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SPACEX FRAUD and COLLUSION WITH YOUTUBE/GOOGLE Since they allowed IT

 
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Awww, you mad bro? I filmed it myself, it's real, you're just going to have to get over it.
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You filmed some more grainy dots in low earth orbit. Congrats
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848

Actually I tracked the rocket from launch, and then in deep space, and I found it again today with an orbit computed from my own data as well as others' observations, independent of NASA and SpaceX. It's there.
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It's not in low earth orbit. It's already over 5 times farther than the moon.
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Again with a grainy dot. Congrats on wasting your life defending lies.
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Doesn't matter if it's grainy or not. Congrats on failing to understand basic physics and orbits. My data correctly predicted where it would be days later, and it shows that it launched from Florida at the time the Falcon Heavy launch occurred. Believe it or not, the math and data matter, the aesthetics do not.
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Great job Astromud congrats for the hard work CGI,really

awsome indeed!!!
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Prove it's CGI. Oh, you can't, because you're a pathetic piece of shit loser who doesn't amount to anything. So you can fuck right off.
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You filmed some more grainy dots in low earth orbit. Congrats
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848

Actually I tracked the rocket from launch, and then in deep space, and I found it again today with an orbit computed from my own data as well as others' observations, independent of NASA and SpaceX. It's there.
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
It's not in low earth orbit. It's already over 5 times farther than the moon.
[link to projectpluto.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Again with a grainy dot. Congrats on wasting your life defending lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848


Doesn't matter if it's grainy or not. Congrats on failing to understand basic physics and orbits. My data correctly predicted where it would be days later, and it shows that it launched from Florida at the time the Falcon Heavy launch occurred. Believe it or not, the math and data matter, the aesthetics do not.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


It matters because that is all you have.

Grainy dots and numbers, and an arrogance to say this is proof of anything.

Spend more time with your family rather than your computer and telescope.
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Great job Astromud congrats for the hard work CGI,really

awsome indeed!!!
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Prove it's CGI. Oh, you can't, because you're a pathetic piece of shit loser who doesn't amount to anything. So you can fuck right off.
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Spend more time with your family rather than acting like a child on your computer.
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Here we go with mods deleting posts that have no vulgarity. I wonder why
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Actually I tracked the rocket from launch, and then in deep space, and I found it again today with an orbit computed from my own data as well as others' observations, independent of NASA and SpaceX. It's there.
[link to h.dropcanvas.com]
It's not in low earth orbit. It's already over 5 times farther than the moon.
[link to projectpluto.com (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Again with a grainy dot. Congrats on wasting your life defending lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848


Doesn't matter if it's grainy or not. Congrats on failing to understand basic physics and orbits. My data correctly predicted where it would be days later, and it shows that it launched from Florida at the time the Falcon Heavy launch occurred. Believe it or not, the math and data matter, the aesthetics do not.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


It matters because that is all you have.

Grainy dots and numbers, and an arrogance to say this is proof of anything.

Spend more time with your family rather than your computer and telescope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75409848


It carries far more weight than anything you have, which right now is literally nothing but insults against my data. It does not matter that it's grainy, it is undeniably there and it is undeniably the second stage of the Falcon Heavy. Go back to school and don't drop out of your math classes this time.
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Here we go with mods deleting posts that have no vulgarity. I wonder why
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Because of false accusations of fakery. Want to join them? Just say the word.
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I saw some dude make himself disappear. It was filmed live so it has to be real and not a majic trick.

I have no doubt SpaceX shot a rocket into the sky. They might have even developed the technology to land those boosters. However, they did not launch a Tesla car or anything else into "space". Of that I am certain.
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They might have even developed the technology to land those boosters.
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So you admit all those who claimed the landings were faked for years now had no fucking clue what they were talking about. Thanks. Bet you were one of them.
However, they did not launch a Tesla car or anything else into "space". Of that I am certain.
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And of that you are wrong.

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They might have even developed the technology to land those boosters.
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So you admit all those who claimed the landings were faked for years now had no fucking clue what they were talking about. Thanks. Bet you were one of them.
However, they did not launch a Tesla car or anything else into "space". Of that I am certain.
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And of that you are wrong.

