to form.

As the source of the temperature differential is small and moving the surrounding cold air cools it down again AND IT DISAPPEARS.

If it lingers then it is not natural. NOT FROM A SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE WHEN THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL THAT CAUSED IT DISAPPEARS SURROUNDING AIR COOLS IT DOWN.

IT DISAPPEARS, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE.
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17 threads in 2 years. bravo for the restraint shown.

still wonder what this man said about aerosolizing?



Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat, in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.
[link to www.cia.gov (secure)]

course that link does throw off some vibes...so...

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because they do not want the people to know, this is the modern day gas chamber using aircraft, that disperse, Aluminum, Lead,barium,strontium, manganese, all cause health issues, to help Pharma make money while accomplishing agenda 21, now you know how lead made its way into the drinking water, because it sure did not walk itself there. this is brought to you by the pedophile Globalists and their agenda. my opinions on this matter
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


Cool

Don't you just love it when you are walking in the woods and the water vapor you exhale forms smokey lines, so that after a long day of hiking you can see exactly where you have been and how far you have walked.

Fucking awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76226107


My point being that contrails and the water vapor you exhale forms because of the temperature differential that is created. Your body heat and with airplanes the engines causes the vapor to form.

As the source of the temperature differential is small and moving the surrounding cold air cools it down again AND IT DISAPPEARS.

If it lingers then it is not natural. NOT FROM A SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE WHEN THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL THAT CAUSED IT DISAPPEARS SURROUNDING AIR COOLS IT DOWN.

IT DISAPPEARS, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76226107


Wow! Basically you've proved clouds can't exist either.

Clearly you have no understanding of what the process actually is.

Heat has little to do with it Rapid compression and then rapid decompression are the cause combined with supersaturated air and very cold temperatures. Also the aerosols that the ice crystals form around.

FACT! You don't even need an engine to make a trail. The fuselage and wing structures alone can form a trail.

You can see trails formed such as these at low altitudes by high performance maneuvers made by fighter aircraft or even off the fancy new wing tips now used on jetliners.

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because they do not want the people to know, this is the modern day gas chamber using aircraft, that disperse, Aluminum, Lead,barium,strontium, manganese, all cause health issues, to help Pharma make money while accomplishing agenda 21, now you know how lead made its way into the drinking water, because it sure did not walk itself there. this is brought to you by the pedophile Globalists and their agenda. my opinions on this matter
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It is so strange that chemtards completely forget about industrial pollution, mining processes, pest and weed control spraying, etc. It can only come from a nafarious government plot spraying you with airliners.

You're as bad as flat Earthers.
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H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House


That all the very substances appearing in all the geoengineering patents are raining from the skies worldwide.... coincidence?

The aluminum breathed in and settled in past your blood brain barrier to your brain is only possible with nano sized bits to get there. I guess the Alzheimer's they are giving us all is working?

There are heavy metals raining from the skies, and viruses, worldwide.

And all the shills want to talk about is water vapor.
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because they do not want the people to know, this is the modern day gas chamber using aircraft, that disperse, Aluminum, Lead,barium,strontium, manganese, all cause health issues, to help Pharma make money while accomplishing agenda 21, now you know how lead made its way into the drinking water, because it sure did not walk itself there. this is brought to you by the pedophile Globalists and their agenda. my opinions on this matter
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It is so strange that chemtards completely forget about industrial pollution, mining processes, pest and weed control spraying, etc. It can only come from a nafarious government plot spraying you with airliners.

You're as bad as flat Earthers.
 Quoting: G. House


Watching the patterns of shills over the years one can see how once a truth is out they move on.

So the most shilled topics are Flat Earth and Geoengineering.

Hence the last two great truths are still hidden in plain sight.
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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
wtf was that load of rubbish..that was terrible shilling, was you trying to make yourself sound smart? you completely failed if thats your intention.

i didnt see 1 statement of fact in your pathetic monologue
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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
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Dumping large amounts of fuel, or dumping water on a fire, what a intentionally deceptive way to frame the conversation.
Crop dusting is a more accurate anology, or sky writing.

Condensation contrails you say? So on a crystal clear day, they just shut down all air traffic? Or odd on chemtrail days you can watch other jets leave regular contrails which are only visible for seconds and dont turn into a fog.

