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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
So Professor Darwin, how does that theory thingy go again?
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Why do you have genes for a tail?
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Viruses are survivors. They’ll be here long after humanity has gone. I guess that adapt and mutate thingy works after all.

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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
So Professor Darwin, how does that theory thingy go again?
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Hey ...When God created this world he made rules, like gravity and evolution. YOu don't believe in gravity? Step off that roof! Evolution is observable and obvious, although there's pretty good evidence manklind was also genetically modified by "alien" groups as well. And hey, God made them too. Don't limit God with your small vision. And while we are at it, God has no sex..pure spirit and love and bliss, so forgive my use of male pronoun.

Ok, you are going to quote Bible? A good history book plus a bunch of crafted tales by Council of Nicea etc. Read history.It is not proof of anything, anymore than "The Night Before Christmas" is proof of Santa Clause. The only possible proof is via your direct experiences. That constitutes knowledge. Many humans have had such experiences.

You needn't fret though. It doesn't matter really. What matters is how you live now. Lean as much as possible and apply it in the most positive way you can. That is enough. Be grateful. And stop being rude, as in your quote above.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Why do you have genes for a tail?
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Because genes for a tail are the living proof of the process evolution and living proof of the counter process of devolution at work!
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
So Professor Darwin, how does that theory thingy go again?
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Hey ...When God created this world he made rules, like gravity and evolution. YOu don't believe in gravity? Step off that roof! Evolution is observable and obvious, although there's pretty good evidence manklind was also genetically modified by "alien" groups as well. And hey, God made them too. Don't limit God with your small vision. And while we are at it, God has no sex..pure spirit and love and bliss, so forgive my use of male pronoun.

Ok, you are going to quote Bible? A good history book plus a bunch of crafted tales by Council of Nicea etc. Read history.It is not proof of anything, anymore than "The Night Before Christmas" is proof of Santa Clause. The only possible proof is via your direct experiences. That constitutes knowledge. Many humans have had such experiences.

You needn't fret though. It doesn't matter really. What matters is how you live now. Lean as much as possible and apply it in the most positive way you can. That is enough. Be grateful. And stop being rude, as in your quote above.
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Your attitude is nice, but your reasoning is flawed

You believe a god created everything and then on top of it all, agod added evolution theory (a random chance theory leading to 99% death of any organism)? If the outcome of an organism is known, why not just create one or a pair in the first place and skip the evotard part?
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Mutation does not mostly cause deaths. The benifical and harmful mutation ratios are somewhat similar, and the vast majority of mutations are neutral and have no effect.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
So Professor Darwin, how does that theory thingy go again?
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Hey ...When God created this world he made rules, like gravity and evolution. YOu don't believe in gravity? Step off that roof! Evolution is observable and obvious, although there's pretty good evidence manklind was also genetically modified by "alien" groups as well. And hey, God made them too. Don't limit God with your small vision. And while we are at it, God has no sex..pure spirit and love and bliss, so forgive my use of male pronoun.

Ok, you are going to quote Bible? A good history book plus a bunch of crafted tales by Council of Nicea etc. Read history.It is not proof of anything, anymore than "The Night Before Christmas" is proof of Santa Clause. The only possible proof is via your direct experiences. That constitutes knowledge. Many humans have had such experiences.

You needn't fret though. It doesn't matter really. What matters is how you live now. Lean as much as possible and apply it in the most positive way you can. That is enough. Be grateful. And stop being rude, as in your quote above.
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If that were true we would not have more than half the planets population saying it is all BS. Even a large percentage of biologists end up disbelieving evolution.

Show me a current example of a species giving birth to something it is not compatible with.

Also the eye, do you honestly think it happened by chance. The eyeball, optic nerve and the brain functions to determine the images it receives. Because if it did not happen all at once it would not have been an advantage to the lifeform and would have died out. Those soft bits leading to the brain would be a major disadvantage without working sight.