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That's great. You can believe whatever you want to. That's not what this thread is about though. Yes or no: Do you believe SpaceX should be allowed to change the content of a live streamed video and still present it as unedited? Read up about Youtube's live stream rules. Why is SpaceX, as a private entity, allowed to do things on Youtube that no one else is permitted to do?
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They might have even developed the technology to land those boosters.
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So you admit all those who claimed the landings were faked for years now had no fucking clue what they were talking about. Thanks. Bet you were one of them.
However, they did not launch a Tesla car or anything else into "space". Of that I am certain.
 Quoting: AC

And of that you are wrong.

 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


That's great. You can believe whatever you want to. That's not what this thread is about though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact, and it is a verifiable fact that the launch was real and the second stage was ejected from earth orbit.
Yes or no: Do you believe SpaceX should be allowed to change the content of a live streamed video and still present it as unedited?
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It doesn't matter to me because I didn't start with the assumption that I should trust or rely on the SpaceX webcast as the ultimate evidence of their launches in the first place. I short circuit that entire argument by filming it myself, both during the launch and after. Fun fact, I tracked the entire flight of the booster that they didn't initially show, so if they were doing it to hide something I would have captured it. Like I captured the bird that probably went splat against the booster they weren't initially showing (not that they could have anticipated that). If anything I welcome YouTube letting them edit their webcast to correct the video (albeit poorly, you can totally see it pasted over the original when they first start showing it). It means people will be forced to realize there's more evidence for it totally independent of SpaceX and maybe wake them up to independent observation. Maybe, just maybe, some will even be inspired to do what I do and track it themselves.
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Hey Astro, do you think propulsion using the Lorrentz force will ever be used for space travel?
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They might have even developed the technology to land those boosters.
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So you admit all those who claimed the landings were faked for years now had no fucking clue what they were talking about. Thanks. Bet you were one of them.
However, they did not launch a Tesla car or anything else into "space". Of that I am certain.
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And of that you are wrong.

 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


That's great. You can believe whatever you want to. That's not what this thread is about though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact, and it is a verifiable fact that the launch was real and the second stage was ejected from earth orbit.
Yes or no: Do you believe SpaceX should be allowed to change the content of a live streamed video and still present it as unedited?
 Quoting: AC

It doesn't matter to me because I didn't start with the assumption that I should trust or rely on the SpaceX webcast as the ultimate evidence of their launches in the first place. I short circuit that entire argument by filming it myself, both during the launch and after. Fun fact, I tracked the entire flight of the booster that they didn't initially show, so if they were doing it to hide something I would have captured it. Like I captured the bird that probably went splat against the booster they weren't initially showing (not that they could have anticipated that). If anything I welcome YouTube letting them edit their webcast to correct the video (albeit poorly, you can totally see it pasted over the original when they first start showing it). It means people will be forced to realize there's more evidence for it totally independent of SpaceX and maybe wake them up to independent observation. Maybe, just maybe, some will even be inspired to do what I do and track it themselves.
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But why is SpaceX allowed to do things to a live stream on Youtube that no one else is allowed to do?
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Here we go with mods deleting posts that have no vulgarity. I wonder why
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I don't think it is necessarily bad to delete posts that are stupid to the point of insanity.

So you doubt that Astro's video is legit, but you can only refute it with assumptions based on your extremely limited understanding.

You are like a child that tries to explain how something works that is beyond their comprehension.

The sad thing is that you are adults and lack the intelligence to objectively think and investigate. Instead, you just watch YouTube videos from like minded people, which are based on assumptions, and then you happily continue to make your own assumptions based on those videos.

Then you come here and accuse Astro, the only person who has responded with actual evidence, of faking videos?

You are honestly stupid and, unfortunately for you, you are too stupid to realise it.
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what specifically did SpaceX supposedly edit/change in the video content ?
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First, the mission was a total failure.

The second stage crashed and didn't land. FAIL

They meant to shoot the "car" into an orbit around Mars and failed - FAIL

The entire mission was supposed to be able to re-use the sections. That was a fail.
And to prove they could send something towards Mars. They fucked that up to.
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poor astro, he has no choice but to believe..imagine that, you invest your whole life into something then have someone tell you you wasted your entire life believing in a complete lie..he has no choice but to believe, if his reality is shattered he pretty much has nothing to live for
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You are right. That is how the CIA made the Unabomber and he is already going off. Let's just humor him and pretend it's real. For our own safety.
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poor astro, he has no choice but to believe..imagine that, you invest your whole life into something then have someone tell you you wasted your entire life believing in a complete lie..he has no choice but to believe, if his reality is shattered he pretty much has nothing to live for
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I was there dumbass, it's not a matter of "belief," I saw it happen first hand. Including and especially the booster they didn't show. Dipshits like you are too cowardly to put your money where you mouth is to show up and prove it fake in person. If I was scared of my reality being shattered, the LAST thing I would do is write software for a giant telescope to prove whether or not it was really happening, from start to finish uninterrupted. Instead I would do like you cowards do and just hide behind my keyboard and make videos without ever going in person.
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The OP has to calm down. We've all been tricked and deceived for so long, we're numb to reality now.
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I have a question..