Right
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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
whats funny is the government has already admitted to it, and still you are in denial lolz there's no hope for this kind of idiots..you are arguing against what is a commonly known fact, a fact supported by scientist, pilots themselves, the companies promoting and doing it, the governments allowing it, the millions who bear witness to it..and yet theres always some idiots who still wanna deny something they can see for themselves(if they could venture out of their basements for more then 2minutes). the only 1's denying chemtrails are the shills themselves lol even their slavemasters admitted to it already
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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
G House, I've been coming here since 2000 and I've read a lot of your posts, more on that in a moment.

I'm a farmer, never went to college, couldn't begin to explain to you the properties of elements dispersed in the atmosphere or any of the technical issues in how these kinds of things would be done, but I know a couple of things.

Clouds are part of weather. Planes are emitting something that makes clouds and these clouds alter the weather.

There's no argument, no discussion. You either accept that man is intentionally and willfully altering the weather or you can lie about it. You alter the weather enough and you affect the climate. Droughts, severe storms, long term temperature fluctuations, they happen as part of the normal course of a planet floating in space and really, there's not a whole lot we can do to change that aspect of our interstellar experience. There is something we can do about the things we do to the planet. Responsible stewardship of resources, conservation, deliberate carbon sequestration, reforestation, etc. I don't care who is on those planes, I don't give a shit where they are going or what is coming out of the back of them- even if it is just water vapor. If we care at all about our weather and or climate we need to stop with the equivocation, the justifications and the excuses and admit that jet aircraft are the SINGLE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR to long term daily weather change which leads to climate change. Now if we decide that going to Cambodia to diddle pre-teens or flying off to see Grandma for Christmas or to close some BS deal on widgets in China is more important than the effect of weather on every other living thing on Earth then I guess we'll all have to live with it, but it should definitely be something we get a say in and that's never happened. People can comment until the end of days that chemtrails are just contrails and frankly it's not going to change any minds one way or the other, but what no one is ever going to be able to deny is that a normal sunny day is routinely turned into an overcast cloudy gray one by whatever it is that comes out of the back of those jets and that just sucks.

So, Mr. House.

I know a little bit about people too. I watch them and observe their behaviors and worry a whole lot less about what they say then I do about how they act. You are a squirrely guy and you've always had a very off-putting style of commentary. I'd guess that you're in the high 120's or above in IQ, probably late forties to mid-fifties, definitely White, upper middle class and either a government or academic professional. You also have a touch of the sperg going on. You're not very good looking so you're extremely defensive and use your superior intelligence to lash out at people when they don't see things you want them to. I know some people think you're a paid disinformation type, but I think you're a true believer and you'd do this for free. I also think you don't really know what that stuff is coming out of all those planes although I am more than certain that most of it is water vapor- doing just as much damage to our normally occurring weather nonetheless. I think you've probably thrown so much of your life and energy into staking out a particular position that even if definitive proof came out that undermined your worldview you'd never accept it. You can't. It's not who you are.

I also notice that you rarely if ever comment on any other topic, which is really odd. Very few people are that focused that they cannot find something else that grabs their interest at least once in a while and while I am certain I haven't seen every single post you've made, I can't remember you ever making a comment about any other topic.

So that's my take.
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Those are some mad profiling skilz you rolled up on G Hizzle yo.
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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
G House, I've been coming here since 2000 and I've read a lot of your posts, more on that in a moment.

I'm a farmer, never went to college, couldn't begin to explain to you the properties of elements dispersed in the atmosphere or any of the technical issues in how these kinds of things would be done, but I know a couple of things.

Clouds are part of weather. Planes are emitting something that makes clouds and these clouds alter the weather.