The first life was asexual. Did the first male and female evolve at the same time in the same place?

Do you know how complex proteins are?, how did all these different proteins get made by chance in the same place to create that first cell, not even starting with the DNA.

Its a lie. Its ok to be wrong, I change my opinions as I go through life. I know I was not right the first time. Its liberating to change such opinions. Mine may change again. I dont care if Im right or wrong, I just want to know the truth. It is not a competition.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
We have eyes at all stages of development. We have complex human eyes, even more complex bird eyes, the pinhole camera like eyes of the nautilis, and the simple, photo senstative cells of flatworms.

We have multiple observed cases of evolution, the best example being that of uni cell yeast becoming a multi cell organism.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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How did creatures with eyes but no brain think?
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They didn’t. The eyes would be like those of flatworms or other very basic animals; used for seeing light and dark. One does not need a brain to use eyes or eyes to use a brain.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
I mean look at insects and arachnids, they have complex eyes, but they have a ganglia instead of a brain, much more basic too.
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They didn’t. The eyes would be like those of flatworms or other very basic animals; used for seeing light and dark. One does not need a brain to use eyes or eyes to use a brain.
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huh
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Flatworm eyes can only really see ligh and dark. Their eyes are very basic, but they still do the job they need to do, without the need for a real brain or complex eyes.
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Flatworm eyes can only really see ligh and dark. Their eyes are very basic, but they still do the job they need to do, without the need for a real brain or complex eyes.
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What do their eyes connect to?
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The eyes are surrounded by its ganglia.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
Why do you have genes for a tail?
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Because genes for a tail are the living proof of the process evolution and living proof of the counter process of devolution at work!
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Yep that proves it, no fossil trail of something with a tail turning into a human needed, that never worked out anyway and requiring such scientific evidence should be considered heresy.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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What 'mechanism' 'allows' for 'development' of 'even more complex systems'?

Can you just not smell your own shit or does this all seem rational to you?
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The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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What 'mechanism' 'allows' for 'development' of 'even more complex systems'?

Can you just not smell your own shit or does this all seem rational to you?
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Being that the brain is the most complex mechanism in the universe one might believe it required deliberate intelligent, knowledgeable, design, assembly, and operation. However not so, I often see dirt clods evolving into living brains especially when there's rain and lightening striking them with a billion volts. WHOOOOOA there's one now, they're like the missing links, you just gotta know where to spot them hiding in the bushes.
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Mutations....it’s not hard to see how brains got more complex. Just go read a paper or journal on he evolution of the brain.
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Mutations....it’s not hard to see how brains got more complex. Just go read a paper or journal on he evolution of the brain.
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How about a video on the wonder of brain mutation?

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How many times do I have to say that both bad and good mutations can happen. Not all mutations are bad, and not all mutations are good.
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How many times do I have to say that both bad and good mutations can happen. Not all mutations are bad, and not all mutations are good.
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The wonder of mutation.

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Multi-cell yeast and the ccr delta 32 mutation in humans are both benifical mutations.
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Multi-cell yeast and the ccr delta 32 mutation in humans are both benifical mutations.
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And here I was thinking a great bio-molecular, scientific intelligence created the human brain when it was yeast all along.
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The yeast wasn’t in any way related to humans. The ccr 32 mutation however...
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The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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How did creatures with eyes but no brain think?
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You tell us! Creatures with no brains are called religious.
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The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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How did creatures with eyes but no brain think?
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You tell us! Creatures with no brains are called religious.
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They don't need one, they're saved, could get beamed up any second.
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Re: Want to see the result of viruses causing cell mutation, as in Ebola, Sci-fy Cult of evolution?
The brain evolved after the first “eyes.” It simply allowed for the development of even more complex eyes. Most insects don’t have a brain, yet they still have eyes.
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How did creatures with eyes but no brain think?
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You tell us! Creatures with no brains are called religious.
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They don't need one, they're saved, could get beamed up any second.
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Thank you!