Is that roadster going past the moon or near it and will they be able to live feed it?
Im not really up to date on all the info but it appears they are no longer live streaming the views from that car in space? I was hoping it would pass close to the moon so we could see it..
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SpaceX = Real

Apollo moon landings, not so much.
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Nice try.
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First, the mission was a total failure.

The second stage crashed and didn't land. FAIL

They meant to shoot the "car" into an orbit around Mars and failed - FAIL

The entire mission was supposed to be able to re-use the sections. That was a fail.
And to prove they could send something towards Mars. They fucked that up to.
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I don't remember seeing a Mars orbit as a mission goal...
They got the strap on boosters back, which will be refurbished.

...boy, I can only imagine your sour face during the 50s when we were "learning" how to do rockets. Fact is, you often learn more from failures than successes...and every space program out there, government or civilian, knows this very well.

SpaceX will continue doing rockets, celebrate their successes and learning from their failures...kinda like life itself.
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Fake. The joke is on the gullibility of humans.
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First, the mission was a total failure.

The second stage crashed and didn't land. FAIL

They meant to shoot the "car" into an orbit around Mars and failed - FAIL

The entire mission was supposed to be able to re-use the sections. That was a fail.
And to prove they could send something towards Mars. They fucked that up to.
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I don't remember seeing a Mars orbit as a mission goal...
They got the strap on boosters back, which will be refurbished.

...boy, I can only imagine your sour face during the 50s when we were "learning" how to do rockets. Fact is, you often learn more from failures than successes...and every space program out there, government or civilian, knows this very well.

SpaceX will continue doing rockets, celebrate their successes and learning from their failures...kinda like life itself.
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You are about to get a sour puss. See how misinformed you are tarddit.

But the centre booster, which was to land on the floating platform off the coast, missed its target and slammed into the ocean at 500 km/h, with shrapnel taking out the cameras and damaging the platform.

As well, the payload Musk's own cherry red Tesla Roadster complete with a mannequin astronaut overshot its orbit.

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So you admit all those who claimed the landings were faked for years now had no fucking clue what they were talking about. Thanks. Bet you were one of them.
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And of that you are wrong.

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That's great. You can believe whatever you want to. That's not what this thread is about though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact, and it is a verifiable fact that the launch was real and the second stage was ejected from earth orbit.
Yes or no: Do you believe SpaceX should be allowed to change the content of a live streamed video and still present it as unedited?
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It doesn't matter to me because I didn't start with the assumption that I should trust or rely on the SpaceX webcast as the ultimate evidence of their launches in the first place. I short circuit that entire argument by filming it myself, both during the launch and after. Fun fact, I tracked the entire flight of the booster that they didn't initially show, so if they were doing it to hide something I would have captured it. Like I captured the bird that probably went splat against the booster they weren't initially showing (not that they could have anticipated that). If anything I welcome YouTube letting them edit their webcast to correct the video (albeit poorly, you can totally see it pasted over the original when they first start showing it). It means people will be forced to realize there's more evidence for it totally independent of SpaceX and maybe wake them up to independent observation. Maybe, just maybe, some will even be inspired to do what I do and track it themselves.
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But why is SpaceX allowed to do things to a live stream on Youtube that no one else is allowed to do?
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I don't care. I'm not relying on the SpaceX footage at all. They could come right out on their webcast and claim that the launch was faked and it wouldn't change the fact that it is real and that I have seen it and tracked it myself both during the launch and after the launch in space. What they say and do during that webcast has no bearing on my independent observations.
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OP's video is bullshit.

First thing he does is call out smarter everyday for an error that he himself noted in the description of his video BEFORE this cocksuckers video was even posted.
Then he asks Astro useless questions that wouldn't prove shit even if answered.
Then OP posts this shit and doesn't even know that Astro IS Astronomy Live......
For fucks sake.
The video in the OP compares spacex to NASA which was dumb as hell considering spacex ISNT GOVERNMENT FUNDED.
It get subsidies from the government but what fucking business doesn't??!