There's no argument, no discussion. You either accept that man is intentionally and willfully altering the weather or you can lie about it. You alter the weather enough and you affect the climate. Droughts, severe storms, long term temperature fluctuations, they happen as part of the normal course of a planet floating in space and really, there's not a whole lot we can do to change that aspect of our interstellar experience. There is something we can do about the things we do to the planet. Responsible stewardship of resources, conservation, deliberate carbon sequestration, reforestation, etc. I don't care who is on those planes, I don't give a shit where they are going or what is coming out of the back of them- even if it is just water vapor. If we care at all about our weather and or climate we need to stop with the equivocation, the justifications and the excuses and admit that jet aircraft are the SINGLE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR to long term daily weather change which leads to climate change. Now if we decide that going to Cambodia to diddle pre-teens or flying off to see Grandma for Christmas or to close some BS deal on widgets in China is more important than the effect of weather on every other living thing on Earth then I guess we'll all have to live with it, but it should definitely be something we get a say in and that's never happened. People can comment until the end of days that chemtrails are just contrails and frankly it's not going to change any minds one way or the other, but what no one is ever going to be able to deny is that a normal sunny day is routinely turned into an overcast cloudy gray one by whatever it is that comes out of the back of those jets and that just sucks.

So, Mr. House.

I know a little bit about people too. I watch them and observe their behaviors and worry a whole lot less about what they say then I do about how they act. You are a squirrely guy and you've always had a very off-putting style of commentary. I'd guess that you're in the high 120's or above in IQ, probably late forties to mid-fifties, definitely White, upper middle class and either a government or academic professional. You also have a touch of the sperg going on. You're not very good looking so you're extremely defensive and use your superior intelligence to lash out at people when they don't see things you want them to. I know some people think you're a paid disinformation type, but I think you're a true believer and you'd do this for free. I also think you don't really know what that stuff is coming out of all those planes although I am more than certain that most of it is water vapor- doing just as much damage to our normally occurring weather nonetheless. I think you've probably thrown so much of your life and energy into staking out a particular position that even if definitive proof came out that undermined your worldview you'd never accept it. You can't. It's not who you are.

I also notice that you rarely if ever comment on any other topic, which is really odd. Very few people are that focused that they cannot find something else that grabs their interest at least once in a while and while I am certain I haven't seen every single post you've made, I can't remember you ever making a comment about any other topic.

So that's my take.
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Well if you've been paying attention you would know I've never said that the huge increase in contrails (due to the huge increase in aircraft flights) does not affect the weather to some extent. Never said that.

As far as your surmises about me? You're pretty off base on most of it.

I have a very deep background in things aviation. I do know what I am talking about. I have found for the most part it is rather pointless to even argue with people here at GLP about the matter. They are clearly ignorant on the atmospheric science behind this and aviation history in general.

Let me tell you how this started with me. Back in the 70's I was doing a lot of research on the high altitude bombing campaigns over Germany. As I mentioned before the mission debriefings as a matter of course always mentioned if persistent contrails and persistent contrails that spread out into clouds were being formed.

So when I first started reading GLP around 2000 or so I knew the premise chemtards were spouting was outright fiction. Sort of pissed me off. Again they are basically as bad as flat Earthers.

I do by the way comment on other topics quite frequently.

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Re: Why the so-called CHEMTRAIL hoax is just that!! I'll try to put it as simply as I can.
H2O

Water.

It has very distinctive properties that are unusual in most chemicals.

That's why it forms clouds in the sky.

You see under the right conditions persistent contrails that go from horizon to horizon for and sometimes spread out into clouds. To make one takes a mind boggling amount of material. Truth is the concept that so-called chemtrails are "sprayed" is patently ridiculous.

Have you seen videos of fire fighting aircraft releasing their loads? How about aircraft that dump their entire load of fuel? The dump takes mere seconds and then that's all she wrote. Simply put, these aircraft just cannot carry the amount of material to "spray" so-called chemtrails from horizon to horizon.

Another Fact is that fine particulate aluminum, barium, whatever, would not appear as dense contrails if released at altitude.

Simply put those trails you see? They are made up of water that has changed state. Water that was already in the air as the aircraft passed through it. Sure a little of it is from the fuel being burned and some carbon aerosol is also created that is a catalyst that makes the other moisture in the supersaturated air change state.

Anyway, that is the basic process that is happening.

Persistent contrails were first seen during the last year of World War One. They have been seen, documented and discussed ever since then.
 Quoting: G. House




Oh look... It's Shill House again... lol


Look, we've gone over this over and over and over again.

Tody's "Contrails" are not the Contrails of old.


But I am happy you got a raise from $3.50 to $3,75, for your persistence.





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