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CEO of youtube Susan Wojcicki is a 100% TRANNIE DECEIVER!

Praise Jesus for the Mag Bitter Truth Channel!

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That's great. You can believe whatever you want to. That's not what this thread is about though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873

It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact, and it is a verifiable fact that the launch was real and the second stage was ejected from earth orbit.
Yes or no: Do you believe SpaceX should be allowed to change the content of a live streamed video and still present it as unedited?
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It doesn't matter to me because I didn't start with the assumption that I should trust or rely on the SpaceX webcast as the ultimate evidence of their launches in the first place. I short circuit that entire argument by filming it myself, both during the launch and after. Fun fact, I tracked the entire flight of the booster that they didn't initially show, so if they were doing it to hide something I would have captured it. Like I captured the bird that probably went splat against the booster they weren't initially showing (not that they could have anticipated that). If anything I welcome YouTube letting them edit their webcast to correct the video (albeit poorly, you can totally see it pasted over the original when they first start showing it). It means people will be forced to realize there's more evidence for it totally independent of SpaceX and maybe wake them up to independent observation. Maybe, just maybe, some will even be inspired to do what I do and track it themselves.
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But why is SpaceX allowed to do things to a live stream on Youtube that no one else is allowed to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873


I don't care. I'm not relying on the SpaceX footage at all. They could come right out on their webcast and claim that the launch was faked and it wouldn't change the fact that it is real and that I have seen it and tracked it myself both during the launch and after the launch in space. What they say and do during that webcast has no bearing on my independent observations.
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Can you just answer the question? This isn't about you, or your footage, your independent observations, or your tracking software. I know it's hard to comprehend, but this isn't about you. It's about Spacex being allowed by youtube to do something that no one else is allowed to do.
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It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact, and it is a verifiable fact that the launch was real and the second stage was ejected from earth orbit.
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It doesn't matter to me because I didn't start with the assumption that I should trust or rely on the SpaceX webcast as the ultimate evidence of their launches in the first place. I short circuit that entire argument by filming it myself, both during the launch and after. Fun fact, I tracked the entire flight of the booster that they didn't initially show, so if they were doing it to hide something I would have captured it. Like I captured the bird that probably went splat against the booster they weren't initially showing (not that they could have anticipated that). If anything I welcome YouTube letting them edit their webcast to correct the video (albeit poorly, you can totally see it pasted over the original when they first start showing it). It means people will be forced to realize there's more evidence for it totally independent of SpaceX and maybe wake them up to independent observation. Maybe, just maybe, some will even be inspired to do what I do and track it themselves.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


But why is SpaceX allowed to do things to a live stream on Youtube that no one else is allowed to do?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75901873


I don't care. I'm not relying on the SpaceX footage at all. They could come right out on their webcast and claim that the launch was faked and it wouldn't change the fact that it is real and that I have seen it and tracked it myself both during the launch and after the launch in space. What they say and do during that webcast has no bearing on my independent observations.
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Can you just answer the question? This isn't about you, or your footage, your independent observations, or your tracking software. I know it's hard to comprehend, but this isn't about you.
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"SPACEX FRAUD and COLLUSION WITH YOUTUBE/GOOGLE Since they allowed IT"
If it's fraud there would have to be some substance to the fraud, so yes, my footage comes into play whether you like it or not. Especially since my footage covers the entire flight of the booster that they initially did not show (that just boils you up, doesn't it), so if there was any fraud to be had there it must necessarily show up in my footage as well, whatever it is.

I answered the question, the answer is I don't care. I mean it, I don't care if they're allowed to reinsert footage into their livestream recording and I'm not. I'd personally rather NOT be able to do that, to avoid claims that I am doing it to hide shit, but if SpaceX wants to do that and YouTube lets them, I don't care. That's exactly why I go to such lengths to provide independent verification completely separate from SpaceX.

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fucking armchair "detectives" ( if you can even call them that !) who's only evidence space x faked it is youtube videos !! ROFL !

FFS - why even bother with these people !
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fucking armchair "detectives" ( if you can even call them that !) who's only evidence space x faked it is youtube videos !! ROFL !

FFS - why even bother with these people !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72187181


It's cathartic, especially for those of us who film these events and then have to deal with an onslaught of a thousand nasty messages ranging from accusations that we're frauds, we faked it, to flat out threats. No, there's no convincing these people, but it can relieve stress to beat them over the head with the evidence anyway.
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